Re:Re:Re:It's not just Bowie, or is it?

2003-06-30 Thread Martin Malmkvist
I don't know if I got Ibrahim's message right, but I think that there is no real idea in continuing this discussion. The original purpose was to highlight some probable causes why there is so much anti-americanism out there, and I think those reasons have been thoroughly clarified (and the

Re:Re:Re:It's not just Bowie, or is it?

2003-06-30 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Martin Malmkvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if I got Ibrahim's message right, but I think that there is no real idea in continuing this discussion. The original purpose was to highlight some probable causes why there is so much anti-americanism out there, and I think those

Re:Re:Re:It's not just Bowie, or is it?

2003-06-28 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Jeroen van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At Stardate 20030627.1753, Jan Coffey wrote: Does the American public actually have any idea about how we perceive your extreme distrust of government and anything that reeks of government involvement? No please explain. I

Re:Re:Re:It's not just Bowie, or is it?

2003-06-26 Thread Jeroen van Baardwijk
At Stardate 200326.0034, Bryon Daly wrote: When someone allegedly broke a law, do you really believe that uneducated Joe Average is more qualified to determine whether a law really was broken than someone who has actually *studied* the laws? I think that a large part of the judgement of a case

Re:Re:Re:It's not just Bowie, or is it?

2003-06-26 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Jeroen van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At Stardate 20030626.0018, Jan Coffey wrote: I trust an average person taken from the street far more than I would trust someone who does it for a living. So, when you feel ill, you ask a not-medically-trained average person from

Re:Re:Re:It's not just Bowie, or is it?

2003-06-26 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Jeroen van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See other post about law complexity. Where more technical points of law are involved, the judge is involved, and he/she can dismiss the case, declare a mistrial, exclude evidence, instruct the jury on the points of law, order the jury not

Re:Re:Re:It's not just Bowie, or is it?

2003-06-25 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Jorpho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But the way the ICC is set up, they would not recieve a trial by their peers. Without that we do not beleive that IUPG works. Then you really need to study how things are done in other countries. I'll use The Netherlands as an example: we don't

Re:Re:Re:It's not just Bowie, or is it?

2003-06-25 Thread Jeroen van Baardwijk
At Stardate 20030625.2043, Jorpho wrote: It has been said that there is a certain dramatic allure to the whole secret process of sending the jury off to deliberate before unveiling with a flourish what they agreed on, without any consderation given to how they arrived at this conclusion.

Re:Re:Re:It's not just Bowie, or is it?

2003-06-25 Thread Jeroen van Baardwijk
At Stardate 20030625.2102, Jan Coffey wrote: I trust an average person taken from the street far more than I would trust someone who does it for a living. So, when you feel ill, you ask a not-medically-trained average person from the street for a diagnosis, rather than go see a physician (a

Re:Re:Re:It's not just Bowie, or is it?

2003-06-25 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Jeroen van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At Stardate 20030625.2102, Jan Coffey wrote: I trust an average person taken from the street far more than I would trust someone who does it for a living. So, when you feel ill, you ask a not-medically-trained average person from the