Re: Uplift books on Kindle?

2010-01-31 Thread Chris Frandsen
And it seems Apple's blockade can be run...
http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/01/google-voice-web-app-circumvents-apples-blockade/

Learner

On Jan 29, 2010, at 11:08 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote:

 On 28 Jan 2010 at 22:16, Chris Frandsen wrote:
 
 I mistakenly said ibook I meant native iPad app. The iPhone apps will run 
 as written for the iPhone on the iPad or so it was claimed.  Obviously a 
 rewrite is required to take full advantage of the iPad's chips.
 Yes, we will find out soon.
 Want to bet?
 
 *MOST* iPhone apps will run, they said.
 
 And no, I'm not putting cash on something Apple do, their descisions are too 
 often based on issues other than logic from my perspective (like big media's 
 paranoia)
 
 AndrewC
 
 learner
 
 
 
 On Jan 28, 2010, at 5:05 PM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
 
 On 28 Jan 2010 at 14:43, Chris Frandsen wrote:
 
 I have used the Kindle app on the iphone. Jobs promised iphone apps will 
 run on iPad. He usually makes good on his promises. Sure the app will not 
 be as good as the native ibook app.
 
 No, what he said was most apps will work on the iPad.
 
 It's something of an overstatement, given any app using the GS's 
 PowerVR chip is going to need a substantial re-write to perform 
 acceptably, and even above that and above the apps irrelevant because 
 of hardware, there is still room in what he said to reject apps on 
 ideological grounds.
 
 I'm not saying they will, I'm saying it would need a substantial 
 change in how Apple deliver apps for them to allow directly competing 
 book apps on the iPad. We should know relatively soon.
 
 AndrewC
 
 learner
 On Jan 28, 2010, at 5:52 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
 
 On 27 Jan 2010 at 15:10, Chris Frandsen wrote:
 
 But how about the iPad???:-)
 Kindle app does run on the iPad so in just 60+ days.
 
 Unwaranted assumption. Apple don't allow apps which directly compete 
 with core functionality on the iPhone, after all...
 
 Also, the iPad is just 132dpi and it'll need a new iPad-specific 
 release to deal with resoloution issues.
 
 AndrewC
 
 learner
 
 
 On Jan 27, 2010, at 12:50 PM, John Williams wrote:
 
 The Jijo trilogy is now available on Kindle (as separate books). Also,
 Uplift War is available. The publisher says that Startide Rising and
 Sundiver are coming to Kindle in late February.
 
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Re: Uplift books on Kindle?

2010-01-31 Thread William T Goodall

On 31 Jan 2010, at 22:06, Chris Frandsen wrote:

 And it seems Apple's blockade can be run...
 http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/01/google-voice-web-app-circumvents-apples-blockade/
 
 Learner
 
 On Jan 29, 2010, at 11:08 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
 
 On 28 Jan 2010 at 22:16, Chris Frandsen wrote:
 
 I mistakenly said ibook I meant native iPad app. The iPhone apps will run 
 as written for the iPhone on the iPad or so it was claimed.  Obviously a 
 rewrite is required to take full advantage of the iPad's chips.
 Yes, we will find out soon.
 Want to bet?
 
 *MOST* iPhone apps will run, they said.

The ones that need the phone hardware won't. iPod Touch apps should run OK.
 
 And no, I'm not putting cash on something Apple do, their descisions are too 
 often based on issues other than logic from my perspective (like big media's 
 paranoia)
 
 AndrewC
 
 learner
 
 
 
 On Jan 28, 2010, at 5:05 PM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
 
 On 28 Jan 2010 at 14:43, Chris Frandsen wrote:
 
 I have used the Kindle app on the iphone. Jobs promised iphone apps will 
 run on iPad. He usually makes good on his promises. Sure the app will not 
 be as good as the native ibook app.
 
 No, what he said was most apps will work on the iPad.
 
 It's something of an overstatement, given any app using the GS's 
 PowerVR chip is going to need a substantial re-write to perform 
 acceptably, and even above that and above the apps irrelevant because 
 of hardware, there is still room in what he said to reject apps on 
 ideological grounds.
 
 I'm not saying they will, I'm saying it would need a substantial 
 change in how Apple deliver apps for them to allow directly competing 
 book apps on the iPad. We should know relatively soon.

They don't do anything to stop you buying non-DRM music or video from any 
source you like. Why would books be different?
 
 AndrewC
 
 learner
 On Jan 28, 2010, at 5:52 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
 
 On 27 Jan 2010 at 15:10, Chris Frandsen wrote:
 
 But how about the iPad???:-)
 Kindle app does run on the iPad so in just 60+ days.
 
 Unwaranted assumption. Apple don't allow apps which directly compete 
 with core functionality on the iPhone, after all...

Core user experience.

 
 Also, the iPad is just 132dpi and it'll need a new iPad-specific 
 release to deal with resoloution issues.



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Re: Uplift books on Kindle?

2010-01-31 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 1 Feb 2010 at 1:16, William T Goodall wrote:

 
 On 31 Jan 2010, at 22:06, Chris Frandsen wrote:
 
  And it seems Apple's blockade can be run...
  http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/01/google-voice-web-app-circumvents-apples-blockade/
  
  Learner
  
  On Jan 29, 2010, at 11:08 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
  
  On 28 Jan 2010 at 22:16, Chris Frandsen wrote:
  
  I mistakenly said ibook I meant native iPad app. The iPhone apps will 
  run as written for the iPhone on the iPad or so it was claimed.  
  Obviously a rewrite is required to take full advantage of the iPad's 
  chips.
  Yes, we will find out soon.
  Want to bet?
  
  *MOST* iPhone apps will run, they said.
 
 The ones that need the phone hardware won't. iPod Touch apps should run OK.

That's an assumption. We simply don't know at this point if they'll 
exclude apps for other reasons. (and you have one app which has to 
handle both the iPhone and the iPod Touch, disabling certain features 
if necessary at present...).

AndrewC

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Re: Uplift books on Kindle?

2010-01-29 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 28 Jan 2010 at 22:16, Chris Frandsen wrote:

 I mistakenly said ibook I meant native iPad app. The iPhone apps will run 
 as written for the iPhone on the iPad or so it was claimed.  Obviously a 
 rewrite is required to take full advantage of the iPad's chips.
 Yes, we will find out soon.
 Want to bet?

*MOST* iPhone apps will run, they said.

And no, I'm not putting cash on something Apple do, their descisions are too 
often based on issues other than logic from my perspective (like big media's 
paranoia)

AndrewC

 learner
 
 
 
 On Jan 28, 2010, at 5:05 PM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
 
  On 28 Jan 2010 at 14:43, Chris Frandsen wrote:
  
  I have used the Kindle app on the iphone. Jobs promised iphone apps will 
  run on iPad. He usually makes good on his promises. Sure the app will not 
  be as good as the native ibook app.
  
  No, what he said was most apps will work on the iPad.
  
  It's something of an overstatement, given any app using the GS's 
  PowerVR chip is going to need a substantial re-write to perform 
  acceptably, and even above that and above the apps irrelevant because 
  of hardware, there is still room in what he said to reject apps on 
  ideological grounds.
  
  I'm not saying they will, I'm saying it would need a substantial 
  change in how Apple deliver apps for them to allow directly competing 
  book apps on the iPad. We should know relatively soon.
  
  AndrewC
  
  learner
  On Jan 28, 2010, at 5:52 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
  
  On 27 Jan 2010 at 15:10, Chris Frandsen wrote:
  
  But how about the iPad???:-)
  Kindle app does run on the iPad so in just 60+ days.
  
  Unwaranted assumption. Apple don't allow apps which directly compete 
  with core functionality on the iPhone, after all...
  
  Also, the iPad is just 132dpi and it'll need a new iPad-specific 
  release to deal with resoloution issues.
  
  AndrewC
  
  learner
  
  
  On Jan 27, 2010, at 12:50 PM, John Williams wrote:
  
  The Jijo trilogy is now available on Kindle (as separate books). Also,
  Uplift War is available. The publisher says that Startide Rising and
  Sundiver are coming to Kindle in late February.
  
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Re: Uplift books on Kindle?

2010-01-28 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 27 Jan 2010 at 15:10, Chris Frandsen wrote:

 But how about the iPad???:-)
 Kindle app does run on the iPad so in just 60+ days.

Unwaranted assumption. Apple don't allow apps which directly compete 
with core functionality on the iPhone, after all...

Also, the iPad is just 132dpi and it'll need a new iPad-specific 
release to deal with resoloution issues.

AndrewC

 learner
 
 
 On Jan 27, 2010, at 12:50 PM, John Williams wrote:
 
  The Jijo trilogy is now available on Kindle (as separate books). Also,
  Uplift War is available. The publisher says that Startide Rising and
  Sundiver are coming to Kindle in late February.
  
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Re: Uplift books on Kindle?

2010-01-28 Thread Chris Frandsen
I have used the Kindle app on the iphone. Jobs promised iphone apps will run on 
iPad. He usually makes good on his promises. Sure the app will not be as good 
as the native ibook app.

learner
On Jan 28, 2010, at 5:52 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote:

 On 27 Jan 2010 at 15:10, Chris Frandsen wrote:
 
 But how about the iPad???:-)
 Kindle app does run on the iPad so in just 60+ days.
 
 Unwaranted assumption. Apple don't allow apps which directly compete 
 with core functionality on the iPhone, after all...
 
 Also, the iPad is just 132dpi and it'll need a new iPad-specific 
 release to deal with resoloution issues.
 
 AndrewC
 
 learner
 
 
 On Jan 27, 2010, at 12:50 PM, John Williams wrote:
 
 The Jijo trilogy is now available on Kindle (as separate books). Also,
 Uplift War is available. The publisher says that Startide Rising and
 Sundiver are coming to Kindle in late February.
 
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Re: Uplift books on Kindle?

2010-01-28 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 28 Jan 2010 at 14:43, Chris Frandsen wrote:

 I have used the Kindle app on the iphone. Jobs promised iphone apps will run 
 on iPad. He usually makes good on his promises. Sure the app will not be as 
 good as the native ibook app.

No, what he said was most apps will work on the iPad.

It's something of an overstatement, given any app using the GS's 
PowerVR chip is going to need a substantial re-write to perform 
acceptably, and even above that and above the apps irrelevant because 
of hardware, there is still room in what he said to reject apps on 
ideological grounds.

I'm not saying they will, I'm saying it would need a substantial 
change in how Apple deliver apps for them to allow directly competing 
book apps on the iPad. We should know relatively soon.

AndrewC

 learner
 On Jan 28, 2010, at 5:52 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
 
  On 27 Jan 2010 at 15:10, Chris Frandsen wrote:
  
  But how about the iPad???:-)
  Kindle app does run on the iPad so in just 60+ days.
  
  Unwaranted assumption. Apple don't allow apps which directly compete 
  with core functionality on the iPhone, after all...
  
  Also, the iPad is just 132dpi and it'll need a new iPad-specific 
  release to deal with resoloution issues.
  
  AndrewC
  
  learner
  
  
  On Jan 27, 2010, at 12:50 PM, John Williams wrote:
  
  The Jijo trilogy is now available on Kindle (as separate books). Also,
  Uplift War is available. The publisher says that Startide Rising and
  Sundiver are coming to Kindle in late February.
  
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Re: Uplift books on Kindle?

2010-01-28 Thread Chris Frandsen
I mistakenly said ibook I meant native iPad app. The iPhone apps will run as 
written for the iPhone on the iPad or so it was claimed.  Obviously a rewrite 
is required to take full advantage of the iPad's chips.
Yes, we will find out soon.
Want to bet?

learner



On Jan 28, 2010, at 5:05 PM, Andrew Crystall wrote:

 On 28 Jan 2010 at 14:43, Chris Frandsen wrote:
 
 I have used the Kindle app on the iphone. Jobs promised iphone apps will run 
 on iPad. He usually makes good on his promises. Sure the app will not be as 
 good as the native ibook app.
 
 No, what he said was most apps will work on the iPad.
 
 It's something of an overstatement, given any app using the GS's 
 PowerVR chip is going to need a substantial re-write to perform 
 acceptably, and even above that and above the apps irrelevant because 
 of hardware, there is still room in what he said to reject apps on 
 ideological grounds.
 
 I'm not saying they will, I'm saying it would need a substantial 
 change in how Apple deliver apps for them to allow directly competing 
 book apps on the iPad. We should know relatively soon.
 
 AndrewC
 
 learner
 On Jan 28, 2010, at 5:52 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
 
 On 27 Jan 2010 at 15:10, Chris Frandsen wrote:
 
 But how about the iPad???:-)
 Kindle app does run on the iPad so in just 60+ days.
 
 Unwaranted assumption. Apple don't allow apps which directly compete 
 with core functionality on the iPhone, after all...
 
 Also, the iPad is just 132dpi and it'll need a new iPad-specific 
 release to deal with resoloution issues.
 
 AndrewC
 
 learner
 
 
 On Jan 27, 2010, at 12:50 PM, John Williams wrote:
 
 The Jijo trilogy is now available on Kindle (as separate books). Also,
 Uplift War is available. The publisher says that Startide Rising and
 Sundiver are coming to Kindle in late February.
 
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Re: Uplift books on Kindle?

2010-01-27 Thread John Williams
The Jijo trilogy is now available on Kindle (as separate books). Also,
Uplift War is available. The publisher says that Startide Rising and
Sundiver are coming to Kindle in late February.

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Re: Uplift books on Kindle?

2010-01-27 Thread Chris Frandsen
But how about the iPad???:-)
Kindle app does run on the iPad so in just 60+ days.

learner


On Jan 27, 2010, at 12:50 PM, John Williams wrote:

 The Jijo trilogy is now available on Kindle (as separate books). Also,
 Uplift War is available. The publisher says that Startide Rising and
 Sundiver are coming to Kindle in late February.
 
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Re: BRIN: Uplift books on Kindle?

2010-01-13 Thread John Williams
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 11:42 AM, David Brin db...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 I have a query in.  Alas, it is a department that I have no influence over,
 but I will keep trying...

Thanks for checking. I hope someone replies to you! I have heard from
some other authors that it is difficult to get a useful response from
people about Kindle release issues.

On the bright side, Heaven's Reach released today on Kindle.

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Re: BRIN: Uplift books on Kindle?

2010-01-11 Thread John Williams
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 3:00 PM, David Brin db...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 The Startide Rising release says January 11 2009.   I suspectt that's a
 misprint and should be January 11, 2010?  That'd explain the glitch and
 should resolve in a week.

Nope, still no Kindle edition of Startide Rising available.

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Re: BRIN: Uplift books on Kindle?

2010-01-11 Thread David Brin
I have a query in.  Alas, it is a department that I have no influence over, but 
I will keep trying...

thanks

db




From: John Williams jwilliams4...@gmail.com
To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Mon, January 11, 2010 1:18:32 AM
Subject: Re: BRIN: Uplift books on Kindle?

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 3:00 PM, David Brin db...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 The Startide Rising release says January 11 2009.   I suspectt that's a
 misprint and should be January 11, 2010?  That'd explain the glitch and
 should resolve in a week.

Nope, still no Kindle edition of Startide Rising available.

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Re: BRIN: Uplift books on Kindle?

2010-01-07 Thread David Brin
The Startide Rising release says January 11 2009.   I suspectt that's a 
misprint and should be January 11, 2010?  That'd explain the glitch and should 
resolve in a week.

I have a query in about Brightness Reef thanks!




From: John Williams jwilliams4...@gmail.com
To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Wed, January 6, 2010 10:23:00 PM
Subject: BRIN: Uplift books on Kindle?

I was checking again for the Uplift books on Amazon Kindle, and things
have improved since the last time I looked, but the status is odd.

Uplift War is available on Kindle, and Heaven's Reach is available for
pre-order (Jan 13 release).

Oddly, Brightness Reef and Infinity's Shore are nowhere to be found on
Kindle. Why release Heaven's Reach but not the other two in the
trilogy?

And Startide Rising is still missing. If you search the Kindle store
for David Brin, you find a listing for Startide Rising: Kindle
Edition - Jan 11, 2009 Buy $3.55 Available for Pre-order but clicking
on the link gives a page that says Pricing information not available
and no way to purchase or pre-order the Kindle edition of the book.

What is going on?

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BRIN: Uplift books on Kindle?

2010-01-06 Thread John Williams
I was checking again for the Uplift books on Amazon Kindle, and things
have improved since the last time I looked, but the status is odd.

Uplift War is available on Kindle, and Heaven's Reach is available for
pre-order (Jan 13 release).

Oddly, Brightness Reef and Infinity's Shore are nowhere to be found on
Kindle. Why release Heaven's Reach but not the other two in the
trilogy?

And Startide Rising is still missing. If you search the Kindle store
for David Brin, you find a listing for Startide Rising: Kindle
Edition - Jan 11, 2009 Buy $3.55 Available for Pre-order but clicking
on the link gives a page that says Pricing information not available
and no way to purchase or pre-order the Kindle edition of the book.

What is going on?

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