Re: [BRLTTY] LibLouis support.

[Devin Prater]

I have Liblouis installed, but I haven't seen the tables in BRLTTY
though. I’d just have the Liblouis tables in the text tables. Maybe
enable Grade Two input using those Liblouis tables, as Narrator has.
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Dave Mielke  writes:

> The latest development code now supports LibLouis. In order to include this 
> support you'll need to ensure that LibLouis's development package is 
> installed 
> on your system.
>
> The -c command line option, as well as the contraction-table brltty.conf 
> directive, can be used to specify a LibLouis table. Simply prefix the 
> LibLouis 
> table's file name with louis:, for example: louis:en-us-g2.ctb
>
> As always, please let us know what isn't working, as well as what can be done 
> to improve this feature.
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Re: [BRLTTY] a couple of questions for linux users

[Devin Prater]

I’m fairly sure it’s a BRLTTY issue, but since many users of BRLTTY use it only 
in the console, we may have to work extra hard to get it working well in the 
desktop.

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From: kendell lee clark
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 2:00 PM
To: Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY.
Subject: [BRLTTY] a couple of questions for linux users

Hi all
I can’t remember if I’ve brought this up before, but I now use a duel boot 
setup between antergos Linux and fedora. I’ve had a lot of requests, mostly by 
devin prater, to investigate braille input on Linux. The results are … not 
disappointing exactly but … it’s rather fiddly to get going. Here’s how I’d 
like braille to work, if possible. You plugin a display, or set up your 
Bluetooth display  in range of your computer, brltty, or udev, or whatever, 
figures out there’s a display there, connects to it, starts brltty, and it 
begins putting out braille, both in the console and in xorg/wayland. It is 
possible to get it going in a desktop yes, but it’s a little fiddly to get 
going. Just having braille turned on in orca doesn’t seem to work. If you try 
that you’re likely to get a “screen not in text mode” error on the display and 
braille doesn’t seem to work out of the box. I’m not complaining at all, 
braille isn’t plug and play, especially on those displays that require you to 
be in a braille display mode before it will work. But that’s just for braille 
output. I’m not at all sure what’s needed to get braille input, that is, typing 
on the braille or qwerty keyboard, to work. Most distros should be packaging 
brltty’s udev and policy kit rules, so when a display is connected udev starts 
brltty, but not all do. Is it possible for  orca to autodetect the  braille 
display, and  whether or not it has a braille or qwerty keyboard and select an 
appropriate table? I believe that’s a liblouis  question, not a brltty one, but 
I’ve been trying to figure out why typing on the braille keyboard simply does 
not work. I’ve found a lot of stuff about xbrlapi not working, or not being 
started, but this is honestly something brltty should do. Figure out whether 
you’re in a desktop, and whether you’re in x or wayland, and start up whatever 
is needed for input and contracted output, if set in orca, to work. I can’t 
code yet, but if code is needed, is there any way I can help? One of my goals 
is to make Linux distros so accessible that special “accessible” distros aren’t 
needed anymore, and part of this is making braille a lot more automatic than it 
is now. Is ths issue that packagers aren’t including brltty’s udev and policy 
kit rules, resulting in brltty not starting? Is it the issue of brltty not for 
some reason being able to parse input from the keyboards of notetakers or 
braille displays? Is it something with the desktops? I’m just trying to figure 
this out, because honestly this should just work.
Sorry if I sound frustrated, I’m really not. I’ve just been going around and 
around and around trying to get this working. I don’t currently have a braille 
display, so I’ve had to have other people test.
Thanks
Kendell Clark
   

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Re: [BRLTTY] Off-topic: Android development on Linux

[Devin Prater]

Emacs does have an Android development mode.

Devin Prater
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From: BRLTTY <brltty-boun...@brltty.com> on behalf of Samuel Thibault 
<samuel.thiba...@ens-lyon.org>
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 9:47:45 AM
To: fernando.bote...@f123.org; Informal discussion between users and developers 
of BRLTTY.
Cc: brl...@mielke.cc
Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] Off-topic: Android development on Linux

Hello,

Fernando Botelho, on lun. 09 oct. 2017 11:38:42 -0300, wrote:
> I am told that in most corporate environments Android development is usually
> done through Android Studio. I am also told that Android Studio is currently
> inaccessible on Linux because the Java ATK Wrapper has not been worked on
> for a while:
> https://git.gnome.org/browse/java-atk-wrapper/
>
> Can anybody confirm for me that what one needs to use Android Studio on
> Linux is an updated Java ATK Wrapper?

Well, "not been worked on for a while" doesn't necessarily mean it
doesn't work at all :) But there might be bugs which make it at least
difficult to use, only people who have actually tried can say.

> Any idea of where one could find dev help or funding to fix this wrapper? I
> am probably able to find some funding on my own, but not enough.

It depends what needs to be fixed. Perhaps it's only about bugs which
may or may not be easy to fix, it's difficult to say without knowing
exactly what is missing here.

Samuel
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Re: [BRLTTY] what do I do now?

[Devin Prater]

When that happened on my Mac, I just touched a conf file, and BRLTTY had 
something to access then.

> On Mar 18, 2018, at 6:17 PM, Brian Tew  wrote:
> 
> I compiled 5.6 in the directory /usr/local/brl56, and all seemed to go well.
> How come I don't have a config file?
> Here is the output of the -v option:
> 
> brltty: cannot open file: /usr/local/brltty56/etc/brltty.conf: No such file 
> or directory BRLTTY 5.6 rev unknown [http://brltty.com/] brltty: Log Level: 
> none brltty: Working Directory: /home/btew brltty: Configuration File: 
> /usr/local/brltty56/etc/brltty.conf brltty: Preferences File: brltty.prefs 
> brltty: Updatable Directory: /usr/local/brltty56/var/lib/brltty brltty: 
> Writable Directory: /usr/local/brltty56/var/run/brltty brltty: Drivers 
> Directory: /usr/local/brltty56/lib/brltty brltty: Tables Directory: 
> /usr/local/brltty56/etc/brltty brltty: Text Table: en_US brltty: Attributes 
> Table: left_right brltty: Contraction Table: none brltty: Keyboard Property: 
> type= brltty: Keyboard Property: vendor= brltty: Keyboard Property: product= 
> brltty: Keyboard Table: none brltty: Screen Driver: lx [Linux] brltty: Linux 
> Screen Driver: brltty: Screen Parameter: charset= brltty: Screen Parameter: 
> debugsfm= brltty: Screen Parameter: hfb= brltty: Screen Parameter: vt= 
> brltty: Speech Driver: no [NoSpee
 c
> h] brltty: NoSpeech Speech Driver: brltty: Speech Input: none ~$
> 
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Re: [BRLTTY] How doyou read books?

[Devin Prater]

John, how do you have Emacs remember your place in a book? Do you use EWW or 
something else, or just have it in a text file, converted with Pandoc or 
something? I’m assuming you put the file in read only mode, I forget how this 
is done but know its possible, and simply do space or C-v to scroll the window?
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> On Mar 4, 2018, at 12:39 PM, Shérab <sebastien.hinde...@ens-lyon.org> wrote:
> 
> Thanks a lot for your feedback, John!
> 
> So, when you get a book in HTML or epub or whatever, you convert it to
> text?
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Shérab.
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Re: [BRLTTY] How doyou read books?

[Devin Prater]

Oh, thanks. When BRLTTY gets a driver for the Braille note Touch, I’ll probably 
try compiling and running it on my Mac, if that’s still possible. There should 
really be an article on the BRLTTY site about that, and maybe even applications 
that work well with BRLTTY for doing everyday tasks, like writing and reading. 
I know, all CLI apps should work, but some work better than others for tasks.
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> On Mar 4, 2018, at 1:24 PM, Shérab <sebastien.hinde...@ens-lyon.org> wrote:
> 
> I think it's thanks to Emacs' desktop that the positions in files are
> remembered.
> 
> Shérab.
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Re: [BRLTTY] How doyou read books?

[Devin Prater]

Thanks for letting me know that BRLTTY works with the Touch. If I can dredge up 
old emails about getting it working, and if I successfully do get it working, 
I’ll compile it all into, hopefully, an easy to follow manner and send it here.
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> On Mar 4, 2018, at 2:41 PM, Dave Mielke <d...@mielke.cc> wrote:
> 
> [quoted lines by Devin Prater on 2018/03/04 at 13:43 -0600]
> 
>> When BRLTTY gets a driver for the Braille note Touch, I’ll probably try 
>> compiling and running it on my Mac, if that’s still possible. 
> 
> The HumanWare driver already supports the BrailleNote Touch. Use the latest 
> brltty release (5.6) as there were some problems in earlier releases.
> 
>> There should really be an article on the BRLTTY site about that, and maybe 
>> even applications that work well with BRLTTY for doing everyday tasks, like 
>> writing and reading. 
> 
> I'll gladly accept submissions. I'll organize them into a web page, and will 
> even go through them to correct spelling, etc, but I need submissions!
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[BRLTTY] Success! Re: installing BRLTTY on the mac

[Devin Prater]

It wasn’t that hard. I didn’t expect it to be easy, and yes, compiling is still 
nerve-wracking to me, but it works. Here is the page I got my instructions from:
http://brltty.mielke.narkive.com/9QBwp00R/installing-brltty-on-the-mac
Here are the notes I took:
First, make sure you have Xcode installed, or the command line tools. Then, get 
Homebrew. Simply search Google for this, and it’ll most likely be the first 
result. Follow the easy instructions there.
Now, install git. First, run the Terminal app, found in the utilities folder of 
the applications folder in the Finder app. When there, type:
Brew install git
Now, after you land back at your prompt, you can either download the source 
code from git, or you may download the tar.gz file from the downloads page on 
the BRLTTY site. The origin of these instructions uses the “live” git version. 
I’m not that adventurous… yet.
Git clone https://github.com/brltty/brltty 
Now you’ll have the BRLTTY code on your system. This code is in human-readable 
form, so it cannot quite be ran as a program yet.
Now, to run the auto-generator, we must have autoconf. Don’t ask me why, I just 
got an error about it and installed it from Homebrew, like this:
Brew install autoconf
So, if you get an error about something not found, similar to “autoconf: 
command not found,” you may attempt to install the command through Homebrew.
Now, run:
./autogen
When that’s done, run:
./cfg-darwin —prefix=/usr/local
Now, when that succeeds:
make
Then:
Sudo make install

Now, get screen:
http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/screen/screen-4.2.1.tar.gz 

Now, the screen program has to be patched to allow it to work with BRLTTY. Why 
Screen doesn’t just get the code and patch it in officially is beyond me. I 
guess there has to be a reason, so we just do:
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[BRLTTY] A little trouble with BRLTTY on Mac

[Devin Prater]

Hi all. I got BRLTTY to work for a little while yesterday, but today when I 
tried it, BRLTTY seemed to start normally, but wouldn’t connect to the Braille 
note touch, even after a restart of both devices. In the Mac Console app, I got 
this:
default 05:52:02.285884 -0600   brltty  Darwin error 0XE2C5.
default 05:52:02.285943 -0600   brltty  USB interface open error 16: Resource 
busy.
I’m not sure how the USB resource is busy, I just plugged the Touch into the 
MacBook, started Braille Terminal, chose USB, and ran BRLTTY. Any ideas?

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