Hello...

2006-02-21 Thread Charlie Bell
Hey chaps and chapesses, Thought I'd pop in to see how things are. So what's new in Brin-L land? Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Hello...

2006-02-21 Thread Charlie Bell
On Feb 22, 2006, at 8:58 AM, Russell Chapman wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: Hey chaps and chapesses, Thought I'd pop in to see how things are. Hey Charlie! Hey Russel! (And Will and Rob, but I see you guys over in Culture... :p) Are you still in the Med? Not right now, I'm in Oz. Just

Re: Hello...

2006-02-22 Thread Charlie Bell
On Feb 22, 2006, at 2:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would that be Oz-tentacious? Glad to see the standard of puns hasn't improved since I was last here (um... 3 years ago? $deity knows...). Charlie ___

Re: Hello...

2006-02-22 Thread Charlie Bell
On Feb 22, 2006, at 2:56 PM, Steve Sloan wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: Hey chaps and chapesses, Thought I'd pop in to see how things are. So what's new in Brin-L land? Charlie Hey, Charlie, long time no see! Sir Steve of Sloan! Well, if you'd just turned on icq occasionally... I see

Re: unbelievable

2006-02-22 Thread Charlie Bell
On Feb 23, 2006, at 10:36 AM, d.brin wrote: On October 19th, 2001, former Halliburton CEO and now current sitting Vice President, Dick Cheney, christened a new term. Describing the curtailment of civil rights taken for granted by American citizens as the New Normalcy, Mr. Cheney was

Re: Semi-OTC Lasers

2006-02-23 Thread Charlie Bell
On Feb 24, 2006, at 12:15 AM, Robert G. Seeberger wrote: To be clear, these particular devices have *some* potential for misuse, but I expect that the next generation of devices that will come on the heels of cheaper devices of this generation will have capabilities that could be problematic

Re: Hello...

2006-02-24 Thread Charlie Bell
On Feb 25, 2006, at 5:42 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: On 2/21/06, Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 22, 2006, at 2:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would that be Oz-tentacious? Glad to see the standard of puns hasn't improved since I was last here (um... 3 years ago? $deity knows

Re: Hello...

2006-02-25 Thread Charlie Bell
On Feb 25, 2006, at 6:38 PM, Ritu wrote: Charlie wrote: Weirdest thing. Woke up by the side of the road somewhere, and it was 2006... This Monday I received a huge shock. Tuesday there was another shock lying in wait for me. By Tuesday evening I was hoping that the Universe pays

Re: Hello...

2006-02-25 Thread Charlie Bell
On Feb 26, 2006, at 11:27 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: Reggie Bautista wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: I have this really weird urge to be ontopic. I'm sure it'll pass... ;) Steve Sloan replied: On topic? What's that? ;-) So would now be a good time to ask if anyone's interested in doing

Re: Hello...

2006-02-26 Thread Charlie Bell
On Feb 27, 2006, at 2:02 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: William Taylor wrote: A reread of the Uplift Storm trilogy would be good if we can seperate out the chapters to do a flora and fauna bibliography. This would be useful for the next Jijo novel. This would be good for my monomaniacal

Re: Hello...

2006-02-26 Thread Charlie Bell
On Feb 27, 2006, at 11:43 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: This would be good for my monomaniacal timeline project. I am almost close to placing a calendar date in each Chapter of the Uplift Storm Trilogy :-) Hope it's the metric calendar... ;) It's Jijo's Calendar

Re: Hello

2006-02-28 Thread Charlie Bell
On Mar 1, 2006, at 7:52 AM, Jo Anne wrote: Hey all (waves at Charlie -- loved those trikeabout updates) Cool, glad you liked them. Strangely enough, I'm not riding the trike much (or at all) at the moment! And yeah, this break from politics is very nice. Could someone email me a

Re: The real thing (was Re: The Continuing Saga of BD...)

2006-03-02 Thread Charlie Bell
On Mar 3, 2006, at 3:43 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: Among my first words to him were, Thank you for serving, and Welcome home. I try to remember to say that to every vet I meet. Perhaps it seems absurd to thank people for serving in a war I oppose, but life is absurd. Good people serve, are

Re: Yeah, but how does it taste?

2006-03-08 Thread Charlie Bell
On Mar 9, 2006, at 4:00 AM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: New Animal Resembling Furry Lobster Found I have already begun a campaign to have its common name be Disco Crab. Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Isaac Hayes quits SouthPark over Scientology Ep

2006-03-14 Thread Charlie Bell
On Mar 15, 2006, at 6:25 AM, Max Battcher wrote: The episode in question completely angered many Scientologists. If you watch it, though, it really isn't all that scathing (nowhere near as mean and vicious as South Park has been to several varieties of Christian doctrine, such as more

Re: Irregulars Question: Network Attached Storage Drives

2006-03-17 Thread Charlie Bell
On Mar 18, 2006, at 10:18 AM, Horn, John wrote: Any of you have any experience with Network Attached Storage drives? I'm interested in finding one that is not too expensive, can be hooked into my router (which probably all of them can) and has a built in print server. Why the print server?

Re: Irregulars Question: Network Attached Storage Drives

2006-03-18 Thread Charlie Bell
On Mar 19, 2006, at 4:54 AM, Horn, John wrote: Why the print server? There are many printers now that sit directly on the network, HP make a couple with ethernet support (set one up for my other half's folks last week). Or get a router with the print server if you really need one. Netgear do a

Re: Irregulars Question: Network Attached Storage Drives

2006-03-19 Thread Charlie Bell
On Mar 19, 2006, at 11:30 PM, William T Goodall wrote: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0003QIFHG/103-9218007-6499853 Cheaper, bigger, has print server. What's the catch? Shit documentation... but other than that i dunno. Good spot. Charlie ___

Re: Is it just me....

2006-03-19 Thread Charlie Bell
On Mar 20, 2006, at 1:54 PM, Andrew Crystall wrote: Sure. Because then they'll come to America. And England. And other western counties. Who is *they*? Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Is it just me....

2006-03-20 Thread Charlie Bell
On Mar 21, 2006, at 6:38 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote: Iraq is to terrorists what a swamp is to mosquitos. We dry up the swamp - or at least some portion of it - by leaving. How much of a portion, however? Most of the groups active in Iraq have made it clear that they won't respect borders

Re: Is it just me....

2006-03-20 Thread Charlie Bell
On Mar 21, 2006, at 8:04 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote: ...and most of those groups aren't capable of operating beyond borders. They're bandits. That is...surmise. Possibly, but informed surmise... Certainly some of the current groups can't, but that doesn't mean that if they were willing

Re: Is it just me....

2006-03-20 Thread Charlie Bell
On Mar 21, 2006, at 9:33 AM, Dan Minette wrote: Obviously, this analysis tends to lead one to conclude that we can't just stay in Iraq. Yet, it isn't a call for a quick, immediate withdrawal. Rather, it seems to call for a transition from the US being the controlling force to Iraqi

Re: Is it just me....

2006-03-20 Thread Charlie Bell
Certainly some of the current groups can't, but that doesn't mean that if they were willing that certain other factions wouldn't be willing to pay for them to go to the great satan and do attacks Most, from what I understand from British soldiers I know (in real life), seem to just be

Re: Hello (hello, hello)

2006-03-20 Thread Charlie Bell
On Mar 21, 2006, at 11:07 AM, Dave Land wrote: Now you're just trying to make me angry. Midnight at the oasis Send your camel to bed Shadows paintin' our faces Traces of romance in our heads I'm sorry, but it's time I weighed in here, I've let you two go on long enough... Her name was

Re: Hello (hello, hello)

2006-03-20 Thread Charlie Bell
On Mar 21, 2006, at 2:35 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote: one two three four five six seven eight nine ten duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh one two three four five six seven eight niine ten ...eleven TWELVE!!! doo doo doo doo doo etc.

Re: Is it just me....

2006-03-20 Thread Charlie Bell
On Mar 21, 2006, at 3:35 PM, Dan Minette wrote: Or a couple of well-placed smart bombs from F-117s or B-2s, or covert special forces, if the US do the right thing and Iran don't. That's my point. THAT'S how to deal with the countries (insane dictatorships or otherwise) that present clear

Re: Is it just me....

2006-03-20 Thread Charlie Bell
On Mar 21, 2006, at 3:51 PM, David Hobby wrote: Personally, I think the best solution is to help Iraq turn into three separate countries in a peaceful manner. (One each for the Kurds, Sunnis and Shiites.) Chances are the Shia part would merge with Iran, and possibly the Sunni part with

Re: Hello (hello, hello)

2006-03-21 Thread Charlie Bell
On Mar 21, 2006, at 8:08 PM, Dave Land wrote: While we've focused on sappy songs here, I think there are whole areas of awfulness that we haven't even begun to plumb. Religio-Patriotic Tripe: - Courtesy of the Red White and Blue (The Angry American) by Toby Keith - God Bless the USA -

Re: Is it just me....

2006-03-21 Thread Charlie Bell
On Mar 21, 2006, at 11:03 PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: There is one official, ISO-something, way to transliterate arab characters into latin. Long ago it was Khad[d]af[f]i. Could've guess Mr Standards would know that... :D Thanks! You'd hate Cypriot restaurants, the menus are rarely the

Re: Fascist Censorship Spreads: AU Labor Party to Filter Internet at ISP

2006-03-21 Thread Charlie Bell
On Mar 22, 2006, at 11:02 AM, PAT MATHEWS wrote: And in the UK (lost the attribution) a boy of 13 was accused of statuatory rape for having consensual sex with a girl of 11-going- on-12. But in the UK the age of consent is 16. So if you're under 16, you can't give consent legally. So

Re: Dr. Demento (was Re: Hello (hello, hello))

2006-03-21 Thread Charlie Bell
On Mar 22, 2006, at 12:22 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: I was holding that one in reserve. Oh, well. (Or perhaps that should be Oh, shell.) Of course, there's always: Star Trekkin' across the universe, uh-huh.. well, I see that, with this... I just down from the Isle of Skye I'm no

Re: Is it just me....

2006-03-21 Thread Charlie Bell
On Mar 22, 2006, at 1:22 PM, Andrew Crystall wrote: Fourth, the Kurds effectively become semi-independent (because the central government was set up so as to allow tribal trouble at the drop of a hat, but let's no go there) and Turkey gets annoyed. Turkey then gives up on EU membership (since

Re: hardware suckz

2006-03-22 Thread Charlie Bell
On Mar 22, 2006, at 11:07 PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: My backup HD seems to be corrupted under game mode [Windows XP], giving an error message [in Portuguese] that probably translates to: Data error (cyclic redundancy check) It's a MAXTOR, and it is functional in Linux. I _may_ have hit

Re: hardware suckz

2006-03-22 Thread Charlie Bell
On Mar 23, 2006, at 12:00 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: Is there any way to recover the HD for Windows XP without FR? Spinrite might do it, it's a dos thing. Don't have a copy handy unfortunately, my windows stuff is all in Cyprus (and I'm in Oz still with my iBook

Re: Fascist Censorship Spreads: AU Labor Party to Filter Internet at ISP

2006-03-22 Thread Charlie Bell
On Mar 23, 2006, at 12:20 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: The laws in the US vary from state to state. Texas does something fairly reasonable -- I've forgotten the age of consent, but if one person is on one side and the other is on the other side, if the difference in ages is a certain

Re: Is it just me....

2006-03-22 Thread Charlie Bell
On Mar 23, 2006, at 8:29 AM, Dan Minette wrote: They would still be unlikely to get EU membership if they kept on progressingeven to the point of treating their ethnic minorities better than they are treated elsewhere in the EU. If they joined the EU, then Turks would have the same

Re: Hello (hello, hello)

2006-03-22 Thread Charlie Bell
On Mar 23, 2006, at 1:38 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Nights in white satin, No, you're wrong. Wrong wrong wrong. This is the correct Justin Hayward: The summer sun is fading as the year grows old And darker days are drawing near. The winter winds will be much colder Now you're not here. I

Re: Is it just me....

2006-03-22 Thread Charlie Bell
On Mar 23, 2006, at 2:25 PM, Dan Minette wrote: There'll be a lag on free movement/employment like there is with some of the recent members. This is going to be a 20 year process at least. Ah, I didn't know about the lag for recent members. Thanks for the correction. I looked at the EU

Re: Is it just me....

2006-03-22 Thread Charlie Bell
On Mar 23, 2006, at 2:29 PM, David Hobby wrote: I'd even propose that partition into separate countries should be the default for groups with separate languages. That's England into about 4 countries (and full separation for Wales and Scotland), and the US into at least a couple (you can't

Re: Hello (hello, hello)

2006-03-22 Thread Charlie Bell
On Mar 23, 2006, at 5:24 PM, Dave Land wrote: The summer sun is fading as the year grows old And darker days are drawing near. The winter winds will be much colder Now you're not here. 50 points to anyone other than Charlie who can name the album. That's rather generous on this list

Re: Hello (hello, hello)

2006-03-22 Thread Charlie Bell
On Mar 23, 2006, at 5:53 PM, Russell Chapman wrote: 50 points to anyone other than Charlie who can name the album. Dave Drawing a green mist behind him Land But this is Forever Autumn from the War of the Worlds Surely... See, said it was easy. Have 50 of Dave's points... ...and don't

Re: Christians

2006-03-23 Thread Charlie Bell
On Mar 23, 2006, at 5:58 PM, Dave Land wrote: As long as we're slinging lyrics around, a friend sent me the following poem. I wish some of the fundies I've been dealing with recently thought that way... :-) Charlie ___

Re: Christians

2006-03-23 Thread Charlie Bell
On Mar 24, 2006, at 5:07 AM, Dave Land wrote: On Mar 23, 2006, at 1:58 AM, Charlie Bell wrote: On Mar 23, 2006, at 5:58 PM, Dave Land wrote: As long as we're slinging lyrics around, a friend sent me the following poem. I wish some of the fundies I've been dealing with recently thought

Re: Hello (hello, hello)

2006-03-23 Thread Charlie Bell
On Mar 24, 2006, at 9:27 AM, Dave Land wrote: From the official web site, some outrageous hype: Jeff Wayne's musical adaptation of H. G. Wells' classic novel /The War Of The Worlds/ is the best known and best selling musical work of all time. s/musical work/musical adaptation of

Re: Hello (hello, hello)

2006-03-24 Thread Charlie Bell
On Mar 24, 2006, at 11:52 AM, Dave Land wrote: Of course, that's until the music hall revue style Startide Rising, featuring the classic numbers Swimming in a metal sea, Sometimes it seems like the whole universe is out to get us and My what big teeth you have (for a dolphin). Yeah,

Re: Seti at Home

2006-03-25 Thread Charlie Bell
On Mar 26, 2006, at 11:27 AM, Robert Seeberger wrote: Jo Anne wrote: Did anyone else get an email from [EMAIL PROTECTED] asking to participate in BOINC? We used to have a Brinellers group set up by Charlie Bell, IIRC. Thought on any of this anyone? Anyone? The Brinnellers is still

Re: Seti at Home

2006-03-26 Thread Charlie Bell
On Mar 27, 2006, at 6:02 AM, Robert Seeberger wrote: Eh? I was talking about administrating the group. You don't need to be running Boinc or Setiathome to do that. It's just a webpage that wants a password. Or is it? Yes, probably. What I neglected to say is that I'm too busy to look just

Re: Charlie's Partnership

2006-03-28 Thread Charlie Bell
On Mar 28, 2006, at 12:03 AM, Ray Ludenia wrote: On 27/03/2006, at 11:37 AM, Jo Anne wrote: Charlie Bell Wrote: our Partner Application Visa in before I have to leave... Jeez, Charlie, did you think I was gonna let that one go? I thought you weren't a couple. Did I miss something

Re: Charlie's Partnership

2006-03-28 Thread Charlie Bell
On Mar 27, 2006, at 12:37 PM, Jo Anne wrote: Charlie Bell Wrote: our Partner Application Visa in before I have to leave... Jeez, Charlie, did you think I was gonna let that one go? I thought you weren't a couple. Did I miss something? (Not that *that* would be unusual...) We've had

News

2006-03-28 Thread Charlie Bell
Right, we've been getting some questions about what's been going on so here we go. Claire and I did sort of split up for a while, after some frustrating little problems, like some miles, or about 12,500 of them. Our close friends know the ins-and-outs. But we stayed constant friends and

Re: News

2006-03-28 Thread Charlie Bell
On Mar 29, 2006, at 5:06 AM, Dave Land wrote: Thank you for sharing your story with us. I suppose that the rest of the list knows you much better than I do, so I appreciated learning a little more about you and your peregrinations, both personal and geographical. Yeah, I first joined

Re: News

2006-03-28 Thread Charlie Bell
Yeah, I first joined Brin-L in about 1874 I think. (1997? '98? Steve S or Rich B will know) and was a fairly prolific contributor for a while. Wandered off for a bit and was busy in other parts of the 'net and real life 'til recently when I thought hmmm, 'bout time that Brin wrote more Uplift

Re: Charlie's News

2006-03-28 Thread Charlie Bell
On Mar 29, 2006, at 9:42 AM, Jo Anne wrote: Charlie! A Married Man Congratulations! Knowing the little I do about you, she must be some sort of woman =+)) I have checked, and I can say with a reasonable degree of certainty, knowing what I do about zoology and cladistics, that

Re: News

2006-03-28 Thread Charlie Bell
On Mar 29, 2006, at 12:15 PM, Russell Chapman wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: Second, we get married and make honest peoples of each other. So we are. I'm going back to Cyprus, we'll try to file a prospective marriage visa within a couple of weeks, and hopefully this'll be the last

Brin: Re: Kiln people fixes?

2006-03-31 Thread Charlie Bell
On Mar 31, 2006, at 12:03 AM, d.brin wrote: A quick appeal to any nitpickers out there who spotted errors in KILN PEOPLE. ...the uk version seemed to have a stupid apostrophe added... This irritated me so much that I was unable to buy it. Annoying, 'cause I was really looking forward

Re: Another study show cell-phone tumor link

2006-04-03 Thread Charlie Bell
On Apr 4, 2006, at 4:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The word anaplastic is always bad. By far the best brain tumor to have is Juvenile Pilocytic Astrocytoma of the cerebellum. Might I suggest that least worst might be a better descriptive ranking when talking about tumours? Charlie

Re: Timing's Everything

2006-04-04 Thread Charlie Bell
On Apr 5, 2006, at 7:24 AM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: On Wednesday, at two minutes and three seconds after 1:00 in the morning, the time and date will be 01:02:03 04/05/06. You're wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. That doesn't happen 'til the 4th May. :p Charlie

Headless Clones One Step Closer

2006-04-05 Thread Charlie Bell
US scientists have successfully grown fully functioning bladders in the lab, and implanted them into patients with bladder disease. They hope the breakthrough could signal a new era in which a wide range of organs can be grown in the lab. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4875244.stm (I

Re: Timing's Everything

2006-04-06 Thread Charlie Bell
On Apr 6, 2006, at 8:48 AM, Doug Pensinger wrote: How do you _say_ the date? I think most of the time we'll say it's April fifth when responding to the question what's today's date? though the fifth of April is probably a not too distant second. Fifth, April would be a rare response.

Re: Former Head Of Star Wars Program Says Cheney Main 9/11 Suspect

2006-04-07 Thread Charlie Bell
On 08/04/2006, at 3:41 AM, Robert G. Seeberger wrote: A mainstay of the attack pieces against Charlie Sheen have been that he is not credible enough to speak on the topic of 9/11. These charges are ridiculed by the fact that Sheen is an expert on 9/11 who spends hours a day meticulously

Re: Former Head Of Star Wars Program Says Cheney Main 9/11 Suspect

2006-04-08 Thread Charlie Bell
On 08/04/2006, at 4:13 AM, Robert Seeberger wrote: During your absence I have posted several articles of this sort that question the factual nature of the Official 911 story. I find the subject, crazy or not, to be fascinating. It was that there was no other mention of Charlie Sheen. The

Re: Tales From Earthsea.........Anime!!!!!

2006-04-09 Thread Charlie Bell
On 09/04/2006, at 9:29 AM, Damon Agretto wrote: Brin should be shopping his wares at Pixar or Dreamworks. Can you anime fans imagine how much better The Postman would have been as an Anime OVA? If it was from those two studios, it wouldn't really be anime then, would it? No. It would

Re: Tales From Earthsea.........Anime!!!!!

2006-04-10 Thread Charlie Bell
On 10/04/2006, at 7:00 AM, Dan Minette wrote: But I do agree that Startide is far more likely to work as an animated or largely animated feature. (Might work in the Babe style, mind...) You mean with a starship run by pigs? I'm not so sure. Link Hogthrob, Miss Piggy and Dr Strangepork

Re: Great Sam Harris Interview

2006-04-11 Thread Charlie Bell
On 11/04/2006, at 6:33 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: He also seems to fail to recognize the difference between irrational and non-rational beliefs. And this statement, Religious moderation is just a cherry-picking of scripture, ultimately, is ridiculous. It implies that fundamentalism is

Re: Great Sam Harris Interview

2006-04-11 Thread Charlie Bell
On 12/04/2006, at 12:33 AM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Faith in a deity/deities/force/whatever is one thing. It's highly personal. But faith in a book is something else, and that's where the argument starts - if the book says one thing, but a follower disagrees and does something else, where's

Re: Great Sam Harris Interview

2006-04-12 Thread Charlie Bell
On 12/04/2006, at 1:31 AM, Dave Land wrote: One view -- a minority view in Christianity -- is that the Bible is a human product, not a divine one. Or that it is a divine one but with the errors inherent in human transcription, which is a similar but distinct position to the one that

Re: Great Sam Harris Interview

2006-04-12 Thread Charlie Bell
On 12/04/2006, at 1:57 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: I have discussed religion with a number of Lutherans other than Nick (mainly Germanic Europeans, either in Cyprus or in Australia), and all bar one of those still practicing that I have met in the flesh (so 6 or 7) are biblical literalists. Are

Re: Great Sam Harris Interview

2006-04-12 Thread Charlie Bell
On 12/04/2006, at 3:55 AM, Dan Minette wrote: Non-fundamentalists Protestants (including a number of Evangelical Christians I know) agree that inspiration is not dictation. One common theme, which I think you agree with, is that literalism puts God in a box that is far too small. That

Re: Great Sam Harris Interview

2006-04-12 Thread Charlie Bell
On 12/04/2006, at 4:18 AM, Dan Minette wrote: If one is Christian, then the Incarnate Word of God (Jesus) has the greatest authority. Precisely what I was taught. I never met someone who was really a literalist concerning the whole of scriptures.they just don't count their

Re: Great Sam Harris Interview

2006-04-12 Thread Charlie Bell
On 12/04/2006, at 7:45 AM, Dan Minette wrote: I was saying that social, political and economic conditions in the Middle East have created an environment favorable to recruiting terrorists by demagogues. My point was to argue against focusing on religion as the reason there are

Re: Great Sam Harris Interview

2006-04-12 Thread Charlie Bell
On 12/04/2006, at 8:59 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: One answer is that if there really is a God, you could try asking Him what He wants you to do . . . Sure. Like I say, it's highly personal. Of course, it's possible that the answer you get will be RTF¹M . . . Now there's a good shortcut

Re: Great Sam Harris Interview

2006-04-12 Thread Charlie Bell
On 12/04/2006, at 7:09 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: In Lutheranism and most of Protestantism, Christianity isn't about doing good in order to get into heaven, even though that's often how it comes across. That I know - I was raised C of E, and was heavily involved in Christian fellowship

Re: Great Sam Harris Interview

2006-04-12 Thread Charlie Bell
On 12/04/2006, at 10:17 PM, Jim Sharkey wrote: The Fool wrote: I believe only in the purity of math. Everything else is nonsense. Humans are fundamentelly evil creatures who deserve to die. You must be great fun at parties. *snort* Lucky I wasn't drinking just then. :D Charlie

Re: Great Sam Harris Interview

2006-04-12 Thread Charlie Bell
On 12/04/2006, at 10:01 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Of course, it's possible that the answer you get will be RTF¹M . . . Now there's a good shortcut to atheism. :-) Not necessarily, if as some have suggested the Bible is a record of God's dealings with other humans. Then it might

Re: Great Sam Harris Interview

2006-04-12 Thread Charlie Bell
Sure. But, I guess you're just as likely to find that smiting and stoning is recommended as a solution as kiss-and-make-up is... That's when it is advisable to request further light and knowledge in the form of another hint . . . Lord, what sort of rock should I lob at his head? ;)

Re: Huzzah for chocolate milk

2006-04-12 Thread Charlie Bell
On 13/04/2006, at 1:24 AM, Matthew and Julie Bos wrote: Matthew If you run 25 miles a week, you can eat what you want. And if you cycle 60 miles a day for 6 months, you can have trouble eating enough... Charlie ___

Re: Huzzah for chocolate milk

2006-04-13 Thread Charlie Bell
On 13/04/2006, at 2:17 AM, Dave Land wrote: On Apr 12, 2006, at 3:27 PM, Charlie Bell wrote: On 13/04/2006, at 1:24 AM, Matthew and Julie Bos wrote: Matthew If you run 25 miles a week, you can eat what you want. And if you cycle 60 miles a day for 6 months, you can have trouble

Re: Huzzah for chocolate milk

2006-04-13 Thread Charlie Bell
On 14/04/2006, at 3:16 AM, Dave Land wrote: On Apr 13, 2006, at 1:53 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: Matthew and Julie Bos wrote: On 4/12/06 4:04 PM, Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I read about this a couple of weeks ago and started to drink more of the stuff. Like I need more

Re: Linux suckz

2006-04-15 Thread Charlie Bell
On 16/04/2006, at 2:57 AM, maru dubshinki wrote: At the risk of shocking the more tenderminded persons in the audience, I must confess that my chosen window manager is ratpoison. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratpoison When I need a program that doesn't quite fit the ratpoison paradigm, I

Re: Linux suckz

2006-04-15 Thread Charlie Bell
On 16/04/2006, at 4:48 AM, Charlie Bell wrote: On 16/04/2006, at 2:57 AM, maru dubshinki wrote: At the risk of shocking the more tenderminded persons in the audience, I must confess that my chosen window manager is ratpoison. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratpoison When I need a program

Re: three paradigm shifts?

2006-04-18 Thread Charlie Bell
On 18/04/2006, at 11:59 PM, Deborah Harrell wrote: That is extemely interesting. For whatever reason, I never thought of it. Well, it's not exactly my original thinking; 'be the leader' is the big theme in current horsemanship training, and has been important in dog training for a while.

Re: The Gospel Of Judas

2006-04-18 Thread Charlie Bell
On 19/04/2006, at 12:53 AM, Deborah Harrell wrote: But I have problems with the 'planned betrayal,' as this makes Judas a stool pigeon, and God an underhanded schemer. Indeed, it brings to mind the entire Garden bit as another planned betrayal. Precisely. It's yet more of why this loving

Re: three paradigm shifts?

2006-04-19 Thread Charlie Bell
On 19/04/2006, at 1:41 AM, Dave Land wrote: That variant spelling of extrovert only finds 236,000 pages on Google. Spot on, William. I searched for introvert OR intravert vs extravert OR extrovert and came up with closer, but still skewed results: intr(o|a)vert: 2,470,000

Re: Blog of interest

2006-04-19 Thread Charlie Bell
On 19/04/2006, at 5:13 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: http://goodmath.blogspot.com/ He welcomes clarifications and corrections. A favourite of mine. His explanations of the vacuity of Dembski's bad maths often amuse. Charlie ___

Re: three paradigm shifts?

2006-04-19 Thread Charlie Bell
On 19/04/2006, at 3:37 PM, Jim Sharkey wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: And people ask why I chose Australia for my big solo rip... no large terrestrial maneaters is a good reason I feel! (s about the crocs and sharks... ;) ) But doesn't Oz have, what, nine out of the ten most poisonous

Re: Article: Software tracks mood swings of blogosphere

2006-04-22 Thread Charlie Bell
On 23/04/2006, at 12:28 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: People blame communication issues on Mercury being retrograde. And they're stupid or ignorant people. FFS. Like the sodding Mars closest appoach mails that go round every couple of years... mars will appear to be the same size as the

Re: Article: Software tracks mood swings of blogosphere

2006-04-23 Thread Charlie Bell
On 23/04/2006, at 5:44 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: On 23/04/2006, at 12:28 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: People blame communication issues on Mercury being retrograde. And they're stupid or ignorant people. FFS. I just don't get the whole astrology thing. It makes

Re: Article: Software tracks mood swings of blogosphere

2006-04-24 Thread Charlie Bell
On 24/04/2006, at 4:01 PM, Klaus Stock wrote: People blame communication issues on Mercury being retrograde. And they're stupid or ignorant people. FFS. I just don't get the whole astrology thing. It makes absolutely no sense when you consider the pairs of identical twins that were born

Re: Optimism for the USA

2006-04-27 Thread Charlie Bell
On 27/04/2006, at 1:13 PM, Klaus Stock wrote: inspired later Muslim philosophers and theologians. For example, the Brethren of Sincerity (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brethren_of_Sincerity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Encyclopedia_of_the_Brethren_of_Sincerity - full disclosure:

Re: Optimism for the USA

2006-04-27 Thread Charlie Bell
On 28/04/2006, at 12:39 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: I'm no fan of the God is in control of everything way of thinking. When a child dies, God must have needed another angel is a fairly horrible idea. On that we agree. It was his time to go is a phrase I would never use regarding Wes'

Re: Br!n-L anniversary date

2006-04-28 Thread Charlie Bell
On 28/04/2006, at 10:16 AM, Russell Chapman wrote: I happened to be looking for an old email in my mail folders when I came across some stuff I had saved from mid 1996 from the list. I know we went through all this 5 years ago, but I can't remember - did we ever determine when the list

Re: Optimism for the USA

2006-04-29 Thread Charlie Bell
On 28/04/2006, at 2:06 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: On 4/27/06, Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... It says nothing about God grieving. Jesus wept. That's God grieving, in my book. A man crying over the news of another man's death is not surprising (or, indeed, because he'd been

Re: Myers-Briggs

2006-05-05 Thread Charlie Bell
On 06/05/2006, at 1:53 AM, Dan Minette wrote: stuff Given that I so often disagree with Dan on many things, I think it only fair to chip in that I was lurking on this one too, and he has basically said what I would've... :) So, where are we wrong this time? Charlie

Re: Myers-Briggs

2006-05-07 Thread Charlie Bell
On 07/05/2006, at 3:37 PM, Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Fool, I'm just curious. Most of the articles you post are ones claiming that there are problems with this, that, and the other. Can you give us some examples of something concrete (not abstractions

Re: Myers-Briggs

2006-05-07 Thread Charlie Bell
On 07/05/2006, at 10:05 PM, Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro wrote: Charlie Bell escreveu: I'm no Fool, but he admires Windows 2000 and NTFS. I also think he admires one religion, fundamentalist atheism. *wry smile* How can one be fundamentalist to a lack of belief? By rejecting any

Re: Myers-Briggs

2006-05-07 Thread Charlie Bell
On 07/05/2006, at 10:40 PM, Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: *wry smile* How can one be fundamentalist to a lack of belief? By rejecting any possibility that God [or gods, or The Devil, etc] exists. So? Non-belief in the supernatural can't be fundamentalist

Re: Myers-Briggs

2006-05-07 Thread Charlie Bell
On 07/05/2006, at 10:49 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote: Alberto wrote: It might be a belief, it might even be strident and loudly held, but it's a slightly different class of belief. No, it's not, and this belief may have killed more people than all religions put together - you missed this

Re: Myers-Briggs

2006-05-07 Thread Charlie Bell
On 07/05/2006, at 11:53 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: I think militant atheism is a better description of the philosophy apparently espoused by The Fool. Certainly is. There is no text from which to be fundamentalist for atheism, as far as I know. Militant is a reasonably accurate

Re: Myers-Briggs

2006-05-07 Thread Charlie Bell
On 08/05/2006, at 12:28 AM, Dan Minette wrote: Well, then it's clearly possible to be an agnostic Christian by that definition. A significant fraction of Christians would be agnostics, by your definition...including me. Even our pastor, who is fairly Evangelical, agrees that there is no

Re: Brin: BASIC

2006-05-08 Thread Charlie Bell
On 08/05/2006, at 3:01 AM, The Fool wrote: http://davidbrin.blogspot.com/2006/05/age-of-miracles-wonder.html Only now it's insufficient. We'd like to make pixels move around on a simulated CRT screen. And we DON'T want to do it using high-level complex stuff like VISUAL BASIC. Old fashioned

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