Re: Politicians

2012-11-23 Thread Kevin O'Brien
On 11/22/2012 4:32 PM, Charlie Bell wrote: It's hard to compete if one has a shred of ethics. This last US Presidential election astounded me as the Republican bubble was almost impenetrable, and the constant repeating of lies by the Romney/Ryan campaign far exceeded even my most cynical

Re: Politicians

2012-11-22 Thread John Horn
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Jon Louis Mann net_democr...@yahoo.com wrote: It is in my observation, as a politician, that MOST politicians are liars, and they tailor their promises for a target audience who will believe their rhetoric. I am not a liar, but that is probably why I have

Re: Politicians

2012-11-22 Thread Charlie Bell
On 23/11/2012, at 7:33 AM, John Horn anar...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Jon Louis Mann net_democr...@yahoo.com wrote: It is in my observation, as a politician, that MOST politicians are liars, and they tailor their promises for a target audience who will believe

Re: Politicians sell out again

2009-08-18 Thread sendai
On 12/08/2009, at 9:28 AM, Max Battcher wrote: Anyway, it's just a crazy thought experiment (that I created for use in a short story I never wrote) and I doubt that it would be easy to amend the Constitution to try it, but it might be something to play with at local or state levels and see

Re: Politicians sell out again

2009-08-12 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Aug 11, 2009, at 6:28 PM, Max Battcher wrote: On 8/11/2009 18:53, Trent Shipley wrote: More fundamental is his objection to the U.S. Government. In effect, he is saying that the U.S. system of government is inherently illegitimate, largely because it is run by politicians. By John

Re: Politicians sell out again

2009-08-12 Thread Nick Arnett
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 2:01 PM, John Williams jwilliams4...@gmail.comwrote: But I am not my brother's keeper. Seems odd that you would would say that, given that when Cain said, Am I my brother's keeper? he had just murdered his brother to steal his inheritance. I thought you were *against

Re: Politicians sell out again

2009-08-12 Thread John Williams
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Nick Arnettnick.arn...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 2:01 PM, John Williams jwilliams4...@gmail.com wrote:  But I am not my brother's keeper. Seems odd that you would would say that, given that when Cain said, Am I my brother's keeper? he had

Re: Politicians sell out again

2009-08-12 Thread Nick Arnett
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:24 AM, John Williams jwilliams4...@gmail.comwrote: It seems I have led you astray. I thought it was clear from the context (which you removed above), but I meant that literally. Feel free to replace it with I do not decide what others may or may not do. Ah, so

Re: Politicians sell out again

2009-08-12 Thread John Williams
Never argue with a pedant over nomenclature. It wastes your time and annoys the pedant. --Lois Bujold ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com

Re: Politicians sell out again

2009-08-12 Thread Nick Arnett
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:51 PM, John Williams jwilliams4...@gmail.comwrote: Never argue with a pedant over nomenclature. It wastes your time and annoys the pedant. I take it you are opposed to pedantically taking the meaning of literally literally? That was fun. Nick

Re: Politicians sell out again

2009-08-11 Thread Chris Frandsen
On Aug 10, 2009, at 8:40 PM, John Williams wrote: The politician pretends to be acting altruistically while still behaving in a self-serving manner. But the politicians take your money by force and THEN give it to the businesses. John: These two sentences are the problem with people

Re: Politicians sell out again

2009-08-11 Thread John Williams
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Chris Frandsenlear...@mac.com wrote:  Most of the politicians that I have personally met are not 'self-serving , rather they are making a great effort to serve. And they are good at tricking the naive into thinking that they are behaving altruistically... We

Re: Politicians sell out again

2009-08-11 Thread Chris Frandsen
You are joking! On Aug 11, 2009, at 11:22 AM, John Williams wrote: The politicians have better PR! ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com

Re: Politicians sell out again

2009-08-11 Thread Max Battcher
John Williams wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Chris Frandsenlear...@mac.com wrote: Most of the politicians that I have personally met are not 'self-serving , rather they are making a great effort to serve. And they are good at tricking the naive into thinking that they are behaving

Re: Politicians sell out again

2009-08-11 Thread John Williams
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Max Battcherm...@worldmaker.net wrote: What a sad, cynical worldview you live in. There's alway blissful fantasy to live in. Picture the livers in Nancy Kress's _Beggars in Spain_ series...although if our politicians were as honest as her donkeys, I might

Re: Politicians sell out again

2009-08-11 Thread Trent Shipley
Chris Frandsen wrote: On Aug 10, 2009, at 8:40 PM, John Williams wrote: The politician pretends to be acting altruistically while still behaving in a self-serving manner. But the politicians take your money by force and THEN give it to the businesses. John: These two sentences are

Re: Politicians sell out again

2009-08-11 Thread Max Battcher
On 8/11/2009 18:53, Trent Shipley wrote: More fundamental is his objection to the U.S. Government. In effect, he is saying that the U.S. system of government is inherently illegitimate, largely because it is run by politicians. By John William's standards ALL representative democracy is

Re: Politicians sell out again

2009-08-11 Thread Trent Shipley
Max Battcher wrote: On 8/11/2009 18:53, Trent Shipley wrote: More fundamental is his objection to the U.S. Government. In effect, he is saying that the U.S. system of government is inherently illegitimate, largely because it is run by politicians. By John William's standards ALL

Re: Politicians sell out again

2009-08-11 Thread John Williams
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Trent Shipleytship...@deru.com wrote:  The government of a sovereign state takes taxes by force.  Most of us believe that is right and necessary.  J.W. doesn't. Where did I state this view?  By John William's standards ALL representative democracy is

Re: Politicians sell out again

2009-08-10 Thread Chris Frandsen
John; I really dislike it when someone generalizes any group. The problem I have is with the continuous rant from the right that Everyone knows that ___ is incompetent(replace the blank with government, public schools or teachers etc) Please note that big business is never a

Re: Politicians sell out again

2009-08-10 Thread John Williams
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Chris Frandsenlear...@mac.com wrote: I suggest that rather rant in general that we begin a concerted effort to limit spending on campaigns and disallow TV and radio ads by any organization other than the candidates. Leave the newspapers and the internet open

Re: Politicians sell out again

2009-08-10 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 02:57 PM Monday 8/10/2009, Chris Frandsen wrote: John; I really dislike it when someone generalizes any group. The problem I have is with the continuous rant from the right that Everyone knows that ___ is incompetent(replace the blank with government, public schools or teachers etc)

Re: Politicians sell out again

2009-08-10 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 06:53 PM Monday 8/10/2009, Bruce Bostwick wrote: On Aug 10, 2009, at 5:57 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: No, the problem with _them_ is that they are _all too_ competent (at getting money for themselves). Any number of people have said (and editorial cartoonists have drawn cartoons

Re: Politicians sell out again

2009-08-10 Thread Chris Frandsen
Sorry but the rant against Wall Street and Big Business in general has never reached the level of the constant drum beat heard everywhere you turn about lawyers, politicians, school systems and government bureaucrats, etc. Of course the references to Government bureaucrats was dialed back

Re: Politicians sell out again

2009-08-10 Thread John Williams
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Bruce Bostwicklihan161...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I'd go somewhat farther and say that the Wall Street culture institutionalizes and rationalizes greed as a virtue, if not a sacrament.  (Greed is good.  Greed works.) One of the differences between a politician

Re: politicians are evil, why they must be eradicated

2002-11-25 Thread Reggie Bautista
Alberto wrote: Politics is crazy But it sure makes life interesting, no? Reggie Bautista Sig added to keep this from being a one-line reply _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*.

Re: politicians are evil, why they must be eradicated

2002-11-25 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 06:47:48PM -0600, Reggie Bautista wrote: Reggie Bautista Sig added to keep this from being a one-line reply Not necessary, Microsoft takes care of that for you... _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8.

Re: politicians are evil, why they must be eradicated

2002-11-25 Thread Reggie Bautista
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