bug#8782: date command

2011-06-03 Thread Jim Meyering
James Youngman wrote: On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Jim Meyering j...@meyering.net wrote: Pádraig Brady wrote: OK how about I put the last 3 or 4 examples from http://www.pixelbeat.org/cmdline.html#dates in an EXAMPLE section in the man page. Good examples. I like the idea. One tweak:

bug#8782: date command

2011-06-03 Thread Voelker, Bernhard
Jim Meyering wrote: James Youngman wrote: One tweak: use date -d 12:00 +1 day instead of date -d tomorrow in the example. Good idea. That makes it immune to failure in a one hour interval on the day before the spring DST transition. hmm, shouldn't the tomorrow handling be fixed then? --

bug#8782: date command

2011-06-03 Thread Jim Meyering
Voelker, Bernhard wrote: Jim Meyering wrote: James Youngman wrote: One tweak: use date -d 12:00 +1 day instead of date -d tomorrow in the example. Good idea. That makes it immune to failure in a one hour interval on the day before the spring DST transition. hmm, shouldn't the tomorrow

bug#8782: date command

2011-06-03 Thread Voelker, Bernhard
Jim Meyering wrote: Voelker, Bernhard wrote: Jim Meyering wrote: James Youngman wrote: One tweak: use date -d 12:00 +1 day instead of date -d tomorrow in the example. Good idea. That makes it immune to failure in a one hour interval on the day before the spring DST transition. hmm,

bug#8782: date command

2011-06-03 Thread Paul Eggert
On 06/03/11 01:52, Voelker, Bernhard wrote: It seems there's room for improvement. Absolutely. All that we need is someone to volunteer to specify exactly how to improve it, and to write the documentation and code. Unfortunately, this won't be trivial.

bug#8782: date command

2011-06-03 Thread Jim Meyering
Voelker, Bernhard wrote: Jim Meyering wrote: Voelker, Bernhard wrote: Jim Meyering wrote: James Youngman wrote: One tweak: use date -d 12:00 +1 day instead of date -d tomorrow in the example. Good idea. That makes it immune to failure in a one hour interval on the day before the spring

bug#8782: date command

2011-06-03 Thread Voelker, Bernhard
Jim Meyering wrote: Voelker, Bernhard wrote: Jim Meyering wrote: Voelker, Bernhard wrote: Jim Meyering wrote: James Youngman wrote: One tweak: use date -d 12:00 +1 day instead of date -d tomorrow in the example. Good idea. That makes it immune to failure in a one hour interval on the

bug#8782: date command

2011-06-03 Thread Jim Meyering
Voelker, Bernhard wrote: ... We can't change the fact that the spring DST transition introduces a one-hour hole containing invalid times. Whenever we tell date to use a time in such a hole, date must diagnose it as invalid. `date` is still a tool, so I feel it should reflect daily life ...

bug#8782: date command

2011-06-03 Thread Voelker, Bernhard
Jim Meyering wrote: Voelker, Bernhard wrote: ... We can't change the fact that the spring DST transition introduces a one-hour hole containing invalid times. Whenever we tell date to use a time in such a hole, date must diagnose it as invalid. `date` is still a tool, so I feel it should

bug#8782: date command

2011-06-03 Thread Ruediger Meier
On Friday 03 June 2011, Voelker, Bernhard wrote: so in the night where the DST transition takes place, imagine you get up to go to the toilet because you drank to much coffee the evening before ... right in the hour where DST transition happens: isn't there a `date`? Or the other way round:

bug#8782: date command

2011-06-02 Thread Pádraig Brady
On 02/06/11 00:39, Jesse Gordon wrote: On 6/1/2011 4:12 PM, Pádraig Brady wrote: On 01/06/11 18:11, Rick Stanley wrote: The date command is very useful. A lot of features and options which I take advantage of as I need them. Every once in a while I need to use the command to convert a

bug#8782: date command

2011-06-02 Thread Jim Meyering
Pádraig Brady wrote: ... Jumpin' whale gills! Well when you put it like that :) Heh ;-) I had the same reaction. I wish I'd known about the -d @ function! I ended up writing my own in Perl utility just to convert epochs to dates. I'm with Rick on this one. Date supports so many different

bug#8782: date command

2011-06-02 Thread Pádraig Brady
I'm going with these 3. It's a bit tricky to align --help and man output, but this isn't too bad I think. cheers, Pádraig. From 9a7a5d114388342a86f7dc9ade7f69b70624e3fe Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: =?UTF-8?q?P=C3=A1draig=20Brady?= p...@draigbrady.com Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 13:00:18 +0100

bug#8782: date command

2011-06-02 Thread Jim Meyering
Pádraig Brady wrote: I'm going with these 3. It's a bit tricky to align --help and man output, but this isn't too bad I think. Thanks. Subject: [PATCH] doc: add examples to date --help * src/date.c (usage): Add examples for TZ handling, and seconds since epoch parsing, neither of which

bug#8782: date command

2011-06-02 Thread James Youngman
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Jim Meyering j...@meyering.net wrote: Pádraig Brady wrote: OK how about I put the last 3 or 4 examples from http://www.pixelbeat.org/cmdline.html#dates in an EXAMPLE section in the man page. Good examples. I like the idea. One tweak: use date -d 12:00 +1

bug#8782: date command

2011-06-01 Thread Rick Stanley
The date command is very useful. A lot of features and options which I take advantage of as I need them. Every once in a while I need to use the command to convert a UNIX Epoch Date to a normal date, so I attempt to use the command as: date -d 1306947372 Which results in the error message,

bug#8782: date command

2011-06-01 Thread Pádraig Brady
On 01/06/11 18:11, Rick Stanley wrote: The date command is very useful. A lot of features and options which I take advantage of as I need them. Every once in a while I need to use the command to convert a UNIX Epoch Date to a normal date, so I attempt to use the command as: date -d

bug#8782: date command

2011-06-01 Thread Bob Proulx
Rick Stanley wrote: date -d 1306947372 Which results in the error message, date: invalid date `1306947372'. Neither 'date --help' or 'man date' shows that the command should have been written as: date -d @1306947372 I needed to do a Google search to see what I was doing wrong. (My

bug#8782: date command

2011-06-01 Thread Jesse Gordon
On 6/1/2011 4:12 PM, Pádraig Brady wrote: On 01/06/11 18:11, Rick Stanley wrote: The date command is very useful. A lot of features and options which I take advantage of as I need them. Every once in a while I need to use the command to convert a UNIX Epoch Date to a normal date, so I