Re: Politeness

2012-11-25 Thread Warren Adams-Ockrassa
Having been watching from the sidelines, it's amazing how easy it is 
for me to decide whose voice is respectable and mature, and whose is 
childish and petulant, in this discussion. 


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RE: Politeness

2012-11-25 Thread Dan Minette
I would like to clarify one thing that I said and to comment on something
Johnathan Mann said.

I said:
  
 While self respect is critical, and one shouldn't put up a false front 
 to get respect, earning the respect of those who have achieved less 
 than you can be very beneficial.  

While I didn't want to complicate my reply at the time, I do want to take
this opportunity to say that in no way was I referring to how much Jon
achieved or hasn't achieved. I was referring to John Williams attitude.  The
only reason I would want to judge Jon's success would be if it were germain
to the discussion (e.g. I'd be more inclined to believe on of the Manning
brothers when they talk football than a guy who plays touch football once a
year. 

...is the fact that I refuse to sell out.  It would defeat the purpose of
why I run for office.  I 
don't just talk, I do the walk.   


This raises an interesting question.  Lincoln did things like appoint
incompetent generals knowingly, because they were supported by a political
faction he needed to keep the Union going.  Is doing things like arresting
the Maryland legislature on the way to vote for secession to keep the Union
together wrong?  In other words, if one holds onto principals without
compromise, one rarely changes how things are.  Those folks who we look back
at and see as being vital to the US did make those compromises. I don't
think that was selling out, it was having a sense of balance and priorities.

Dan M.


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Re: Politeness

2012-11-25 Thread John Williams
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Dan Minette danmine...@att.net wrote:
 While I didn't want to complicate my reply at the time, I do want to take
 this opportunity to say that in no way was I referring to how much Jon
 achieved or hasn't achieved.

Hilarious!

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Re: Politeness

2012-11-25 Thread John Williams
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Warren Adams-Ockrassa
war...@nightwares.com wrote:
 Having been watching from the sidelines, it's amazing how easy it is for me
 to decide whose voice is respectable and mature, and whose is childish and
 petulant, in this discussion.

If only it were also easy for you to post something of value, instead
of your opinion which is worthless.

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Re: Politeness

2012-11-25 Thread John Williams
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Jon Louis Mann
net_democr...@yahoo.com wrote:

 He assumes that I am not a successful politician because I have not won an 
 election.

Actually, no, that is not why I assume you are not successful.

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Re: Politeness

2012-11-25 Thread Nick Arnett
I read this as a personal attack, which is not permitted in this group.

Nick

On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 1:57 PM, John Williams jwilliams4...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Warren Adams-Ockrassa
 war...@nightwares.com wrote:
  Having been watching from the sidelines, it's amazing how easy it is for
 me
  to decide whose voice is respectable and mature, and whose is childish
 and
  petulant, in this discussion.

 If only it were also easy for you to post something of value, instead
 of your opinion which is worthless.

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Re: Politeness

2012-11-25 Thread Warren Adams-Ockrassa
Ooh, you're so precious when you squinch up your wittwe itty-bitty face 
and make your wittwe itty-bitty fists! I could num you right up! I 
could just eat you all up from your cute wittwe toes to your 
cute wittwe nose! Yes I could! Yes I could! Num num num num num!


But you're being a naughty-naughty, trying to take it off-list, little 
honey boo-boo. No no no. 

On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 14:18:20 -0800, John Williams 
jwilliams4...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Warren Adams-Ockrassa

war...@nightwares.com wrote:
 Aww, aren't you adorable? Here, honey, here's a wowwipop. 

Aww, aren't you good at passive aggressive insults? Here, suck on this. 





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Re: Politeness

2012-11-25 Thread Warren Adams-Ockrassa
I read it as more of a tantrum. But hey, potatoh, potahto. 


On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 14:42:37 -0800, Nick Arnett nick.arn...@gmail.com wrote:
I read this as a personal attack, which is not permitted in this group. 


Nick

On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 1:57 PM, John Williams 
jwilliams4...@gmail.com wrote:


  On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Warren Adams-Ockrassa
war...@nightwares.com wrote:
 Having been watching from the sidelines, it's amazing how easy it is for me
 to decide whose voice is respectable and mature, and whose is childish and
 petulant, in this discussion. 


If only it were also easy for you to post something of value, instead
of your opinion which is worthless. 


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Re: Politeness

2012-11-25 Thread Warren Adams-Ockrassa
On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 15:22:08 -0800, John Williams 
jwilliams4...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Warren Adams-Ockrassa

war...@nightwares.com wrote:

 But you're being a naughty-naughty, trying to take it off-list, 
little honey
 boo-boo. No no no. 


What did I write to you that I did not post to the list?




This. Check the headers. 


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On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Warren Adams-Ockrassa
 wrote:
Aww, aren't you adorable? Here, honey, here's a wowwipop. 


Aww, aren't you good at passive aggressive insults? Here, suck on this. 




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Re: Politeness

2012-11-24 Thread John Williams
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 6:47 PM, Jon Louis Mann net_democr...@yahoo.com wrote:
  It's not like he's some genius who doesn't suffer fools; that I would 
 respect.

It is not like you are a successful politician. Why would anyone care
about having your respect?

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RE: Politeness

2012-11-24 Thread Dan Minette

It is not like you are a successful politician. Why would anyone care about
having your respect?

I actually think this is a statement made in good faith.  IMHO, you would
grow if you were able to understand the answer to that question.  While self
respect is critical, and one shouldn't put up a false front to get respect,
earning the respect of those who have achieved less than you can be very
beneficial.  The reason why will be left as an exercise for the student. :-)

Dan M. 


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Re: Politeness

2012-11-24 Thread John Williams
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Dan Minette danmine...@att.net wrote:

 I actually think

I'm not so sure about that.

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