Re: Frat boys? (was Re: Br!n: LotR and Conservatives)
Dan Minette wrote: At that time, Wisconsin frats were filled with guys who joined because beer was part of the frat costs. Like most stereotypes, the drunken frat boy has some basis in truth. Our chapter was no exception in that regard at times (including a night at McSorley's in NYC by yours truly of which I have only vague recollections), but most of the rest of the excesses you hear about weren't really an issue. That is, hazing was minimal, nobody made you drink if you didn't want to, we weren't all priveledged white boys (except for Hassan, whose father was the personal physician to the king of Morocco or some such), that kind of thing. Jim We have a national charity we raise a lot of money for, too Maru ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Frat boys? (was Re: Br!n: LotR and Conservatives)
Jim Pi Kappa Phi, Beta Alpha #569 Maru Heh. Damon, Chi Psi, Alpha Nu Delta #27 = Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. http://www.geocities.com/garrand.geo/index.html Now Building: __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Frat boys? (was Re: Br!n: LotR and Conservatives)
Damon Agretto wrote: Damon, Chi Psi, Alpha Nu Delta #27 At least I'm not alone! Where'd you go to school, Damon? Jim NJIT alum Maru ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Frat boys? (was Re: Br!n: LotR and Conservatives)
Damon Agretto wrote: At least I'm not alone! Where'd you go to school, Damon? Penn State I remember seeing our Penn State chapter at a regional meeting. Twenty white guys wearing khakis, blue oxford shirts, blue blazers and penny loafers. Talk about fitting the stereotype. :) Jim What a difference 250 miles and $100,000 in income makes Maru ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Frat boys? (was Re: Br!n: LotR and Conservatives)
At 01:01 PM 1/31/2004, you wrote: At least I'm not alone! Where'd you go to school, Damon? Penn State Damon Cool! Is it possible we are the first two list people to have attended the same college? (But I went to PS Harrisburg). Maybe not, I think the people who started the list were from Cornell, but as students or employees? Ever go to Snow Shoe, Lock Haven, or Renovo? If yes, I apologize. I was living in Bellefonte for two semesters working while two friends were going to school. I don't know how they graduated; way too many nights of 25 cent pitchers. At least I could go to work the next day and sit in the dark with sunglasses on. One of those friends were in a frat, and I dated a girl in a SO. Seemed pointless to me. Kevin T. - VRWC I don't belong to any groups that want me as a member ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Frat boys? (was Re: Br!n: LotR and Conservatives)
Cool! Is it possible we are the first two list people to have attended the same college? (But I went to PS Harrisburg). Well I was out at Main of course...started there as a Freshman... Ever go to Snow Shoe, Lock Haven, or Renovo? If yes, I apologize. Never went there. Never really left campus, except for down-town (where technically I lived while in the fraternity, but everywhere is PS there...) and to go to the Mall...and oh yeah to the Distributors. Why would anyone need to??? My DD gaming buddy graduated from Lock Haven. Still goes there for Homecoming. I remember looking at Lock Haven (on paper) when applying to schools, and wasn't impressed. Still, he's only a couple years older than I and makes much more money. Must have underestimated... frat, and I dated a girl in a SO. Seemed pointless to me. Probably were the wrong ones then... Damon. = Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. http://www.geocities.com/garrand.geo/index.html Now Building: __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Frat boys? (was Re: Br!n: LotR and Conservatives)
Kevin Tarr wrote: At 01:01 PM 1/31/2004, you wrote: At least I'm not alone! Where'd you go to school, Damon? Penn State Damon Cool! Is it possible we are the first two list people to have attended the same college? (But I went to PS Harrisburg). Maybe not, I think the people who started the list were from Cornell, but as students or employees? Um, I introduced Marvin to the list, and that was after I'd known him in college. In fact, maybe Marvin and I might have been the first two list people to have lived on the same floor of the same dorm in college? :) Julia gotta love those coed dorms -- nothing like hanging with geek guys in the study lounge after midnight ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Frat boys? (was Re: Br!n: LotR and Conservatives)
- Original Message - From: Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 8:05 PM Subject: Frat boys? (was Re: Br!n: LotR and Conservatives) Davd Brin wrote contemptuously of: Frat boys. What's wrong with being a frat boy? Isn't brotherhood, booze and the pursuit of babes what America is all about? :-) My experience is from an earlier time; the late '70s and early '80s, when women were told to not walk down frat row for fear of getting raped. At that time, Wisconsin frats were filled with guys who joined because beer was part of the frat costs. Women were actually told not to walk in front of the frat houses at night because several women were assulted by multiple men they couldn't recognize. Now, this was almost 25 years ago, when Banker workshop week was known in advance because all the film societies advertised porn the next week. After 25 years, I don't remember enough to know if reality was as bad as the stories, but they did seem credible at the time. Dan M. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Frat boys? (was Re: Br!n: LotR and Conservatives)
Damon Agretto wrote: Are you the guys nicknamed Skull? Not that I know of. Jim ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Frat boys? (was Re: Br!n: LotR and Conservatives)
Jim Sharkey wrote: Davd Brin wrote contemptuously of: Frat boys. What's wrong with being a frat boy? Isn't brotherhood, booze and the pursuit of babes what America is all about? :-) Jim Pi Kappa Phi, Beta Alpha #569 Maru Depends on where you went to school. Having gone to UT, I ended up with a fairly negative view of frat boys. (The alcohol-related deaths might have had something to do with that.) I've heard from people at other schools that not all frats are bad. I'll believe you if you say yours was good. :) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Frat boys? (was Re: Br!n: LotR and Conservatives)
Julia Thompson wrote: Jim Sharkey wrote: What's wrong with being a frat boy? Having gone to UT, I ended up with a fairly negative view of frat boys. (The alcohol-related deaths might have had something to do with that.) I've heard from people at other schools that not all frats are bad. I'll believe you if you say yours was good. :) Well, like any time you get a group of young guys together, there was good and bad. Our chapter was unique in some ways. A lot of fraternities tend towards a certain homogeneity; our chapter meetings looked like a UN gathering. For example, my two little brothers' parents were both off-the-boat, one from the Philippines, the other from Egypt. Jim Can still recite the Greek alphabet backwards Maru ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
