Degeneration? Re: Where to now?

2012-11-21 Thread Klaus Stock
Okay, back to my discussion with myself ;-) > This, of course, a tendency only. But it's sufficient and it surely > kills innovation. I wonder how much further this tendency will go. I always found it hard to swallow when SciFi authors wrote about "old degenerate races". Not only Dr. Brin; it als

RE: Degeneration? Re: Where to now?

2012-11-21 Thread Pat Mathews
Ok - my take on it is that "old, degenerate" refers to the institutions of the culture, not the biology of the race, and that those institutions strangle the energy and desire to innovate of most bright people in the cradle. First of all, there would be widespread corruption, and probably abso

Re: Where to now?

2012-11-21 Thread Kevin O'Brien
On 11/20/2012 4:35 PM, Dan Minette wrote: BTW, my doctoral dissertation at the University of Michigan involved banking and monetary issues. One of the best lessons I learned was that people who really understand what they are talking about can say >it it plain English. Well, that just makes y

Re: Where to now?

2012-11-21 Thread John Williams
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 7:12 AM, Kevin O'Brien wrote: > So at this point I can only conclude that the Republicans are congenital > liars. You are wearing selective blinders. All politicians are liars. ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/br

Re: Where to now?

2012-11-21 Thread Klaus Stock
>> So at this point I can only conclude that the Republicans are congenital >> liars. > You are wearing selective blinders. All politicians are liars. But not all are congenital. Luckily, most voters do not care if the lies are plausible or at least delivered convincingly. - Klaus ___

Re: Where to now?

2012-11-21 Thread John Williams
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Klaus Stock wrote: >>> So at this point I can only conclude that the Republicans are congenital >>> liars. > >> You are wearing selective blinders. All politicians are liars. > > But not all are congenital. Ha! > Luckily, most voters do not care if the lies are p

Politicians

2012-11-21 Thread Jon Louis Mann
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 Kevin O'Brien wrote: > > So at this point I can only conclude that the > Republicans are congenital liars. > You are wearing selective blinders. All politicians are > liars. > But not all are congenital. > Luckily, most voters do not care if the lies are plausible > or a

Re: Brin-l Digest, Vol 42, Issue 16

2012-11-21 Thread Keith Henson
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Klaus Stock wrote: snip > But now I wonder if we haven't already reached the goal of becoming a > "degenerate race". Progress mainly happens in marketing, not in > research and development. And while we have a lot of "hero material" > in our population, none