Rain.

2009-02-25 Thread Charlie Bell
It did. It rained. We had a couple of mils. It helped with the  
containment of the fires.


We've spent much of the day wondering whether the fire at Daylesford  
will skip containment lines, and burn down Claire's folks' cottage.  
But, you know. Money. Jobs. So on. Real stuff like economics really  
comes into focus when you're worried about ephemeral stuff like a  
family home that's been built over years being destroyed in minutes...


So, um, yeah. That's all.

Charlie.

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Re: Rain.

2009-02-25 Thread Doug Pensinger
Charlie  wrote:

It did. It rained. We had a couple of mils. It helped with the containment
 of the fires.

 We've spent much of the day wondering whether the fire at Daylesford will
 skip containment lines, and burn down Claire's folks' cottage. But, you
 know. Money. Jobs. So on. Real stuff like economics really comes into focus
 when you're worried about ephemeral stuff like a family home that's been
 built over years being destroyed in minutes...


Glad to hear you've had a little rain Charlie, hope its enough to keep your
family's cottage (and many others) safe.

Doug
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Re: Rain.

2009-02-25 Thread Charlie Bell


On 26/02/2009, at 5:00 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote:



Glad to hear you've had a little rain Charlie, hope its enough to  
keep your family's cottage (and many others) safe.


Actually, no. *sigh* Another 40 degree day tomorrow, and strong winds.  
Many schools have been closed.


Charlie.

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Red rain result of meteor explosion?

2004-05-08 Thread Gary Nunn


Not sure how I ran across this, but it seems to be an interesting
theory. It was hosted on a  Cornell server.

The links below are for the PDF of this document. If you are interested
in reading the entire document, but can't open a PDF, email me and I
will email you this article as a Word Document.

I have no idea of the scientific accuracy, but the only implausible part
(the me at least) is why didn't the debris disperse in the atmosphere
over the two month period?

Gary


Cometary panspermia explains the red rain of Kerala

Godfrey Louis  A. Santhosh Kumar 
School of Pure and Applied Physics, Mahatma Gandhi University,
Kottayam - 686560, Kerala, India.
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: October 5, 2003 

Red coloured rain occurred in many places of Kerala in India during July
to 
September 2001 due to the mixing of huge quantity of microscopic red
cells in the 
rainwater. Considering its correlation with a meteor airbust event, this

phenomenon raised an extraordinary question whether the cells are 
extraterrestrial. Here we show how the observed features of the red rain

phenomenon can be explained by considering the fragmentation and
atmospheric 
disintegration of a fragile cometary body that presumably contains a
dense 
collection of red cells. Slow settling of cells in the stratosphere
explains the 
continuation of the phenomenon for two months. The red cells under study
appear 
to be the resting spores of an extremophilic microorganism. Possible
presence of 
these cells in the interstellar clouds is speculated from its similarity
in UV 


http://arxiv.org/ftp/astro-ph/papers/0310/0310120.pdf

or

http://tinyurl.com/2sxuh


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Re: Red rain result of meteor explosion?

2004-05-08 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
Fred Hoyle is dead, but it seems Chandra Wickramisinghe has some followers . .



At 10:10 AM 5/8/04, Gary Nunn wrote:


Not sure how I ran across this, but it seems to be an interesting
theory. It was hosted on a  Cornell server.
The links below are for the PDF of this document. If you are interested
in reading the entire document, but can't open a PDF, email me and I
will email you this article as a Word Document.
I have no idea of the scientific accuracy, but the only implausible part
(the me at least) is why didn't the debris disperse in the atmosphere
over the two month period?
Gary

Cometary panspermia explains the red rain of Kerala

Godfrey Louis  A. Santhosh Kumar
School of Pure and Applied Physics, Mahatma Gandhi University,
Kottayam - 686560, Kerala, India.
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: October 5, 2003

Red coloured rain occurred in many places of Kerala in India during July
to
September 2001 due to the mixing of huge quantity of microscopic red
cells in the
rainwater. Considering its correlation with a meteor airbust event, this
phenomenon raised an extraordinary question whether the cells are
extraterrestrial. Here we show how the observed features of the red rain
phenomenon can be explained by considering the fragmentation and
atmospheric
disintegration of a fragile cometary body that presumably contains a
dense
collection of red cells. Slow settling of cells in the stratosphere
explains the
continuation of the phenomenon for two months. The red cells under study
appear
to be the resting spores of an extremophilic microorganism. Possible
presence of
these cells in the interstellar clouds is speculated from its similarity
in UV
http://arxiv.org/ftp/astro-ph/papers/0310/0310120.pdf

or

http://tinyurl.com/2sxuh

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Re: Red rain result of meteor explosion?

2004-05-08 Thread Robert Seeberger

- Original Message - 
From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: Red rain result of meteor explosion?


 Fred Hoyle is dead, but it seems Chandra Wickramisinghe has some
followers . .


Sure, panspermia has many adherents and seems to be gaining credence
currently.

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/astrobiology_nrc_040507.html


We know that life had to begin somehow and somewhere. The bias that
life could only arise on a planetary surface could possible be a
conceit.
Theories abound. (Or should I say hypothesis?)
But there are actually very few facts concerning the origins of life.



xponent
To The Best Of Our Knowledge Maru
rob


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RE: Red rain result of meteor explosion?

2004-05-08 Thread Nick Lidster
Not sure how I ran across this, but it seems to be an
interesting theory. It was hosted on a Cornell server.

The links below are for the PDF of this document. If you are
interested in reading the entire document, but can't open a PDF, email
me and I will email you this article as a Word Document.

I have no idea of the scientific accuracy, but the only
implausible part (the me at least) is why didn't the debris disperse
in the  atmosphere over the two month period?

Gary


Cometary panspermia explains the red rain of Kerala

Godfrey Louis  A. Santhosh Kumar 
School of Pure and Applied Physics, Mahatma Gandhi University,
Kottayam - 686560, Kerala, India.
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: October 5, 2003 

Red coloured rain occurred in many places of Kerala in India
during  July to September 2001 due to the mixing of huge quantity of
microscopic red cells in the rainwater. Considering its correlation
with a meteor airbust event, this

phenomenon raised an extraordinary question whether the cells
are 
extraterrestrial. Here we show how the observed features of the
red rain

phenomenon can be explained by considering the fragmentation and
atmospheric 
disintegration of a fragile cometary body that presumably
contains a  dense 
collection of red cells. Slow settling of cells in the
stratosphereexplains the 
continuation of the phenomenon for two months. The red cells
under   study appear 
to be the resting spores of an extremophilic microorganism.
Possiblepresence of 
these cells in the interstellar clouds is speculated from its
similarity in UV 


http://arxiv.org/ftp/astro-ph/papers/0310/0310120.pdf

or

http://tinyurl.com/2sxuh




Well seems like chtoran infestiation if you ask me


Nick Better call in Jim McCarthy and Lizard, almost forgot Foreman
Lidster
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Re: Red rain result of meteor explosion?

2004-05-08 Thread Gary Denton
Another scientist going outside his field.

Red dust was wind picking up sand and dust from the Middle East.

The odd structures that he thought was alien life was really that he
didn't know biology and chemistry.

http://www.sciscoop.com/story/2004/5/1/92822/77787
http://www.indiaexpress.com/news/regional/kerala/20030619-0.html

On Sat, 8 May 2004 15:21:08 -0230, Nick Lidster
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
Not sure how I ran across this, but it seems to be an
 interesting theory. It was hosted on a Cornell server.
 
The links below are for the PDF of this document. If you are
 interested in reading the entire document, but can't open a PDF, email
 me and I will email you this article as a Word Document.
 
I have no idea of the scientific accuracy, but the only
 implausible part (the me at least) is why didn't the debris disperse
 in the  atmosphere over the two month period?
 
Gary
 
Cometary panspermia explains the red rain of Kerala

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rain

2002-12-05 Thread The Fool
Suppose you wanted to calculate the time it would take an even consistent
rainfall over the entire surface of the earth to raise the sea level
above the level of Mt. Everest (+5 miles or so), what would you need to
know about rainfall, volume of the earth, topography of the earth, etc.
to make a good first order approximation?

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Re: rain

2002-12-05 Thread Trent Shipley
For a first order approximation you would throw away topography as 
irrelevant (after all, it starts at only 30% and gets smaller as you add 
water) and you would treat the Earth as a proper sphere using distance from 
the center of the sphere to mean sea level as diameter.

Assume a constant rainfall, not adujsted for the increasing size of the sphere 
as the ocean gets deeper.  Say, 1 inch per hour, that's a nice hard rain so 2 
feet a day.  It'll take a while to reach 5 miles. 

However, if you say wanted to know if it would fit into, say 40 days and 40 
nights, you would just assume that it rained 5 miles/40 days, that is 
1mile/8days, or 1/8 mile per day.  It would, indeed, require a miracle.

However, the miracle needed to produce such a global deluge would pale beside 
the erosive effects of so much precipitation.  Where *DID* all that topsoil 
come from?

On Thursday 05 December 2002 04:01 am, The Fool wrote:
 Suppose you wanted to calculate the time it would take an even consistent
 rainfall over the entire surface of the earth to raise the sea level
 above the level of Mt. Everest (+5 miles or so), what would you need to
 know about rainfall, volume of the earth, topography of the earth, etc.
 to make a good first order approximation?

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Re: rain

2002-12-05 Thread The Fool
 From: Trent Shipley [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 For a first order approximation you would throw away topography as 
 irrelevant (after all, it starts at only 30% and gets smaller as you
add 
 water) and you would treat the Earth as a proper sphere using distance
from 
 the center of the sphere to mean sea level as diameter.
 
 Assume a constant rainfall, not adujsted for the increasing size of the
sphere 
 as the ocean gets deeper.  Say, 1 inch per hour, that's a nice hard
rain so 2 
 feet a day.  It'll take a while to reach 5 miles. 
 
 However, if you say wanted to know if it would fit into, say 40 days
and 40 
 nights, you would just assume that it rained 5 miles/40 days, that is 
 1mile/8days, or 1/8 mile per day.  It would, indeed, require a miracle.
 
 However, the miracle needed to produce such a global deluge would pale
beside 
 the erosive effects of so much precipitation.  Where *DID* all that
topsoil 
 come from?

It would also boil the ocean from the friction of traveling through the
atmosphere.  I am not a believer in miracles.

Suppose you wanted a precise scientifically exact approximation?

 On Thursday 05 December 2002 04:01 am, The Fool wrote:
  Suppose you wanted to calculate the time it would take an even
consistent
  rainfall over the entire surface of the earth to raise the sea level
  above the level of Mt. Everest (+5 miles or so), what would you need
to
  know about rainfall, volume of the earth, topography of the earth,
etc.
  to make a good first order approximation?
 

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Re: rain

2002-12-05 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 05:01 AM 12/5/02 -0600, The Fool wrote:

Suppose you wanted to calculate the time it would take an even consistent
rainfall over the entire surface of the earth to raise the sea level
above the level of Mt. Everest (+5 miles or so), what would you need to
know about rainfall, volume of the earth, topography of the earth, etc.
to make a good first order approximation?




You need an additional 3.7 times the total volume of all the water on 
Earth, or a sphere of water about 1300 miles in diameter.  What you do with 
the excess when you have finished cleansing the Earth is left as an 
exercise for the student.



Been There Done That Maru



--Ronn! :)

I always knew that I would see the first man on the Moon.
I never dreamed that I would see the last.
--Dr. Jerry Pournelle


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Re: rain

2002-12-05 Thread Reggie Bautista
On Thursday 05 December 2002 04:01 am, The Fool wrote:
 Suppose you wanted to calculate the time it would take an even 
consistent
 rainfall over the entire surface of the earth to raise the sea level
 above the level of Mt. Everest (+5 miles or so), what would you need to
 know about rainfall, volume of the earth, topography of the earth, etc.
 to make a good first order approximation?

Trent Shipley replied:


For a first order approximation you would throw away topography as
irrelevant (after all, it starts at only 30% and gets smaller as you add
water) and you would treat the Earth as a proper sphere using distance from
the center of the sphere to mean sea level as diameter.

Assume a constant rainfall, not adujsted for the increasing size of the 
sphere
as the ocean gets deeper.  Say, 1 inch per hour, that's a nice hard rain so 
2
feet a day.  It'll take a while to reach 5 miles.

However, if you say wanted to know if it would fit into, say 40 days and 40
nights, you would just assume that it rained 5 miles/40 days, that is
1mile/8days, or 1/8 mile per day.  It would, indeed, require a miracle.

However, the miracle needed to produce such a global deluge would pale 
beside
the erosive effects of so much precipitation.  Where *DID* all that topsoil
come from?

Or perhaps one can assume that flood stories actually refer to widescale 
local or regional flooding, but not global.  Under those circumstances, what 
would be required for a first-order approximation, other than the land area 
affected?

Reggie Bautista


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