this is due to parsing of args by specific app, -- arg indicates
end-of-switches
On Wed, Nov 17, 2021, 13:41 Marshall Whittaker
wrote:
> Software: bash
> Version: 5.0.17(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
>
> --- SNIP ---
> [marshall@jerkon]{04:09 AM}: [~/bashful] $ touch -- '--version'
>
On Mon, 2021-11-15 at 09:23 -0500, Chet Ramey wrote:
> On 11/12/21 4:36 AM, Mischa Baars wrote:
>
> > Could you please restore the Fedora 32 behaviour? Someone must have read
> > the bash manual a little too precise, because now the statement only
> > returns true when a 'touch -a test' is given
On Fri, 2021-11-12 at 19:48 +0100, Andreas Schwab wrote:
> FILE1 -nt FILE2 True if file1 is newer than file2 (according to
>modification date).
>
> Andreas.
>
This would indeed also solve the problem at hand :)
Software: bash
Version: 5.0.17(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
--- SNIP ---
[marshall@jerkon]{04:09 AM}: [~/bashful] $ touch -- '--version'
[marshall@jerkon]{04:09 AM}: [~/bashful] $ touch a && mkdir b
[marshall@jerkon]{04:09 AM}: [~/bashful] $ ls -l
total 4
-rw-rw-r-- 1 marshall marshall0
Software: bash
Version: 5.0.17(1)-release
--- SNIP ---
[marshall@jerkon]{04:09 AM}: [~/bashful] $ touch -- '--version'
[marshall@jerkon]{04:09 AM}: [~/bashful] $ touch a && mkdir b
[marshall@jerkon]{04:09 AM}: [~/bashful] $ ls -l
total 4
-rw-rw-r-- 1 marshall marshall0 Nov 17 04:09 a
On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 03:47:15PM +0200, Ilkka Virta wrote:
> I don't see this in BashFAQ, though. Is it because it's not strictly about
> Bash? Greg?
https://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls#pf3
On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 1:33 PM Andreas Schwab
wrote:
> On Nov 17 2021, Michael J. Baars wrote:
>
> > When -N stands for NEW, and touch (-am) gives you a new file
>
> It doesn't. The file hasn't been modified after it was last read.
>
touch creates the given file if it doesn't previously
On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 04:16:36AM -0500, Marshall Whittaker wrote:
> --- SNIP ---
> [marshall@jerkon]{04:09 AM}: [~/bashful] $ touch -- '--version'
> [marshall@jerkon]{04:09 AM}: [~/bashful] $ mv * b
This isn't a vulnerability in bash. It's a bug in your script.
Use this instead: mv -- * b
On 11/17/21 4:16 AM, Marshall Whittaker wrote:
> This shouldn't happen beacuse you can drop a file and then redirect
> other code for example calling a script if you only have access to drop
> a file. Say a cronjob was running every hour, and it did rm * on some
> folder, by expansion, you could
On Nov 17 2021, Michael J. Baars wrote:
> When -N stands for NEW, and touch (-am) gives you a new file
It doesn't. The file hasn't been modified after it was last read.
Andreas.
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On 11/17/21 5:16 AM, Michael J. Baars wrote:
>> Why do you think `touch -am', which sets the atime and mtime to the same
>> value, should make -N true?
>
> When -N stands for NEW
It doesn't, though. It could just as easily be a mnemonic for "new activity
in the file." You're using it to mean
On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 2:42 PM Marshall Whittaker <
marshallwhitta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> [marshall@jerkon]{04:09 AM}: [~/bashful] $ touch -- '--version'
> [marshall@jerkon]{04:09 AM}: [~/bashful] $ rm *
> rm (GNU coreutils) 8.30
> Copyright (C) 2018 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> License
On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 06:30:08PM +, João Almeida Santos wrote:
> Thank you for your reply Robert and Lawrence!
>
> I understand the description alone is hard to follow, so I think the image
> below should make it clearer. Otherwise let me know!
>
>
> Kind regards,
> João Almeida Santos
Date:Wed, 17 Nov 2021 18:45:05 +
From:=?utf-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_Almeida_Santos?=
Message-ID:
| No, it's on the email...
It wasn't, but some lists filter attachments (remove them) - this might be one.
| bash-5.1$ echo $PATH
|
No, it’s on the email...Anyway, here’s the text!
bash-5.1$ echo $PATH
/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin/:/usr/local/bin/:/usr/local/bin/
bash-5.1$ cat << $PATH
> /usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin/:/usr/local/bin/:/usr/local/bin/
> it should have terminated with the upper
On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 06:45:05PM +, João Almeida Santos wrote:
> bash-5.1$ cat << $PATH
That's not how a here-document is intended to be used. A here-document
lets you drop a blob of text directly into your script and use that as
standard input for some command, without needing to store
On 11/17/21 10:33 AM, Robert Elz wrote:
> There are several (IMO)
> bugs in the way bash processes here documents,
Such as?
--
``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer
``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates
Chet Ramey, UTech, CWRUc...@case.edu
Thank you for your reply Robert and Lawrence!
I understand the description alone is hard to follow, so I think the image
below should make it clearer. Otherwise let me know!
Kind regards,
João Almeida Santos
Ok, got it. It makes sense now!
Thank you very much for your detailed explanation guys; now that I understand
it, I’ll try to implement that on my mini shell.
It’s a bit too soon, but merry Christmas to you all!
Kind regards,
João Almeida Santos
On 11/17/21 3:02 PM, Robert Elz wrote:
> | bash-5.1$ cat << $PATH
>
>
> | it should have terminated with the upper delimiter!
>
> What do you consider the "upper delimiter" ?
>
> This is one of the weirder aspects of shell syntax, and perhaps one
> of bash's oddities.
It's not. Every
u forgot to attach the picture .. ?
On Wed, Nov 17, 2021, 19:31 João Almeida Santos
wrote:
> Thank you for your reply Robert and Lawrence!
>
> I understand the description alone is hard to follow, so I think the image
> below should make it clearer. Otherwise let me know!
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
On 11/17/21 1:45 PM, João Almeida Santos wrote:
> No, it’s on the email...Anyway, here’s the text!
>
> bash-5.1$ echo $PATH
> /usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin/:/usr/local/bin/:/usr/local/bin/
>
> bash-5.1$ cat << $PATH
>>
Hello,
First of all thank you for doing great (and free) software!
I’m a programming student currently on 42 School in Lisbon, and one of our
projects is to create a minishell, and to mimic the behavior of bash.
While testing the heredoc mode, I realized that the $ is not interpreted as
On Wed, Nov 17, 2021, at 7:35 AM, João Almeida Santos wrote:
> I’m a programming student currently on 42 School in Lisbon, and one of
> our projects is to create a minishell, and to mimic the behavior of
> bash.
Nice!
> While testing the heredoc mode, I realized that the $ is not
>
Date:Wed, 17 Nov 2021 12:35:42 +
From:=?utf-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_Almeida_Santos?=
Message-ID:
| While testing the heredoc mode, I realized that the $ is not
| interpreted as variable expansion.
It depends how you set up the heredoc, please give an example of
Date:Wed, 17 Nov 2021 15:47:37 -0500
From:Chet Ramey
Message-ID: <420281e7-f3c4-8054-d390-9378080c2...@case.edu>
| Every modern shell uses `$PATH' as the here-document delimiter
Depends what you call modern shells - some ash derived shells (at least)
don't,
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On Fri, 2021-11-12 at 19:48 +0100, Andreas Schwab wrote:
> FILE1 -nt FILE2 True if file1 is newer than file2 (according to
>modification date).
>
> Andreas.
>
So now we have a relation for 'older than' and for 'newer than', but how about
'oldest' (executable),
On Wed, 2021-11-17 at 14:06 +0200, Ilkka Virta wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 1:33 PM Andreas Schwab wrote:
> > On Nov 17 2021, Michael J. Baars wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > When -N stands for NEW, and touch (-am) gives you a new file
> >
> >
> >
> > It doesn't. The file hasn't been modified
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