Re: broken link

2009-09-17 Thread Anarkia Komunismo
So, are you going to replace http://www.expita.com/nomime.html with
http://stagecraft.theprices.net/nomime.html?

2009/8/31, Philip Rowlands p...@doc.ic.ac.uk:
 On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Jim Meyering wrote:

 Can anyone suggest a replacement?

 This is the same content, and references the expita.com URL as the
 source:

 http://stagecraft.theprices.net/nomime.html


 Cheers,
 Phil





Re: Open-source tools

2009-09-17 Thread Eric Blake
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[dropping the mass CC]

According to Sander Schins on 9/17/2009 2:14 AM:
 Dear Sir/Madam,

Your approach of blast-mailing a large set of disparate projects is a bit
inappropriate.  My reply will focus only on GNU Coreutils, which is
licensed under the GNU GPLv3 because it is Free Software (as opposed to
the broader category of open source software).

 Before we wanted to make that step we would like to contact the authors off
 the open-source tools with the question if they would agree that we will
 sell the live-cd to this company.

Please go read the Free Software Foundation page about the GPLv3 license,
which should cover your questions on what you are and are not allowed to
do with Coreutils.  Among other things, the GPL does not restrict your
freedom to earn money from distributing open source.

http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#DoesTheGPLAllowMoney

Furthermore, the GPL explicitly states that anyone can use or distribute
Free Software without contacting the original authors, as long as they
abide be certain terms to preserve those same freedoms for others (this is
freedom 2 of the four essential freedom).  I'm paraphrasing here; read the
actual GPL for the real wording.

http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html

If you have further questions about using GPL software on your CD, contact
a lawyer, and/or ask the folks at licens...@gnu.org.

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Don't work too hard, make some time for fun as well!

Eric Blake e...@byu.net
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(man|info) pages and --help

2009-09-17 Thread C de-Avillez
c.f.: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/430953

I have been thinking about this, and discussed it a bit on our (Ubuntu)
bugs IRC channel (#ubuntu-bugs).

I understand the move to 'info', and the decision to make the man pages
a summary, taken off the '--help'. But, to old UNIX users -- those that
were taught 'read the man page' -- and mostly to users that use other
systems, like AIX, HP/UX, Solaris, etc, the idea of looking at 'info'
will not occur.

Hell, I myself every so often forget about it.

So. Would it be an acceptable idea to add, to the '--help', a warning
that this is *not* the full documentation?

Say, like:

This is an abridged documentation. The full documentation for blahblah
is maintained as a Texinfo manual. If the info and date programs are
properly installed at your site, the command

  info coreutils 'blahblah invocation'

   should give you access to the complete manual.

Thank you.

..Carl..


 


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Re: (man|info) pages and --help

2009-09-17 Thread Micah Cowan
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C de-Avillez wrote:
 So. Would it be an acceptable idea to add, to the '--help', a warning
 that this is *not* the full documentation?
 
 Say, like:
 
 This is an abridged documentation. The full documentation for blahblah
 is maintained as a Texinfo manual. If the info and date programs are
 properly installed at your site, the command
 
   info coreutils 'blahblah invocation'
 
should give you access to the complete manual.

Is there anyone who's unaware that --help doesn't provide complete
documentation? I can't think of any program that provides complete
document via --help; the closest is software like Subversion, Git or
Mercurial, where they provide you access to extensive documentation via
svn help command-style inquiries. Indeed, the whole point behind
- --help is usually to generate very brief usage information. Though a
shorter, one-sentence message directing the user to the full Texinfo
documentation could be useful.

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Micah J. Cowan
Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer.
Maintainer of GNU Wget and GNU Teseq
http://micah.cowan.name/
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