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> pencimen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Deborah wrote > > I recently finished _Inversion_, which I don't > think > > is a Culture tale, but I found it compelling. > Oh, but it is! 8^) > > Doug > Prime Directive? Maru Charlie also corrected me; that was only my second Banks read, so at least I'm 'getting' his style, if not the Culture gist... I have, however, sworn off S. Donaldson, as he *really* has some issues with women and torture and helplessness...phphphth! I need only read a bit of news to get the same in reality. >:/ Did I mention a book _Reliant_ this summer past? Now I can't recall the author, but I enjoyed the outcast-become-heroic (heroinec?) exploration. Debbi who recently finished _The Golden Compass_ since the fanatics labeled it 'evil' (I don't think so!) Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On 20/11/2007, at 9:11 AM, Deborah Harrell wrote: >> Doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Consider Phlebus is my favorite Banks, but I enjoyed >> all of the culture novels. > > I recently finished _Inversion_, which I don't think > is a Culture tale, Yes it is. :-) Charlie. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Deborah wrote > I recently finished _Inversion_, which I don't think > is a Culture tale, but I found it compelling. Oh, but it is! 8^) Doug Prime Directive? Maru ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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> Doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Consider Phlebus is my favorite Banks, but I enjoyed > all of the culture novels. I recently finished _Inversion_, which I don't think is a Culture tale, but I found it compelling. Although he (Banks) might consider seeing someone about his preoccupation with torture... Debbi Umbrella Raised And Braced Maru;) Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Brin-L FAQ (was: Uplift at Yellowstone)
On 11/12/2007 8:08:57 PM, Nick Arnett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Nov 12, 2007 2:20 PM, Robert Seeberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > I occurs to me to wonder if Dr Brin got (is getting) messages in > > this > > thread. > > > I don't think so. The subject has to have "Brin:" at the beginning. > Heh! I could have sworn it did. xponent Tricky Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Brin-L FAQ (was: Uplift at Yellowstone)
On Nov 12, 2007 2:20 PM, Robert Seeberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I occurs to me to wonder if Dr Brin got (is getting) messages in this > thread. I don't think so. The subject has to have "Brin:" at the beginning. Nick -- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Messages: 408-904-7198 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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From: Ronn! Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]At 11:21 AM Monday 11/12/2007, Julia Thompson wrote: ]>On Mon, 12 Nov 2007, Horn, John wrote: ]> ]> >> Dave Land wrote ]> >> ]> >> I was about to reply with a snarky comment about how the ]> >> Discovery Channel will no doubt produce a fear-mongering ]> >> video about the dangers of the Supervolcano in Yellowstone, ]> >> but the Discovery Channel beat me to it ]> > ]> > There was a made for TV (cable?) movie called "Supervolcano" if I recall ]> > correctly a few years ago about the eruption of caldera at Yellowstone. ]> > My wife and I watched it but I'm not sure why. Not horrible but not ]> > great either. ]> > ]> > Ah, here it is: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0419372/ ]> > ]> > - jmh ]> ]>I wanted to watch that, but it came on at an inconvenient time for me and ]>we didn't have DVR yet. Is it available on DVD? If so, is it worth the ]>effort to get my hands on the DVD? Is there any way for me to put any ]>more questions in this paragraph without it being ridiculous? And can ]>anyone write up a laymen's explanation comparing Cymbalta to Zoloft, or ]>will I be stuck doing that myself later today? ]Someone may wonder if the last question reflects an urgent personal ]need in light of the question which precedes it . . . :P ]Chill Maru ]-- Ronn! :) I'm worried that the comparison will end up looking something like the Pepsi Challenge. -- Matt ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2007, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: > At 11:21 AM Monday 11/12/2007, Julia Thompson wrote: > > >> I wanted to watch that, but it came on at an inconvenient time for me and >> we didn't have DVR yet. Is it available on DVD? If so, is it worth the >> effort to get my hands on the DVD? Is there any way for me to put any >> more questions in this paragraph without it being ridiculous? And can >> anyone write up a laymen's explanation comparing Cymbalta to Zoloft, or >> will I be stuck doing that myself later today? > > > > Someone may wonder if the last question reflects an urgent personal > need in light of the question which precedes it . . . :P > > > Chill Maru Someone else may need the info. So far, no one has said, "Hey, Julia, yeah, I want that info!" But someone could. (Or someone might have, and I just haven't checked that e-mail account. And am contemplating NOT doing so this evening.) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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At 11:21 AM Monday 11/12/2007, Julia Thompson wrote: >On Mon, 12 Nov 2007, Horn, John wrote: > > >> Dave Land wrote > >> > >> I was about to reply with a snarky comment about how the > >> Discovery Channel will no doubt produce a fear-mongering > >> video about the dangers of the Supervolcano in Yellowstone, > >> but the Discovery Channel beat me to it > > > > There was a made for TV (cable?) movie called "Supervolcano" if I recall > > correctly a few years ago about the eruption of caldera at Yellowstone. > > My wife and I watched it but I'm not sure why. Not horrible but not > > great either. > > > > Ah, here it is: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0419372/ > > > > - jmh > >I wanted to watch that, but it came on at an inconvenient time for me and >we didn't have DVR yet. Is it available on DVD? If so, is it worth the >effort to get my hands on the DVD? Is there any way for me to put any >more questions in this paragraph without it being ridiculous? And can >anyone write up a laymen's explanation comparing Cymbalta to Zoloft, or >will I be stuck doing that myself later today? Someone may wonder if the last question reflects an urgent personal need in light of the question which precedes it . . . :P Chill Maru -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2007, Robert Seeberger wrote: > Well...if you just wait and keep your eyes open for it, it will > come back into rotation at some point. I've seen it and it is "fair to > good", but I don't think I'd spend money for it. > Now Cosmos or Connections, or Earth, I might spend some cash on, but > Supervolcano is basically Discovery/Science Channel pedestrian fare. > Stuff they come up with to fill air time. (Most of their programs fit > this description.) If it's available from some rental service, I'd probably go that route. We have SO spent money on Cosmos! (Or maybe my mother-in-law did, I'm a little fuzzy on who gave what that year.) Worth every penny. :) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Brin-L FAQ (was: Uplift at Yellowstone)
- Original Message - From: "Horn, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:51 AM Subject: Brin-L FAQ (was: Uplift at Yellowstone) >> Matt Grimaldi wrote >> >>> Lance A. Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> What is the fascination (mania? obsession?) with the word >>> "maru" on this list? >> >> This whole thing started because, for a time, there were a >> large number of brin-lers that also belonged to the list for >> fans of Ian Banks' Culture series. >> (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Culture) >> >> A feature of the books (I gather) is to name spaceships by >> their designation (GCU, ROU, and others, similar to the way >> that naval ships are organized into classes based on size, >> speed, and purpose) along with something apropos to the >> personality of the owner, mission, commander, or whatever >> (e.g.: ROU Nail in the coffin). >> >> The members of the Culture list would often put such a ship >> name in their signatures even when they were sending >> messages on Brin-L. >> This simply would not do :-), so we started using Maru >> designations instead. As to why that particular word, others >> have better explanations than I could give. > > I think we need to have a Brin-L FAQ and this would be the number > one > entry! > > Not that I'm volunteering or anything... > I occurs to me to wonder if Dr Brin got (is getting) messages in this thread. As for the Maru thing, it makes me feel like Dr Frankenstein (Young Frankenstein pronunciation). "It Lives!" xponent What Great Knockers! Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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- Original Message - From: "Dave Land" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 1:05 PM Subject: Re: Uplift at Yellowstone > On Nov 12, 2007, at 9:21 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: > >> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007, Horn, John wrote: >> >>>> Dave Land wrote >>>> >>>> I was about to reply with a snarky comment about how the >>>> Discovery Channel will no doubt produce a fear-mongering >>>> video about the dangers of the Supervolcano in Yellowstone, >>>> but the Discovery Channel beat me to it >>> >>> There was a made for TV (cable?) movie called "Supervolcano" if I >>> recall >>> correctly a few years ago about the eruption of caldera at >>> Yellowstone. >>> My wife and I watched it but I'm not sure why. Not horrible but >>> not >>> great either. >>> >>> Ah, here it is: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0419372/ >>> >> I wanted to watch that, but it came on at an inconvenient time for >> me and >> we didn't have DVR yet. Is it available on DVD? If so, is it >> worth the >> effort to get my hands on the DVD? Is there any way for me to put >> any >> more questions in this paragraph without it being ridiculous? And >> can >> anyone write up a laymen's explanation comparing Cymbalta to >> Zoloft, or >> will I be stuck doing that myself later today? (OK, the last one >> is >> unnecessary, I can do that one just fine.) > > You're going to have to figure out the whole Cymbalta/Zoloft thing > on > your own, but I can point you here for your first question: > > http://shopping.discovery.com/product-58069.html?endecaSID=116351158C33 > > You can buy the DVD from Discovery Channel. Bud from Virginia Beach > wrote (on the page above), ""Excellent. It was a real movie, not > just a > run-of-the-mill documentary." > Well...if you just wait and keep your eyes open for it, it will come back into rotation at some point. I've seen it and it is "fair to good", but I don't think I'd spend money for it. Now Cosmos or Connections, or Earth, I might spend some cash on, but Supervolcano is basically Discovery/Science Channel pedestrian fare. Stuff they come up with to fill air time. (Most of their programs fit this description.) xponent Where's The Real Science? Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On Nov 12, 2007, at 9:21 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: > On Mon, 12 Nov 2007, Horn, John wrote: > >>> Dave Land wrote >>> >>> I was about to reply with a snarky comment about how the >>> Discovery Channel will no doubt produce a fear-mongering >>> video about the dangers of the Supervolcano in Yellowstone, >>> but the Discovery Channel beat me to it >> >> There was a made for TV (cable?) movie called "Supervolcano" if I >> recall >> correctly a few years ago about the eruption of caldera at >> Yellowstone. >> My wife and I watched it but I'm not sure why. Not horrible but not >> great either. >> >> Ah, here it is: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0419372/ >> > I wanted to watch that, but it came on at an inconvenient time for > me and > we didn't have DVR yet. Is it available on DVD? If so, is it > worth the > effort to get my hands on the DVD? Is there any way for me to put any > more questions in this paragraph without it being ridiculous? And can > anyone write up a laymen's explanation comparing Cymbalta to > Zoloft, or > will I be stuck doing that myself later today? (OK, the last one is > unnecessary, I can do that one just fine.) You're going to have to figure out the whole Cymbalta/Zoloft thing on your own, but I can point you here for your first question: http://shopping.discovery.com/product-58069.html?endecaSID=116351158C33 You can buy the DVD from Discovery Channel. Bud from Virginia Beach wrote (on the page above), ""Excellent. It was a real movie, not just a run-of-the-mill documentary." Dave ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Uplift at Yellowstone
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007, Horn, John wrote: >> Dave Land wrote >> >> I was about to reply with a snarky comment about how the >> Discovery Channel will no doubt produce a fear-mongering >> video about the dangers of the Supervolcano in Yellowstone, >> but the Discovery Channel beat me to it > > There was a made for TV (cable?) movie called "Supervolcano" if I recall > correctly a few years ago about the eruption of caldera at Yellowstone. > My wife and I watched it but I'm not sure why. Not horrible but not > great either. > > Ah, here it is: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0419372/ > > - jmh I wanted to watch that, but it came on at an inconvenient time for me and we didn't have DVR yet. Is it available on DVD? If so, is it worth the effort to get my hands on the DVD? Is there any way for me to put any more questions in this paragraph without it being ridiculous? And can anyone write up a laymen's explanation comparing Cymbalta to Zoloft, or will I be stuck doing that myself later today? (OK, the last one is unnecessary, I can do that one just fine.) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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> Dave Land wrote > > I was about to reply with a snarky comment about how the > Discovery Channel will no doubt produce a fear-mongering > video about the dangers of the Supervolcano in Yellowstone, > but the Discovery Channel beat me to it There was a made for TV (cable?) movie called "Supervolcano" if I recall correctly a few years ago about the eruption of caldera at Yellowstone. My wife and I watched it but I'm not sure why. Not horrible but not great either. Ah, here it is: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0419372/ - jmh CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information or otherwise protected by law. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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> Matt Grimaldi wrote > >> Lance A. Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> What is the fascination (mania? obsession?) with the word >> "maru" on this list? > > This whole thing started because, for a time, there were a > large number of brin-lers that also belonged to the list for > fans of Ian Banks' Culture series. > (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Culture) > > A feature of the books (I gather) is to name spaceships by > their designation (GCU, ROU, and others, similar to the way > that naval ships are organized into classes based on size, > speed, and purpose) along with something apropos to the > personality of the owner, mission, commander, or whatever > (e.g.: ROU Nail in the coffin). > > The members of the Culture list would often put such a ship > name in their signatures even when they were sending > messages on Brin-L. > This simply would not do :-), so we started using Maru > designations instead. As to why that particular word, others > have better explanations than I could give. I think we need to have a Brin-L FAQ and this would be the number one entry! Not that I'm volunteering or anything... - jmh CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information or otherwise protected by law. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On 11/11/07, Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Nov 9, 2007, at 10:42 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: > > > http://unews.utah.edu/p/?r=102507-1 > > > > Yellowstone is rising. This might help explain why we were lucky > > enough to > > see a geyser at the Norris basin behave in an entirely new way when > > we were > > there last year. It had been a little bubbling thing for as long > > as there > > were records, but the afternoon we came, it shot off a huge > > eruption that > > lasted more than an hour. > > > > I worked at Old Faithful in 1981... but I can't say that I noticed > > that it's > > gotten higher. ;-) > > > > If it decides to erupt, I want to be far, far away. And west. > > I was about to reply with a snarky comment about how the Discovery > Channel will no doubt produce a fear-mongering video about the dangers > of the Supervolcano in Yellowstone, but the Discovery Channel beat me to > it: Um... aren't they clients of ours? ;-) Nick Profiting from Fear Maru (now I'm doing it!) -- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Messages: 408-904-7198 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On Nov 9, 2007, at 10:42 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: > http://unews.utah.edu/p/?r=102507-1 > > Yellowstone is rising. This might help explain why we were lucky > enough to > see a geyser at the Norris basin behave in an entirely new way when > we were > there last year. It had been a little bubbling thing for as long > as there > were records, but the afternoon we came, it shot off a huge > eruption that > lasted more than an hour. > > I worked at Old Faithful in 1981... but I can't say that I noticed > that it's > gotten higher. ;-) > > If it decides to erupt, I want to be far, far away. And west. I was about to reply with a snarky comment about how the Discovery Channel will no doubt produce a fear-mongering video about the dangers of the Supervolcano in Yellowstone, but the Discovery Channel beat me to it: http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence/supervolcano/supervolcano.html In their defense, they do say "Though Yellowstone could erupt again someday, there is no evidence that the caldera is readying for another massive blast, says Smith. That outlook is shared by Jake Lowenstern, the U.S. Geological Survey's lead geologist at the Yellowstone Volcano Observatory." Dave ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Matt said: > A feature of the books (I gather) is to name spaceships by their > designation (GCU, ROU, and others, similar to the way that naval ships > are organized into classes based on size, speed, and purpose) along > with something apropos to the personality of the owner, mission, > commander, or whatever (e.g.: ROU Nail in the coffin). ...the personality of the ship. All the Culture's ships and habitats (and many other machines besides) are sentient machine intelligences. Rich ROU Minor Correction ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Lance wrote: > I've only read one of the Culture books (Use of Weapons) and didn't get > all the way through it. I seriously don't see what fascinates people > with those books. Well, if we were all fascinated by the same author it'd be a pretty dull world. Consider Phlebus is my favorite Banks, but I enjoyed all of the culture novels. Doug GSV Diversity ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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- Original Message From: Ronn! Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 9:30:11 PM Subject: Re: Uplift at Yellowstone At 11:21 PM Saturday 11/10/2007, Matt Grimaldi wrote: >Lance A. Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Welcome to Brin-L, by the way! > > > > What is the fascination (mania? obsession?) with the word "maru" on this > ]She's married to Pa-Ru. ](No known relationship to Ru Paul.) Should we just call any offspring "Joey"? -- Matt ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Always fun to arrive in the middle of a cultural movement and have to play catch-up. Thanks for the comments on maru-ism. Matt Grimaldi said the following on 11/10/2007 11:21 PM: > > This whole thing started because, for a time, there were > a large number of brin-lers that also belonged to the > list for fans of Ian Banks' Culture series. > (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Culture) I've only read one of the Culture books (Use of Weapons) and didn't get all the way through it. I seriously don't see what fascinates people with those books. --[Lance] -- Celebrate The Circle http://www.celebratethecircle.org/ Carolina Spirit Quest http://www.carolinaspiritquest.org/ My LiveJournal http://www.livejournal.com/users/labrown/ GPG Fingerprint: 409B A409 A38D 92BF 15D9 6EEE 9A82 F2AC 69AC 07B9 CACert.org Assurer ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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At 11:21 PM Saturday 11/10/2007, Matt Grimaldi wrote: >Lance A. Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Welcome to Brin-L, by the way! > > > > What is the fascination (mania? obsession?) with the word "maru" on this > > > list? The only maru I'm familiar with is the Kobyashi Maru from Star > > > Trek and I somehow don't think that is the correct reference. > > > >The Kobyashi Maru would be a red herring. > >This whole thing started because, for a time, there were >a large number of brin-lers that also belonged to the >list for fans of Ian Banks' Culture series. >(see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Culture) > >A feature of the books (I gather) is to name spaceships by their >designation (GCU, ROU, and others, similar to the way that naval ships >are organized into classes based on size, speed, and purpose) along >with something apropos to the personality of the owner, mission, >commander, or whatever (e.g.: ROU Nail in the coffin). > >The members of the Culture list would often put such a ship name in >their signatures even when they were sending messages on Brin-L. >This simply would not do :-), so we started using Maru designations >instead. As to why that particular word, others have better explanations >than I could give. She's married to Pa-Ru. (No known relationship to Ru Paul.) And welcome to the list. Greetings Maru -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Lance A. Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Welcome to Brin-L, by the way! > What is the fascination (mania? obsession?) with the word "maru" on this > list? The only maru I'm familiar with is the Kobyashi Maru from Star > Trek and I somehow don't think that is the correct reference. The Kobyashi Maru would be a red herring. This whole thing started because, for a time, there were a large number of brin-lers that also belonged to the list for fans of Ian Banks' Culture series. (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Culture) A feature of the books (I gather) is to name spaceships by their designation (GCU, ROU, and others, similar to the way that naval ships are organized into classes based on size, speed, and purpose) along with something apropos to the personality of the owner, mission, commander, or whatever (e.g.: ROU Nail in the coffin). The members of the Culture list would often put such a ship name in their signatures even when they were sending messages on Brin-L. This simply would not do :-), so we started using Maru designations instead. As to why that particular word, others have better explanations than I could give. -- Matt ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Lance wrote: >> "A maru once bit my sister." > > What is the fascination (mania? obsession?) with the word "maru" on this > list? The only maru I'm familiar with is the Kobyashi Maru from Star > Trek and I somehow don't think that is the correct reference. Ah, but you're closer than you think. Rob (the originator of the maru tag) Seeberger wrote in response the last time someone asked: (BTW, to you and other new listmembers, welcome!) The long answer: >> What is Maru? >> H..good question. >> Maru is a ship, a Japanese ship. >> Maru is also a defense against the cultural imperialism of the >> Culture >> mailing list with their GSVs and ROUs.(That's a different >> discussion >> though) >> Maru is a way of adding remarks at the end of a message in a way >> that >> is distinctive and exclusive to Brin-L. >> If you see someone who uses a Maru shipname, they are from Brin-L. >> Maru is a means to crack a joke, make an observation, or poke a >> stick >> in someone's eye. >> >> And below is the background from which it was derived. >> >> *** >> The word "maru" originated in the seventh century and has since >> come >> to >>> serve as a popular name for a host of Japanese vessels. The first >>> ship to use the suffix is said to have been the 16th century ship >>> called the Nipon Maru, built by the legendary Toyotomi Hideyoschi. >>> However, despite its widespread use, the word has never been >>> graced >>> with a definitive definition. >>> >>> Our attempts to muster a universal meaning of the term maru have >>> all >>> ended in frustration, with each possibility smothered in a >>> down-pour >>> of vaguery. For instance, one Japanese reference worker gave as >>> many >>> as fourteen meanings for maru, while another offered at least five >>> additional meanings without including all the other fourteen. >>> >>> These misunderstandings and discrepancies have arisen from the >>> fact >>> that maru is a word laced with suggestiveness. Here is a selection >>> of some of the explanations we have found. >>> >>> Possible meanings >>> The term maru originally seemed to act as a form of compliment >>> when >>> attached to certain personal names. >>> >>> For example, people seemed to be bestowing respect upon the eighth >>> century poet Hitomaru Kikinomoto by attaching the term to his >>> name. >>> It could also be seen as a term of endearment rather like a >>> diminutive, as in the juvenile name Ushiwakamaru, of the >>> twelfth-century general Yoshitsune Minamoto. >>> >>> Gradually the word was thrown to the dogs, literally, as people >>> became accustomed to bestowing it upon their pet animals. Other >>> names which received the maru blessing included a precious utensil >>> used perhaps in some kind of tea ceremony or even the favoured >>> tool >>> of a deft craftsman. Another example of this maru phenomenon can >>> be >>> found in the mighty sword Mura-same-Maru; this famous blade of the >>> seventeenth and eighteenth centuries was supposed to be so potent >>> that whoever owned it, regardless of his own intent, was destined >>> to >>> kill somebody sooner or later. >>> >>> The term maru also became associated with the concept of a circle. >>> This circular affinity suggested completeness, entirety, >>> wholeness; >>> notions which the image of a circle seems to symbolise. >>> >>> >>> Indeed, the connotation of 'wholeness' perhaps led to the use of >>> maru to mean 'one entire hour' and also as a term for the fanciful >>> frying of a 'whole' animal, as opposed to a mere handful of >>> giblets. >>> >>> In addition to all these other meanings, it also has an >>> association >>> with 'dust', while at the same time referring to 'those naive in >>> love', hence the wistful phrase "dusty lover". >>> >>> Maru and ships >>> Having sashayed through the multifarious meanings of maru, it is >>> now >>> time to cut to the chase, examining it in the context of ships. >>> The >>> use of maru in a ship name would seem to express the hope that the >>> ship will defend those aboard against all perils of the sea, being >>> as complete as a circle, as trustworthy as a sword and as virile >>> as >>> a master craftsman's favourite tool. In addition to this, it also >>> carried a feeling of attachment or endearment, such as that felt >>> by >>> one "dusty lover" for another. Also, unlike most other countries, >>> a >>> ship in Japan is referred to as a male and in adding "maru" to the >>> ships name, as was done with young boys in olden times, the ship >>> was >>> protected from harm. >>> >>> >>> >>> In the 1905 edition of Basil Hall Chamberlain's "Things Japanese" >>> he >>> says of `maru' "It is often asked: what does the word Maru mean in >>> the names of ships ...?" His answer is: >>> >>> a.. the real meaning is obscure >>> b.. it is probably merging of two words: `maru' and `maro', which >>> was a term of endearment. >>>
Re: Uplift at Yellowstone
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said the following on 11/10/2007 2:07 AM: > > In a message dated 11/9/2007 11:43:03 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Yellowstone is rising. > > > The word "uplift" makes me think the tytlal have been > pouring bicarbonate of soda down Old Faithful. *snrk* > "A maru once bit my sister." What is the fascination (mania? obsession?) with the word "maru" on this list? The only maru I'm familiar with is the Kobyashi Maru from Star Trek and I somehow don't think that is the correct reference. --[lance] -- Celebrate The Circle http://www.celebratethecircle.org/ Carolina Spirit Quest http://www.carolinaspiritquest.org/ My LiveJournal http://www.livejournal.com/users/labrown/ GPG Fingerprint: 409B A409 A38D 92BF 15D9 6EEE 9A82 F2AC 69AC 07B9 CACert.org Assurer ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Uplift at Yellowstone
In a message dated 11/9/2007 11:43:03 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yellowstone is rising. The word "uplift" makes me think the tytlal have been pouring bicarbonate of soda down Old Faithful. "A maru once bit my sister." Vilyehm ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Uplift at Yellowstone
http://unews.utah.edu/p/?r=102507-1 Yellowstone is rising. This might help explain why we were lucky enough to see a geyser at the Norris basin behave in an entirely new way when we were there last year. It had been a little bubbling thing for as long as there were records, but the afternoon we came, it shot off a huge eruption that lasted more than an hour. I worked at Old Faithful in 1981... but I can't say that I noticed that it's gotten higher. ;-) If it decides to erupt, I want to be far, far away. And west. Nick -- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Messages: 408-904-7198 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
