Re: Issues with exported functions

2014-09-25 Thread Geir Hauge
2014-09-25 6:23 GMT+02:00 Linda Walsh b...@tlinx.org: Maybe exporting fun? export fun='() { :;}' bash -c 'declare -pf fun' bash: line 0: declare: fun: not found ... I've never seen functions created with an assignment. Is this a new syntax in 4.3? (still in 4.2.43 here)... Bash

Re: Issues with exported functions

2014-09-25 Thread lolilolicon
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Chet Ramey chet.ra...@case.edu wrote: On 9/24/14, 3:44 PM, lolilolicon wrote: Personally, I have never needed this feature. I would vote for its removal: It's very surprising, creates bugs, and is not very useful. There are more things in heaven and earth

Re: Issues with exported functions

2014-09-25 Thread Davide Brini
On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 21:35:19 -0400, Chet Ramey chet.ra...@case.edu wrote: On 9/24/14, 3:44 PM, lolilolicon wrote: Personally, I have never needed this feature. I would vote for its removal: It's very surprising, creates bugs, and is not very useful. There are more things in heaven and

Re: Issues with exported functions

2014-09-25 Thread Pierre Gaston
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 11:06 AM, lolilolicon loliloli...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Chet Ramey chet.ra...@case.edu wrote: On 9/24/14, 3:44 PM, lolilolicon wrote: Personally, I have never needed this feature. I would vote for its removal: It's very surprising,

Re: Issues with exported functions

2014-09-25 Thread Geir Hauge
2014-09-25 10:43 GMT+02:00 Davide Brini dave...@gmx.com: I'm not arguing about anything, I just have a question. I understand that with the current method used to export functions, it is not possible to export a variable to a child whose value begins exactly with the characters in question. A

Re: Issues with exported functions

2014-09-25 Thread lolilolicon
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 7:19 AM, Linda Walsh b...@tlinx.org wrote: lolilolicon wrote: I don't expect more than a dozen who rely on this... but bash programmers can be quite the perverts, so... Personally I find those who don't read the man page, and then claim that documented behavior is

Re: Issues with exported functions

2014-09-25 Thread Pierre Gaston
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 12:42 PM, lolilolicon loliloli...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 7:19 AM, Linda Walsh b...@tlinx.org wrote: lolilolicon wrote: I don't expect more than a dozen who rely on this... but bash programmers can be quite the perverts, so... Personally I

Re: Issues with exported functions

2014-09-25 Thread lolilolicon
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 5:51 PM, Pierre Gaston pierre.gas...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 12:42 PM, lolilolicon loliloli...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 7:19 AM, Linda Walsh b...@tlinx.org wrote: lolilolicon wrote: I don't expect more than a dozen who rely on

Re: Issues with exported functions

2014-09-25 Thread lolilolicon
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Pierre Gaston pierre.gas...@gmail.com wrote: In any event, this is but irrelevant to the discussion. Do not seize the red herring. It is fully relevant when you use a sexist stereotype as an argument. No, I didn't use a sexist stereotype as an argument.

Re: Issues with exported functions

2014-09-25 Thread Gabriel Corona
Hello, As the interface is not specified, would it make sense to: * add a prefix (use BASH_FUNCTION_foo instead of foo for exported function foo); * still expand the variable if it matches the 'exported function' pattern. The first point would reduce the probability of a clash with a

Re: Issues with exported functions

2014-09-25 Thread Gabriel Corona
Hello, As the interface is not specified, would it make sense to: * add a prefix (use BASH_FUNCTION_foo instead of foo for exported function foo); * still expand the variable if it matches the 'exported function' pattern. The first point would reduce the probability of a clash with a

Re: Issues with exported functions

2014-09-25 Thread Chet Ramey
On 9/25/14, 4:43 AM, Davide Brini wrote: Function export is documented. The exact mechanism need not be. I'm not arguing about anything, I just have a question. I understand that with the current method used to export functions, it is not possible to export a variable to a child whose

Re: Issues with exported functions

2014-09-25 Thread Chet Ramey
On 9/25/14, 6:12 AM, lolilolicon wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Pierre Gaston pierre.gas...@gmail.com wrote: In any event, this is but irrelevant to the discussion. Do not seize the red herring. It is fully relevant when you use a sexist stereotype as an argument. No, I didn't

Re: Issues with exported functions

2014-09-25 Thread Chet Ramey
On 9/25/14, 4:52 AM, Gabriel Corona wrote: Hello, As the interface is not specified, would it make sense to: * add a prefix (use BASH_FUNCTION_foo instead of foo for exported function foo); * still expand the variable if it matches the 'exported function' pattern. Yes, that's

Re: Bash-4.3 Official Patch 25

2014-09-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 06:02:11AM -0700, gnu.bash.bug wrote: Hi, This patch does not seem to work on HP-UX: Worked for me on 10.20. $ /usr/bin/env x='() { :;}; echo vulnerable' bash -c 'echo hello' vulnerable hello imadev:~$ uname -a HP-UX imadev B.10.20 A 9000/785 2008897791 two-user

Re: Bash-4.3 Official Patch 25

2014-09-25 Thread Chet Ramey
On 9/25/14, 9:02 AM, gnu.bash.bug wrote: Hi, This patch does not seem to work on HP-UX: $ ./bash --version GNU bash, version 4.3.25(1)-release (ia64-hp-hpux11.31) Copyright (C) 2013 Free Software Foundation, Inc. License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html

Re: Bash-4.3 Official Patch 25

2014-09-25 Thread Mark Ashley
Ah great, thanks for that...though since there's still the bug in p025 (see http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2014-7169 ) I'll keep spinning my wheels and watching the git branches until p026 rolls out. ta, Mark On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Chris F.A. Johnson

Re: Bash-4.3 Official Patch 25

2014-09-25 Thread M1ch34lk
Are you absolutely sure that the bash your command is invoking is the patched one? You are right! I had like 4 other bash versions in my PATH So case closed... ;) Thanks! Michael

Re: Bash-4.3 Official Patch 25

2014-09-25 Thread Jason Vas Dias
Good day Chet, bash-list - I just checked out the latest git head, applied the bash43-025 patch, and built $ ./bash --version GNU bash, version 4.3.25(3)-release (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) ... which PASSED its 'make check' test suite, both under Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS and under RHEL-6.5+ , on an

Re: Bash-4.3 Official Patch 25

2014-09-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 02:50:03PM +0100, Jason Vas Dias wrote: But now there is an issue - bash seems to lose its idea of stdout / stderr being a terminal within read loops, as illustrated by this test script (/tmp/t.sh): quote #!/bin/bash tty echo $'1\n2' test.list; while read line;

Re: Bash-4.3 Official Patch 25

2014-09-25 Thread Andreas Schwab
Jason Vas Dias jason.vas.d...@gmail.com writes: quote #!/bin/bash tty echo $'1\n2' test.list; while read line; do tty; done test.list /quote Its output illustrates the problem: quote $ ./bash /tmp/t.sh /dev/pts/6 not a tty not a tty /quote tty uses stdin, so this is the

Re: Bash-4.3 Official Patch 25

2014-09-25 Thread Jason Vas Dias
Oops, sorry, this issue is nothing to do with the bash43-025 patch - I just verified that the same issue occurs with bash 4.1.2(1) . The issue was that a script that does an 'stty' command was failing when run in a 'while read ... ' loop. It wasn't using 'stty -F', so was trying to stty on stdin,

Re: Issues with exported functions

2014-09-25 Thread Dan Douglas
On Thursday, September 25, 2014 09:03:03 AM Chet Ramey wrote: On 9/25/14, 4:52 AM, Gabriel Corona wrote: Hello, As the interface is not specified, would it make sense to: * add a prefix (use BASH_FUNCTION_foo instead of foo for exported function foo); * still expand the

Re: Issues with exported functions

2014-09-25 Thread Chet Ramey
On 9/25/14, 10:25 AM, Dan Douglas wrote: Have you considered the FPATH mechanism? Exploiting it requires being able to create files and set FPATH accordingly. I've had some success with the function loader code in examples/functions/autoload.*. I believe it serves mostly the same purpose

Re: Issues with exported functions

2014-09-25 Thread Dan Douglas
On Thursday, September 25, 2014 10:29:16 AM Chet Ramey wrote: On 9/25/14, 10:25 AM, Dan Douglas wrote: Have you considered the FPATH mechanism? Exploiting it requires being able to create files and set FPATH accordingly. I've had some success with the function loader code in

Re: Issues with exported functions

2014-09-25 Thread Eric Blake
On 09/25/2014 07:03 AM, Chet Ramey wrote: On 9/25/14, 4:52 AM, Gabriel Corona wrote: Hello, As the interface is not specified, would it make sense to: * add a prefix (use BASH_FUNCTION_foo instead of foo for exported function foo); I'd much rather prefer the use of an invalid shell

Re: Issues with exported functions

2014-09-25 Thread Ángel González
Steve Simmons wrote: ..bash_once defines SET_ONCE and loads literally hundreds of environment variables and exports many shell functions that would otherwise have to be defined in .bashrc and processed on every freaking run. .bash_once is about 50 times larger than .bashrc and .bash_login.

Re: Issues with exported functions

2014-09-25 Thread Linda Walsh
lolilolicon wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Chet Ramey chet.ra...@case.edu wrote: Even if you use it as a rhetorical device, it distracts from (and detracts from) your argument. It doesn't improve the quality of the discussion, so it's best not to use it. Agreed. People can take

Re: Bash security issue

2014-09-25 Thread Linda Walsh
Eric Blake wrote: And _that's_ what I want changed, by proposing that bash use 'f()=...' rather than 'f=() {...' as the magic it uses for exporting functions from parent to child. --- That could still be put in the environment (though not as easily w/o special code). Not that it is any

Re: Bash security issue

2014-09-25 Thread Eric Blake
On 09/25/2014 01:15 PM, Linda Walsh wrote: Eric Blake wrote: And _that's_ what I want changed, by proposing that bash use 'f()=...' rather than 'f=() {...' as the magic it uses for exporting functions from parent to child. --- That could still be put in the environment (though not as

Re: Issues with exported functions

2014-09-25 Thread Steve Simmons
On Sep 25, 2014, at 2:47 PM, lolilolicon loliloli...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 2:28 AM, Ángel González an...@16bits.net wrote: [...] On the other hand, this approach would be much more interesting if bash delayed parsing of exported functions until they are used (ie. check

Re: Issues with exported functions

2014-09-25 Thread Chet Ramey
On 9/25/14, 2:47 PM, lolilolicon wrote: On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 2:28 AM, Ángel González an...@16bits.net wrote: [...] On the other hand, this approach would be much more interesting if bash delayed parsing of exported functions until they are used (ie. check This is what function autoload

Re: Issues with exported functions

2014-09-25 Thread lolilolicon
On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 2:53 AM, Linda Walsh b...@tlinx.org wrote: --- prevert _might_ have been more obviously seen as applicable to a bash programmer who is pre-bent or pre-twisted from having programmed in shell for so long, compared to the nick, lilololicon, with its 'H'y (as in

Re: Issues with exported functions

2014-09-25 Thread Gabriel Corona
I'd much rather prefer the use of an invalid shell name (such as f()=...) than a valid shell name (BASH_FUNCTION_foo=()...). Using a BASH_ prefix has some advantages: * Anyone setting such a variable, might expect it could change the behaviour of bash. Any script allowing setting untrusted

Re: Issues with exported functions

2014-09-25 Thread Gabriel Corona
It's not backwards compatible, but who cares? The only time it matters is if you are mixing old and new bash ON THE SAME SYSTEM, and TRYING TO EXPORT FUNCTIONS BETWEEN THEM. It might happen during the update of bash. A bash process exec()ed before the update would fail to export a function to

Building --enable-minimal-config fails: undefined reference to `glob_patscan'

2014-09-25 Thread michael
Configuration Information [Automatically generated, do not change]: Machine: i586 OS: linux-gnu Compiler: gcc Compilation CFLAGS: -DPROGRAM='bash' -DCONF_HOSTTYPE='i586' -DCONF_OSTYPE='linux-gnu' -DCONF_MACHTYPE='i586-pc-linux-gnu' -DCONF_VENDOR='pc' -DLOCALEDIR='/usr/share/locale'

Bash-4.3 Official Patch 25 Bug 896776 - (CVE-2014-6271)

2014-09-25 Thread ralf . naegele
Hello, I've downloaded the source for bash 4.3 and all patches, patched the source to Patch 25. But according some description I've found (http://heise.de/-2403305 sorry, only in German available), you can test with the command env x='() { :;}; echo vulnerable' bash -c echo this is a test if

CERT/NIST reveal level 10 bash alert today, 24 September 2014

2014-09-25 Thread Alexandre Ferrieux
Is the response (workarounds and patch) being discussed elsewhere ? (1) Patch Looking at the code, it seems that the problem is that in initialize_shell_variables(), when an inheritable function is detected in the environment by the () { prefix, we then directly call parse_and_execute(), on

patchset to optionally disable function exports

2014-09-25 Thread David Galos
I understand that some people might find function exports useful, but there is also some utility in being able to turn it off. I've added a configure flag, --disable-function-export which prevents bash from attempting to parse environment variables that look like functions upon startup. The

Re: CERT/NIST reveal level 10 bash alert today, 24 September 2014

2014-09-25 Thread Eric Blake
On 09/25/2014 08:48 AM, Alexandre Ferrieux wrote: Is the response (workarounds and patch) being discussed elsewhere ? (1) Patch Looking at the code, it seems that the problem is that in initialize_shell_variables(), when an inheritable function is detected in the environment by the ()

Re: Bash-4.3 Official Patch 25 Bug 896776 - (CVE-2014-6271)

2014-09-25 Thread Eric Blake
On 09/25/2014 09:33 AM, ralf.naeg...@she.net wrote: Hello, I've downloaded the source for bash 4.3 and all patches, patched the source to Patch 25. But according some description I've found (http://heise.de/-2403305 sorry, only in German available), you can test with the command env

Re: Issues with exported functions

2014-09-25 Thread Ángel González
Chet Ramey wrote: On 9/25/14, 2:47 PM, lolilolicon wrote: On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 2:28 AM, Ángel González wrote: [...] On the other hand, this approach would be much more interesting if bash delayed parsing of exported functions until they are used (ie. check This is what function

Re: Bash-4.3 Official Patch 25

2014-09-25 Thread Chet Ramey
On 9/24/14, 5:38 PM, Eric Blake wrote: and I'd feel much more comfortable with exporting f()=... as the backdoor for passing the function definition, _particularly_ since the shell already allows functions and variables to co-exist: We used to do that, and part of the code that I removed in

Re: CERT/NIST reveal level 10 bash alert today, 24 September 2014

2014-09-25 Thread Steve Simmons
On Sep 25, 2014, at 5:42 PM, Alexandre FERRIEUX - SOFT/LAN alexandre.ferri...@orange.com wrote: On 25/09/2014 22:51, Eric Blake wrote: On 09/25/2014 08:48 AM, Alexandre Ferrieux wrote: Is the response (workarounds and patch) being discussed elsewhere ? Thanks. Like thousands of people I

Re: CERT/NIST reveal level 10 bash alert today, 24 September 2014

2014-09-25 Thread Thad Floryan
On 9/24/2014 6:07 PM, Thad Floryan wrote: I caught the newsflash at Reuters earlier todat and a search found the other URLs below. This seemed the only relevant bash group available for subscription at the eternal-september NNTP server. Articles: New 'Bash' software bug may pose bigger

Re: Bash security issue

2014-09-25 Thread Linda Walsh
Eric Blake wrote: Where I'm coming from is that in portable shell programming, you _can't_ assign a value to f()=... The fact that portable programs are now slammed[sic] with the notion that some values cannot be portably assigned to a variable... --- slammed? It's not like this is new...

Bash --version issue

2014-09-25 Thread Allodoxaphobia
Earlier today I performed the `bash` security upgrade on my | [userid~]uname -rs | FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE-p9 machine. I thought to check the version level of `bash` to see what I now have: | [userid~]man bash | : | : | --version | Show version information for this instance of

Re: Bash --version issue

2014-09-25 Thread Chet Ramey
On 9/25/14, 9:41 PM, Allodoxaphobia wrote: Earlier today I performed the `bash` security upgrade on my | [userid~]uname -rs | FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE-p9 machine. I thought to check the version level of `bash` to see what I now have: I can't reproduce this. My patched version of bash gives

Re: Bash --version issue

2014-09-25 Thread Allodoxaphobia
On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 23:04:46 -0400, Chet Ramey wrote: On 9/25/14, 9:41 PM, Allodoxaphobia wrote: Earlier today I performed the `bash` security upgrade on my | [userid~]uname -rs | FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE-p9 machine. I thought to check the version level of `bash` to see what I now have: I

Latest Patch

2014-09-25 Thread William Moss
William Moss billm...@acm.org On my Debian system, they seem to have applied the fix for strcpy. On my custom system, I recompiled bash 4.2 from source and when I tried to apply the latest patch: patch -b -i ./bash42-048 -p0 -o ./bash I get patching file ./bash Hunk #1 succeeded at 36 with fuzz

Re: Bash-4.3 Official Patch 25

2014-09-25 Thread mark
On Friday, September 26, 2014 9:58:56 AM UTC+10, Chet Ramey wrote: On 9/24/14, 5:38 PM, Eric Blake wrote: and I'd feel much more comfortable with exporting f()=... as the backdoor for passing the function definition, _particularly_ since the shell already allows functions and