Re: airliner ditches in hudson river
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 7:50 AM, John Garcia wrote: > > > apparently the pilot, a former USAF fighter pilot, also was an experienced > glider pilot. good thing, because without power, that airbus was > essentially > a glider. At first when I read this, I thought, "Not a very good one." But apparently the A320 has a pretty good glide ratio for a jet -- around 17:1. Flying sailplanes is supposed to make anybody a better pilot because you gain a lot more experience with situations that don't happen with other aircraft. In this case, the big one was probably accelerated stalls, in which the high wing stalls during a turn and the plane falls back toward level. That's nowhere near as catastrophic as a full stall at low altitude, but it means you end up pointing somewhere other than where you intended, which makes it hard to put the plane down where you thought you were going to. Flight instructors pound into their students to always know exactly when you have enough airspeed and altitude to be able to glide back to the field... because many planes have been crashed by people who thought they could return after takeoff, but stalled out when trying to make the turn back toward it. BTW, the chief pilot of the company my USAir pilot friend used to work for was killed when he was doing a check ride with another pilot in a LearJet, practicing engine out on takeoff. Even when you know it's going to happen, it can kill you. Nick ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: airliner ditches in hudson river
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Rceeberger wrote: > > On 1/15/2009 4:01:48 PM, John Garcia (john...@gmail.com) wrote: > > a US Airways Airbus A320 went down in the Hudson River near the USS > > Intrepid > > after a bird strike > > crippled the engines > > > > http://wcbstv.com/breakingnewsalerts/us.airways.crash.2.909535.html > > > > john > > you can't make this up maru > > Man..those people onboard were extraordinarily fortunate, and that > pilot > amazingly good! > > > xponent > Prepare For Impact Maru > rob > > ___ > http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l > apparently the pilot, a former USAF fighter pilot, also was an experienced glider pilot. good thing, because without power, that airbus was essentially a glider. your seat cushion may also be used as a flotation device maru john ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: airliner ditches in hudson river
There's already a Wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Airways_Flight_1549 (initial version: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=US_Airways_Flight_1549&oldid=264353468 ) "It's Throw Open Our Doors to People Who Want to Discuss Things That We Could Care Less About Day." -- Toby Ziegler ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: airliner ditches in hudson river
On Jan 15, 2009, at 5:18 PM, Rceeberger wrote:
> On 1/15/2009 4:01:48 PM, John Garcia (john...@gmail.com) wrote:
>> a US Airways Airbus A320 went down in the Hudson River near the USS
>> Intrepid
>> after a bird strike
>> crippled the engines
>>
>> http://wcbstv.com/breakingnewsalerts/us.airways.crash.2.909535.html
>>
>> john
>> you can't make this up maru
>
> Man..those people onboard were extraordinarily fortunate, and
> that pilot
> amazingly good!
I was just thinking that suffering a multiple engine failure on
climbout from LaGuardia at too low an altitude to make it back to the
airport would leave very few survivable landing options other than the
Hudson, and ditching right by the 40th St pier was a really good call,
all things considered. Apparently the ferries from the ferry terminal
were on the scene quickly enough that most of the passengers didn't
even get wet (which was a good thing, as 40-ish degree water is a
recipe for pretty rapid hypothermia), and between the tugboats and
HYPD harbor patrol, the situation was under control pretty quickly.
Yeah, they freaked out half of Midtown, but all things considered,
amazingly good piloting and thinking outside the box. :) ("A good
landing is one you can walk away from. A great landing is one after
which they can use the plane again.")
It is vital to recognize situations you control through your own
resources and abilities, and situations you control only because
circumstances allow you to control them .. because the actions you
take may make those favorable circumstances unfavorable in the blink
of an eye. -- Me
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Re: airliner ditches in hudson river
On 1/15/2009 4:01:48 PM, John Garcia (john...@gmail.com) wrote: > a US Airways Airbus A320 went down in the Hudson River near the USS > Intrepid > after a bird strike > crippled the engines > > http://wcbstv.com/breakingnewsalerts/us.airways.crash.2.909535.html > > john > you can't make this up maru Man..those people onboard were extraordinarily fortunate, and that pilot amazingly good! xponent Prepare For Impact Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: airliner ditches in hudson river
Wow. One of my oldest good friends is a USAir pilot. I doubt he was at the controls because I think he's still flying 737s. Years ago, we were on short final to Allegheny County Airport when a hawk suddenly was filling our windscreen. From the right seat, John had the nose down faster than I could react. It's no fun to have to dive like that when you're already that close to the ground, but he did a great job of getting us away from the bird and back on the normal approach. I've always taken the flight attendants' safety instructions seriously, but... wow... "In the unlikely event of a water landing..." won't sound the same again for a while. Nick On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 2:01 PM, John Garcia wrote: > a US Airways Airbus A320 went down in the Hudson River near the USS > Intrepid > after a bird strike > crippled the engines > > http://wcbstv.com/breakingnewsalerts/us.airways.crash.2.909535.html > > john > you can't make this up maru > ___ > http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l > ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
airliner ditches in hudson river
a US Airways Airbus A320 went down in the Hudson River near the USS Intrepid after a bird strike crippled the engines http://wcbstv.com/breakingnewsalerts/us.airways.crash.2.909535.html john you can't make this up maru ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
