Re: Wikileaks?

2010-12-07 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Or maybe it's everyone and their dog trying to access their new Facebook profile page: (...) Why do people join Facebook, when it's owned by sociopaths and perverts? Alberto Monteiro ___

Re: Wikileaks?

2010-12-07 Thread Dave Land
On Dec 7, 2010, at 3:44 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Or maybe it's everyone and their dog trying to access their new Facebook profile page: (...) Why do people join Facebook, when it's owned by sociopaths and perverts? Well, of course the sociopaths and perverts to which you refer are not

Re: Wikileaks

2010-12-06 Thread Charlie Bell
On 06/12/2010, at 8:46 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 3:29 PM, trent shipley trent.ship...@gmail.com wrote: How many secrets does Australia have that are worth leaking. Does a significant fraction of the World's population believe it is The Great Satan? Reminds me of

Re: Wikileaks

2010-12-06 Thread Charlie Bell
On 02/12/2010, at 10:29 AM, trent shipley wrote: How many secrets does Australia have that are worth leaking. Does a significant fraction of the World's population believe it is The Great Satan? They released the list of blacklisted domains that was itself secret... stupid policy.

Re: Wikileaks?

2010-12-06 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 08:06 PM Monday 12/6/2010, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: Is someone running a DDoS attack on Wikileaks tonight (US time)? I'm getting a lot more slow and dropped connections on the Web tonight than usual, so I wondered if it's all over the Net or just here . . . Or maybe it's everyone and

Re: Wikileaks

2010-12-05 Thread trent shipley
The Manhattan Project was spied on by the Soviets. On Dec 1, 2010 4:18 AM, Alberto Monteiro albm...@centroin.com.br wrote: Doug Pensinger wrote: I'm generally for transparency and haven't heard of anything yet that ... I think the worst source of embarassment is the use by .govs of

Re: Wikileaks

2010-12-05 Thread trent shipley
How many secrets does Australia have that are worth leaking. Does a significant fraction of the World's population believe it is The Great Satan? On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Wayne Eddy darkenf...@gmail.com wrote: It is interesting to hear that there is overwhelming sentiment against

Re: Wikileaks

2010-12-05 Thread Nick Arnett
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 3:29 PM, trent shipley trent.ship...@gmail.comwrote: How many secrets does Australia have that are worth leaking. Does a significant fraction of the World's population believe it is The Great Satan? Reminds me of the story of the lady who was applying for a visa to

Re: WikiLeaks

2010-12-02 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Dec 2, 2010, at 7:51 AM, Jon Louis Mann wrote: Having consensual sex in Sweden without a condom is punishable by a term of imprisonment of a minimum of two years for rape. That strikes me as very strange indeed. is there more to that law than that? Does this apply only to extramarital

Re: Wikileaks

2010-12-01 Thread Charlie Bell
On 01/12/2010, at 3:51 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote: There seems to be overwhelming sentiment against Wikileaks' release of confidential documents and I was wondering how people here (some of whom may have read Brin's Transparent Society) felt about it. Judging by how they do it - letting the

Re: Wikileaks

2010-12-01 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Doug Pensinger wrote: I'm generally for transparency and haven't heard of anything yet that is beyond mildly embarrassing to the U. S. government. I do think where the safety of our troops is concerned confidentially is important, but that government secrets should have a relatively short

RE: Wikileaks

2010-12-01 Thread Dan Minette
What if this happened 70 years ago and Manhattan Project was leaked to the nazis (or even the soviets)? It was leaked to the Soviets. While Joe McCarthy was able to find 100% of the communist activists working for the Soviet Union in the United States (names kept in his locked briefcase),

Re: Wikileaks

2010-12-01 Thread Wayne Eddy
It is interesting to hear that there is overwhelming sentiment against Wikileaks in the US. From the comments I have read on newspaper articles about Wikileaks here in Australia, I would think a majority of people here (maybe about 75%) are supportive. Personally, I think there is good and bad

Re: Wikileaks

2010-12-01 Thread Damon Agretto
I don't know; I think it still remains to be seen if the good outweighs the bad. While so far the damage to the US appears to be fairly light, I have to wonder about the damage done to US allies and other countries across the globe. I'm sure the Yemeni president (who has been allegedly lying to

RE: Wikileaks

2010-12-01 Thread Dan Minette
I'm generally for transparency and haven't heard of anything yet that is beyond mildly embarrassing to the U. S. government. I do think where the safety of our troops is concerned confidentially is important, but that government secrets should have a relatively short shelf life in all cases.

Re: Wikileaks

2010-12-01 Thread Matt Grimaldi
. -- Matt From: Wayne Eddy darkenf...@gmail.com To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Wed, December 1, 2010 12:12:23 PM Subject: Re: Wikileaks It is interesting to hear that there is overwhelming sentiment against Wikileaks

Re: WikiLeaks

2010-12-01 Thread Doug Pensinger
Jon wrote: Anyone with clearance to that level is personally responsible and signed an oath. 23-year-old, Bradley Manning, a US army intelligence analyst, e-mailed former hacker, Adrian Lamo, bragging that he leaked the diplomatic cables to WikiLeaks, along with a highly classified video

Re: WikiLeaks

2010-12-01 Thread Charlie Bell
On 02/12/2010, at 3:23 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote: Jon wrote: Anyone with clearance to that level is personally responsible and signed an oath. 23-year-old, Bradley Manning, a US army intelligence analyst, e-mailed former hacker, Adrian Lamo, bragging that he leaked the diplomatic cables