Re: Supreme Court: Home May Be Seized

2005-06-29 Thread Deborah Harrell
 Gary Nunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is more than just a little disturbing to
 me. The abuses of Eminent Domain continue..
 
 
 Homes may be 'taken' for private projects
 Justices: Local governments can give OK if it's for
 public good
 
 Excerpts from the article...
 
 WASHINGTON - The Supreme Court on Thursday ruled
 that local governments may
 seize people's homes and businesses - even against
 their will - for private economic development.
snip 
 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8331097/

This is *appalling* - I thought part of the reason the
Founding Fathers wanted to break from GB was
'unreasonable seizure'?  Not only the poor, but the
middle-class will have no recourse.

Debbi
Time To Write Our Congressfolk Maru

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Re: Supreme Court: Home May Be Seized

2005-06-29 Thread Ronn!Blankenship

At 01:53 PM Wednesday 6/29/2005, Deborah Harrell wrote:

 Gary Nunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is more than just a little disturbing to
 me. The abuses of Eminent Domain continue..


 Homes may be 'taken' for private projects
 Justices: Local governments can give OK if it's for
 public good

 Excerpts from the article...

 WASHINGTON - The Supreme Court on Thursday ruled
 that local governments may
 seize people's homes and businesses - even against
 their will - for private economic development.
snip
 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8331097/

This is *appalling* - I thought part of the reason the
Founding Fathers wanted to break from GB was
'unreasonable seizure'?  Not only the poor, but the
middle-class will have no recourse.

Debbi
Time To Write Our Congressfolk Maru




If you want your efforts to actually have a chance to accomplish anything, 
though, that needs to read:



Time To Write Our Congressfolk »—› A Check ‹—« Maru


and make sure it's for a substantially bigger amount than the check that 
Wal-Mart writes to your local officials to get them to give them your 
property . . .




Money Makes The World Go 'Round Maru


-- Ronn!  :)

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Re: Supreme Court: Home May Be Seized

2005-06-28 Thread Gary Denton
On 6/24/05, Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Gary Nunn wrote:
 This is more than just a little disturbing to me. The abuses of
 Eminent Domain continue..Homes may be 'taken' for private projects
 Justices: Local governments can give OK if it's for public good
 
 This is one of the most hideous decisions I've seen in a long time.  Anyone 
 who thinks this decision will not disproportionately affect the lower classes 
 is kidding himself.  Does anyone *really* believe that some guy with a $1 
 million home is going to lose it to make way for a mall?  What a crappy way 
 to start the day today.
 
 Second worst part?  Agreeing with Scalia and Thomas.  :-P
 
Bad, bad, decision.  Only hope is this had a lot of publicity and
nearly everyone thinks it is bad.

I also find myself agreeing with old-style conservatives on some things.

--
Gary Denton
http://www.apollocon.org  June 24-26

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Re: Supreme Court: Home May Be Seized

2005-06-24 Thread PAT MATHEWS

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


In a message dated 6/23/2005 8:41:02 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Any  property may now be taken for the benefit of another private party, 
but

the  fallout from this decision will not be random, O'Connor  wrote


Oh hell yes.

I don't think the law on civic improvements has changed either. In Phoenix  
a

big developer put up a 20 story tower in what was a residential area. The
homes on the other side of the street had to pay for a part of the new 
sewer
that had to be put in. Payment was based upon property frontage to the 
street.

Ten homes had to pay half of what was needed for 400 offices.

So it goes. So it goes.



I know. I got chapter and verse on You [EMAIL PROTECTED] LIBERALS! did this on the 
Fourth Turning website, along with a smarmy editorial in the New York Times 
online and and a more thoughtful but wrongheaded one in the Washington Lost 
online. I have written to them, the Albuquerque Journal, my three 
Congresscritters, my state legislators, and my city councilman protesting 
this decision, and in the case of the politicians, asking for laws banning 
the taking of private property for nongovernmental purposes. As I said to 
one of them, now my home is my home only until Megalomart wants it. Cheap.


It's enough to send someone running back to Ayn Rand who outgrew her 20 
years ago. This is straight out of Atlas Shrugged.


Pat, disgusted


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RE: Supreme Court: Home May Be Seized

2005-06-24 Thread Jim Sharkey

Gary Nunn wrote:
This is more than just a little disturbing to me. The abuses of 
Eminent Domain continue..Homes may be 'taken' for private projects
Justices: Local governments can give OK if it's for public good

This is one of the most hideous decisions I've seen in a long time.  Anyone who 
thinks this decision will not disproportionately affect the lower classes is 
kidding himself.  Does anyone *really* believe that some guy with a $1 million 
home is going to lose it to make way for a mall?  What a crappy way to start 
the day today.

Second worst part?  Agreeing with Scalia and Thomas.  :-P

Jim

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Supreme Court: Home May Be Seized

2005-06-23 Thread Gary Nunn

This is more than just a little disturbing to me. The abuses of Eminent
Domain continue..


Homes may be 'taken' for private projects
Justices: Local governments can give OK if it's for public good

Excerpts from the article...

WASHINGTON - The Supreme Court on Thursday ruled that local governments may
seize people's homes and businesses - even against their will - for private
economic development.

It was a decision fraught with huge implications for a country with many
areas, particularly the rapidly growing urban and suburban areas, facing
countervailing pressures of development and property ownership rights.

As a result, cities now have wide power to bulldoze residences for projects
such as shopping malls and hotel complexes in order to generate tax revenue.

The 5-4 ruling - assailed by dissenting Justice Sandra Day O'Connor as
handing disproportionate influence and power to the well-heeled -
represented a defeat for some Connecticut residents whose homes are slated
for destruction to make room for an office complex. 

O'Connor, who has been a key swing vote on many cases before the court,
issued a stinging dissent. She argued that cities should not have unlimited
authority to uproot families, even if they are provided compensation, simply
to accommodate wealthy developers.

Any property may now be taken for the benefit of another private party, but
the fallout from this decision will not be random, O'Connor wrote. The
beneficiaries are likely to be those citizens with disproportionate
influence and power in the political process, including large corporations
and development firms. 

Complete article...
 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8331097/

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Re: Supreme Court: Home May Be Seized

2005-06-23 Thread Medievalbk
 
In a message dated 6/23/2005 8:41:02 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Any  property may now be taken for the benefit of another private party, but
the  fallout from this decision will not be random, O'Connor  wrote


Oh hell yes.
 
I don't think the law on civic improvements has changed either. In Phoenix  a 
big developer put up a 20 story tower in what was a residential area. The  
homes on the other side of the street had to pay for a part of the new sewer  
that had to be put in. Payment was based upon property frontage to the street.  
Ten homes had to pay half of what was needed for 400 offices.
 
So it goes. So it goes.
 
 
 
William  Taylor
-
Good words on page I do forbear
Not pulled  out from my derriere.
Blest be the man who says, 'Writes well.'
And cursed  be he that makes me spell.
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