RE: the Cold War

2010-11-12 Thread Dan Minette
The biggest fallacy regarding it was the Soviet threat which was always exaggerated. Neither militarily nor politically did the soviet Union (or China and other 'communist allied') ever pose an existential threat to the U.S. So, if the US didn't fight the cold war, let it's military expenditures

RE: the Cold War

2010-11-12 Thread Dan Minette
-Original Message- From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com] On Behalf Of Euan Ritchie Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 7:10 PM To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion Subject: Re: the Cold War So, if the US didn't fight the cold war, let it's military

Re: the Cold War

2010-11-12 Thread Euan Ritchie
You wrote in response to Charlie mentioning an existential threat to Western Europe by the USSR: quote Well, yeah, but that was pretty much decided during the Berlin airlift when Uncle Joe made the decision that the USSR didn't want to fight. All that followed after that showdown was just

RE: the Cold War

2010-11-12 Thread Dan Minette
different from what I read. I'm glad we can agree upon the source of the misunderstanding. I think we may still have some reasonable differences on the Cold War which would be worth exploring, but it will probably be spread out as I have limited time at the moment for a well thought out discussion

Re: the Cold War

2010-11-11 Thread Charlie Bell
On 11/11/2010, at 6:58 PM, Euan Ritchie wrote: ...and judging by GDP figures, the USA is still fighting the Cold War. There never was a Cold War Yeah there was, but it didn't begin with Korea. It began about 1943 when Germany's defeat was clear and it's conquerors began to consider

Re: the Cold War

2010-11-11 Thread Euan Ritchie
The biggest fallacy regarding it was the Soviet threat which was always exaggerated. Neither militarily nor politically did the soviet Union (or China and other 'communist allied') ever pose an existential threat to the U.S. No, but it did to most of Europe... and that's what the Cold War

RE: the Cold War

2010-11-11 Thread Pat Mathews
...@ritchie.net.nz Subject: Re: the Cold War To: brin-l@mccmedia.com The biggest fallacy regarding it was the Soviet threat which was always exaggerated. Neither militarily nor politically did the soviet Union (or China and other 'communist allied') ever pose an existential threat to the U.S

RE: the Cold War

2010-11-11 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Pat Mathews wrote: Of course, Russia and China didn't like each other any better than we liked either one of them, or they, us. Still, Kipling's Great Game went on along all three borders for quite some time. Are you sure about that everybody-hated-America meme? I don't think there was

RE: the Cold War

2010-11-11 Thread Pat Mathews
://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ From: albm...@centroin.com.br To: brin-l@mccmedia.com Subject: RE: the Cold War Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 13:34:35 -0200 Pat Mathews wrote: Of course, Russia and China didn't like each other any better than we liked either one of them, or they, us. Still

Re: the Cold War

2010-11-11 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Nov 11, 2010, at 7:41 AM, Pat Mathews wrote: Of course, Russia and China didn't like each other any better than we liked either one of them, or they, us. Still, Kipling's Great Game went on along all three borders for quite some time. Which took the US a long time to figure out,

Re: the Cold War

2010-11-11 Thread Euan Ritchie
I don't think there was too many anti-USA feeling in Russia and China during the 1950s and 1960s. Your good Marxist would never be anti-U.S, just anti-capitalist exploiter. Ideology not nationalism. ___

Re: the Cold War

2010-11-10 Thread Euan Ritchie
...and judging by GDP figures, the USA is still fighting the Cold War. There never was a Cold War Yeah there was, but it didn't begin with Korea. It began about 1943 when Germany's defeat was clear and it's conquerors began to consider what would be the fate of Europe afterwards. The biggest

Re: the Cold War

2010-11-08 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Jon Louis Mann wrote: ...and judging by GDP figures, the USA is still fighting the Cold War. There never was a Cold War beginning with the Korean War WW III was a global conflict against Communism in Latin America, The Carribbean, Africa, Southeast Asia, Eastern Europe, etc. In fact

Re: the Cold War

2010-11-08 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Nov 8, 2010, at 4:55 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Jon Louis Mann wrote: ...and judging by GDP figures, the USA is still fighting the Cold War. There never was a Cold War beginning with the Korean War WW III was a global conflict against Communism in Latin America, The Carribbean, Africa

the Cold War

2010-11-05 Thread Jon Louis Mann
...and judging by GDP figures, the USA is still fighting the Cold War. There never was a Cold War beginning with the Korean War WW III was a global conflict against Communism in Latin America, The Carribbean, Africa, Southeast Asia, Eastern Europe, etc. In fact the US has been in a state