Re: Technical problem, or something far worse? :o(

2004-11-09 Thread Richard Baker
Nick said: > We have never "covertly moderated" anyone on this list, nor do I > plan to do so. That's all I wanted to know. Thanks. Rich ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Technical problem, or something far worse? :o(

2004-11-09 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 9, 2004, at 7:32 AM, Horn, John wrote: Behalf Of Alberto Monteiro If I were a .nler and I wanted to break into the list to cause trouble, I would _never_ use a .nl address. There are so many other free emailiers, like yahoo, hotmail, etc. Alberto has a point. I've suffered from the paranoia

Re: Technical problem, or something far worse? :o(

2004-11-09 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Horn, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 9:32 AM Subject: RE: Technical problem, or something far worse? :o( >Alberto has a point. I've suffered

RE: Technical problem, or something far worse? :o(

2004-11-09 Thread Horn, John
> Behalf Of Alberto Monteiro > > Robert Seeberger wrote: > > > > In Sonja's case, well she and anyone > > who has an .nl address suffers fallout from one certain persons bad > > behavior and frequent efforts to break into the list. > > > If I were a .nler and I wanted to break into the list to

Re: Technical problem, or something far worse? :o(

2004-11-09 Thread Nick Arnett
Richard Baker wrote: I don't recall Sonja ever saying anything that might justify her messages being moderated for any reason other than having subscribed a new address. Her *address* was moderated briefly because, as she mentioned in her next message, the list suddenly started receiving spam wit

Re: Technical problem, or something far worse? :o(

2004-11-09 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Robert Seeberger wrote: > > In Sonja's case, well she and anyone > who has an .nl address suffers fallout from one certain persons bad > behavior and frequent efforts to break into the list. > If I were a .nler and I wanted to break into the list to cause trouble, I would _never_ use a .nl addr

Re: Technical problem, or something far worse? :o(

2004-11-09 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sonja said: Shees indeed. I'm still wondering what all this gall's got to do with MY complaint. I'm my own person and I think I've earned my stripes on this list for being an earnest, concerned and carefull poster. Thus this, your behaviour towards _me_ is totally unwarr

Re: Technical problem, or something far worse? :o(

2004-11-09 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Richard Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 4:45 AM Subject: Re: Technical problem, or something far worse? :o( > Sonja said: > > > Shees inde

Re: Technical problem, or something far worse? :o(

2004-11-09 Thread Richard Baker
Sonja said: > Shees indeed. I'm still wondering what all this gall's got to do > with MY complaint. I'm my own person and I think I've earned my > stripes on this list for being an earnest, concerned and carefull > poster. Thus this, your behaviour towards _me_ is totally > unwarrented and complet

Re: Technical problem, or something far worse? :o(

2004-11-09 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Sorry about the time lapse in the thread, but I had to seriously cool off before I did something rash. Nick Arnett wrote: Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: [Various complaints snipped.] From the e-mail that *everyone* receives when they subscribe: "Your first messages will be moderated. If you d

Re: Technical problem, or something far worse?

2004-10-27 Thread JDG
At 09:35 PM 10/27/2004 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >At 27-10-04 13:24, Erik Reuter wrote: > >>On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 10:35:38PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> > transparency and accountability. >> >>So, what's your name and and home address? > >Considering the inherent unsafety of the In

Re: Technical problem, or something far worse?

2004-10-27 Thread Erik Reuter
On Wed, Oct 27, 2004 at 09:35:14PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > At 27-10-04 13:24, Erik Reuter wrote: > > >On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 10:35:38PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> transparency and accountability. > > > >So, what's your name and and home address? > > Considering the inhere

Re: Technical problem, or something far worse?

2004-10-27 Thread brin-l
At 27-10-04 13:24, Erik Reuter wrote: On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 10:35:38PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > transparency and accountability. So, what's your name and and home address? Considering the inherent unsafety of the Internet, I prefer to keep my personal information personal. But you may

Re: Technical problem, or something far worse?

2004-10-27 Thread Nick Arnett
Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: [Various complaints snipped.] From the e-mail that *everyone* receives when they subscribe: "Your first messages will be moderated. If you do not see your message appear on the list, give it some time, and if it still hasn't appeared in a few hours, e-mail the a

Re: Technical problem, or something far worse?

2004-10-27 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Following up on myself -- these last two messages really came through fast! So it is not always six hours... That's good news. Ruben ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l That's because they aren't moderated an

Re: Technical problem, or something far worse?

2004-10-26 Thread Julia Thompson
Ruben Krasnopolsky wrote: > > Following up on myself -- these last two > messages really came through fast! > So it is not always six hours... > > That's good news. New subscriber posts are moderated initially anyway. Depending on when you post and when moderators are available to vet posts, it

Technical problem, or something far worse?

2004-10-26 Thread Ruben Krasnopolsky
Following up on myself -- these last two messages really came through fast! So it is not always six hours... That's good news. Ruben ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Technical problem, or something far worse?

2004-10-26 Thread Nick Arnett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have come to notice that several of the messages I contributed to this list over the past few days still haven't arrived. Is there a technical problem I should look into, or are the local powers-that-be involved in the evil act of censoring? No technical problems. If i

Technical problem, or something far worse?

2004-10-26 Thread Ruben Krasnopolsky
No message of mine has been lost, but I'm getting a delay of around six hours or so between sending email to the list and seeing it. Maybe you can see that delay in the message headers. I don't know if this delay is a technical problem or it is the expected functioning of the list, maybe part of a

Re: Technical problem, or something far worse?

2004-10-26 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 10:35:38PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > transparency and accountability. So, what's your name and and home address? -- Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Technical problem, or something far worse?

2004-10-26 Thread brin-l
I have come to notice that several of the messages I contributed to this list over the past few days still haven't arrived. Is there a technical problem I should look into, or are the local powers-that-be involved in the evil act of censoring? If it's the former, it's a challenge. If it's the l