On 6/5/21 10:49 PM, Léa Gris wrote:
Le 05/06/2021 à 18:47, John Passaro écrivait :
I can see a couple reasons why it would be a good thing, and in the con
column only "I personally don't have time to go through the manual and make
these changes". but I'd happily upvote a patch from somebody
On 6/7/21 2:37 PM, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
Then there is no need to change anything.
yes, there is a pressing need.
How? Where? And who the fuck are you? This is your first message on
this list and it's total libtard bullshit, why should we even take you
seriously?
I'm going to assume this
Hi,
I agree to write the user manual in a gender-neutral way. Let's also
remember that "he/she" and "his/her" are not valid solutions, because
they leave out non-binary people.
It seems to me that both proposed patches are fine and solve the
problem.
Andrea Monaco
Hi,
I agree to write the user manual in a gender-neutral way. Let's also
remember that "he/she" and "his/her" are not valid solutions, because
they leave out non-binary people.
It seems to me that both proposed patches are fine and solve the
problem.
Andrea Monaco
On 6/7/21 3:06 PM, Oğuz wrote:
7 Haziran 2021 Pazartesi tarihinde Dima Pasechnik yazdı:
Where have you been taught to address a CS lecturer at Oxford University,
a PhD, who, age-wise, could have been your father, I suppose, with f-word?
There's more where that came from, but I'd rather
On 2021/06/06 04:48, Léa Gris wrote:
Le 06/06/2021 à 11:33, Ilkka Virta écrivait :
In fact, that generic 'they' is so common and accepted, that you just
used
it yourself
in the part I quoted above.
Either you're acting in bad faith, or you're so confused by your
gender-neutral delusion that
On 2021/06/06 07:19, Alain D D Williams wrote:
The important thing is that there is no intention to oppress/denigrate/...
But it does _suggest_ that the default user is a male.
or, speaking about historical use, that the default user was
male. The problem comes when someone reads gendered
7 Haziran 2021 Pazartesi tarihinde Dima Pasechnik yazdı:
>
> Where have you been taught to address a CS lecturer at Oxford University,
> a PhD, who, age-wise, could have been your father, I suppose, with f-word?
>
There's more where that came from, but I'd rather keep them off this list.
--
On Mon, Jun 07, 2021 at 08:37:53PM +0200, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
> Where have you been taught to address a CS lecturer at Oxford University,
> a PhD, who, age-wise, could have been your father, I suppose, with f-word?
> In which well-respected madrasah did it happen, so that we know?
Please lads:
On Mon, Jun 07, 2021 at 08:58:08PM +0300, O??uz wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 1:52 PM Dima Pasechnik wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 06, 2021 at 05:59:17PM +0200, L??a Gris wrote:
> > > Le 06/06/2021 ?? 16:34, O??uz ??crivait???:
> > >
> > > > Then there is no need to change anything.
> > yes, there
On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 10:28 AM Greg Wooledge wrote:
> Out of these 5 choices, the one that seems to suck the *least*, according
> to observed usage patterns in current written and spoken English, is
> "they".
I agree with Greg, *they* has become the dominant gender neutral pronoun in
English. I
On Mon, Jun 07, 2021 at 12:52:08PM +0200, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
> I know a number of French female academics, who would just laugh at the
> latter claim.
> To start with, they, married, but retained their maiden surnames, say, X,
> cannot even manage to get
> them addressed by official
On Sun, Jun 06, 2021 at 05:59:17PM +0200, L??a Gris wrote:
> Le 06/06/2021 ?? 16:34, O??uz ??crivait???:
>
> > Then there is no need to change anything.
yes, there is a pressing need.
>
> Exactly.
> As a woman, I take no offense when a documentation illustrate a fictive male
> character. (and
On Sun, Jun 06, 2021 at 05:00:21PM +0300, Ilkka Virta wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 2:49 PM Léa Gris wrote:
>
> For the second person, there's of course "thou", but for some reason,
> I've never heard anyone suggest using that in practice.
Hast thou never been to Yorkshire or Lancashire? :-)
Le 06/06/2021 à 16:34, Oğuz écrivait :
Then there is no need to change anything.
Exactly.
As a woman, I take no offense when a documentation illustrate a fictive
male character. (and as I will illustrate below, in French pronouns are
tuned in gender and number with the object). I am not
On Sun, Jun 06, 2021 at 05:12:21PM +0300, Oğuz wrote:
> If that really is a problem that has to be addressed and not
> bike-shedding, let's compromise and say "his/her" instead of "his" or
> "their".
*sigh*
I probably shouldn't do this, but let's dive into this just a bit, because
apparently
6 Haziran 2021 Pazar tarihinde Alain D D Williams yazdı:
> On Sun, Jun 06, 2021 at 05:12:21PM +0300, Oğuz wrote:
>
> > If that really is a problem that has to be addressed and not
> > bike-shedding, let's compromise and say "his/her" instead of "his" or
> > "their".
>
> Possible, but it detracts
On Sun, Jun 06, 2021 at 05:12:21PM +0300, Oğuz wrote:
> If that really is a problem that has to be addressed and not
> bike-shedding, let's compromise and say "his/her" instead of "his" or
> "their".
Possible, but it detracts from the clarity of the sentence that it is in.
> Though I don't
6 Haziran 2021 Pazar tarihinde Ilkka Virta yazdı:
>
> I do wonder, though, what the gender-neutral delusion here would be? That
> there exist women
> who use computers and Unix-like systems, and not just men? Even I know, in
> real life, some
> female Linux users, and while I haven't asked about
On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 2:49 PM Léa Gris wrote:
> Either you're acting in bad faith, or you're so confused by your
> gender-neutral delusion that you don't remember that in normal people's
> grammar, "they" is a plural pronoun.
>
Argh, no, that's just an example of the fact that I can't read.
Léa, I see that in the section Ilkka quoted you were using it in the
plural. However Ilkka is exactly right; despite "they" being technically
plural, using it for somebody of undetermined gender has been in the
mainstream since long before inclusive language. "Someone left *their*
book, there's no
Le 06/06/2021 à 11:33, Ilkka Virta écrivait :
In fact, that generic 'they' is so common and accepted, that you just used
it yourself
in the part I quoted above.
Either you're acting in bad faith, or you're so confused by your
gender-neutral delusion that you don't remember that in normal
On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 5:50 AM Léa Gris wrote:
> Le 05/06/2021 à 18:47, John Passaro écrivait :
> > I can see a couple reasons why it would be a good thing, and in the con
> > column only "I personally don't have time to go through the manual and
> make
> > these changes". but I'd happily upvote
6 Haziran 2021 Pazar tarihinde L A Walsh yazdı:
> On 2021/06/05 08:35, Oğuz wrote:
>
>> 5 Haziran 2021 Cumartesi tarihinde Vipul Kumar <
>> kumar+bug-b...@onenetbeyond.org> yazdı:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Isn't it a good idea to prefer non-gender specific pronoun (like "their"
>>> instead of
> On Jun 5, 2021, at 12:47 PM, John Passaro wrote:
>
> I can see a couple reasons why it would be a good thing, and in the con
> column only "I personally don't have time to go through the manual and make
> these changes".
There don't seem to be many instances in the Texinfo source.
#1,
Le 05/06/2021 à 18:47, John Passaro écrivait :
I can see a couple reasons why it would be a good thing, and in the con
column only "I personally don't have time to go through the manual and make
these changes". but I'd happily upvote a patch from somebody that does.
I can see so many reasons
On 2021/06/05 08:35, Oğuz wrote:
5 Haziran 2021 Cumartesi tarihinde Vipul Kumar <
kumar+bug-b...@onenetbeyond.org> yazdı:
Hi,
Isn't it a good idea to prefer non-gender specific pronoun (like "their"
instead of "his") at following places in the reference manual?
No it's not.
I can see a couple reasons why it would be a good thing, and in the con
column only "I personally don't have time to go through the manual and make
these changes". but I'd happily upvote a patch from somebody that does.
On Sat, Jun 5, 2021, 09:24 Vipul Kumar
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Isn't it a good
5 Haziran 2021 Cumartesi tarihinde Vipul Kumar <
kumar+bug-b...@onenetbeyond.org> yazdı:
> Hi,
>
> Isn't it a good idea to prefer non-gender specific pronoun (like "their"
> instead of "his") at following places in the reference manual?
No it's not.
>
> > leaving the user in a non-writable
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