Re: [BRLTTY] NavRowKey on Focus 40

2019-10-05 Thread S. Massy
On Sat, Oct 05, 2019 at 10:08:37PM -0400, Dave Mielke wrote: > So the firmware version seems to match the edition number. I think I'll go > with > firmware versino 3 still having them and firmware version 4 no longer having > them. Seems like a reasonable assumption. S.M. -- Sebastien Massy

Re: [BRLTTY] NavRowKey on Focus 40

2019-10-05 Thread Dave Mielke
[quoted lines by S. Massy on 2019/10/05 at 21:57 -0400] >They certainly don't make it easy, but I found a manual describing a >Focus 40 with a micro USB port (the 5th gen has a USB C port) and it >makes no mention of NavRow keys, so my guess would be they weren't >present on the 4th generation.

Re: [BRLTTY] NavRowKey on Focus 40

2019-10-05 Thread S. Massy
On Sat, Oct 05, 2019 at 09:26:40PM -0400, Dave Mielke wrote: > That'd mean at least firmware version 3 (at which point the extended keys > packet is sent). I hope we can tell the edition by the firmware version. If > you > run brltty with -linfo (or, if you want, -ldebug), you should find a log

Re: [BRLTTY] NavRowKey on Focus 40

2019-10-05 Thread Dave Mielke
[quoted lines by S. Massy on 2019/10/05 at 21:17 -0400] >The manual describes a Focus 40, so 40 cells without mention of >dedicated extra status cells. The controls described all match those >found on the 5th generation except for the navrow keys and what is >rather funnily named WHIZWHEELS

Re: [BRLTTY] NavRowKey on Focus 40

2019-10-05 Thread S. Massy
On Sat, Oct 05, 2019 at 08:57:22PM -0400, Dave Mielke wrote: > And, back then, we didn't have the capability to automatically generate, let > alone easily manually maintain, model-specific key tables. in the even older > days we didn't even have key tables - the bindings were hard-coded within

Re: [BRLTTY] NavRowKey on Focus 40

2019-10-05 Thread S. Massy
On Sat, Oct 05, 2019 at 08:16:03PM -0400, Dave Mielke wrote: > > This is always a bit of a problem when we don't get access to each updated > model. Way too expensive for poor folks like us. :-) Indeed, that's one big challenge for a project like BRLTTY which aims to support devices which are

Re: [BRLTTY] NavRowKey on Focus 40

2019-10-05 Thread Dave Mielke
[quoted lines by S. Massy on 2019/10/05 at 20:04 -0400] >I found an old manual dating from 2009 which makes mention of navrow >keys above the routing keys; this must have been for the original Focus >Blue line. There is no mention of these keys in the manual available on >the Freedom Scientific

Re: [BRLTTY] Windows First Run

2019-10-05 Thread Dave Mielke
[quoted lines by Chevelle on 2019/10/05 at 17:49 -0400] >I suspect that the 6.0 release doesn't work on Windows 10, Why not? It certainly should. Did you try and it didn't work for you? If so, do you know the most recent earlier release that did work on Windows 10? -- I believe the Bible to

Re: [BRLTTY] Windows First Run

2019-10-05 Thread Chevelle
Search for brltty.exe and see if it was installed. There is also a file called run-debug.bat which should produce a log file.  I suspect that the 6.0 release doesn't work on Windows 10, but somebody may have better results. On 10/4/2019 6:32 PM, Oriana Neulinger wrote: Hi, I'm trying

Re: [BRLTTY] NavRowKey on Focus 40

2019-10-05 Thread S. Massy
On Sat, Oct 05, 2019 at 03:27:09PM -0400, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by S. Massy on 2019/10/05 at 14:47 -0400] > > >I see references to NavRowKey and am not sure which key that might be. > > It's the extra (second) row of "routing" keys further back. I don't think there is any such thing

Re: [BRLTTY] NavRowKey on Focus 40

2019-10-05 Thread Dave Mielke
[quoted lines by S. Massy on 2019/10/05 at 14:47 -0400] >I see references to NavRowKey and am not sure which key that might be. It's the extra (second) row of "routing" keys further back. -- I believe the Bible to be the very Word of God: http://Mielke.cc/bible/ Dave Mielke| 2213

[BRLTTY] NavRowKey on Focus 40

2019-10-05 Thread S. Massy
Hello, Finally getting comfortable with the Focus 40 and it's starting to grow on me. Going through the BRLTTY help for this display, I see references to NavRowKey and am not sure which key that might be. I know of Left/Right Nav Up/Down and Left/Right NavPress but not sure what NavRowKey is.