Re: inetutils ChangeLog doc/Makefile.am doc/inetuti...

2009-05-08 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
   After the patch I installed to inetutils [1], I think actually the
   only problem is that the gnulib 'fdl' module is a moving target.
   That doesn't really work, as Karl explained, since the main manual
   needs to be updated manually whenever there is a FDL version update
   in gnulib.

Right.

   So in gnulib, I propose we deprecated 'fdl' and ask maintainers to
   depend directly on 'fdl-1.3' or whatever version they need.
   Thoughts?

I agree.


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Re: [bug-inetutils] Re: inetutils ChangeLog doc/Makefile.am doc/inetuti...

2009-05-07 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
   doc/fdl.texi is removed below

   If I'm understanding correctly, removing fdl.texi seems wrong to
   me.  I'm supposing it's created dynamically from a copy in gnulib
   or somewhere now?  But the license can't be updated merely by
   changing that file.  The @copying block has to be updated also.  In
   fact, the @copying block now says 1.2, but (I'm guessing) fdl.texi
   v1.3 is what gets pulled in.

   I think the right outcome is:
   1) change 1.2 to 1.3 in @copying in inetutils.texi.

   2) keep a copy of fdl[-1.3].texi in the repo.

   3) in the event that the fdl is updated, both things need to be
  updated.  I don't know of any plausible way to automate it, and
  updates are so infrequent, it doesn't seem worth the effort.

You raise good points and thank you for catching them, I am not sure
what we should do.  coreutils for example doesn't include fdl.texi,
and coreutils is generally our guideline when it comes to these
things.

Jim and co, what do you think?


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Re: inetutils ChangeLog doc/Makefile.am doc/inetuti...

2009-05-07 Thread Simon Josefsson
Alfred M. Szmidt a...@gnu.org writes:

doc/fdl.texi is removed below

If I'm understanding correctly, removing fdl.texi seems wrong to
me.  I'm supposing it's created dynamically from a copy in gnulib
or somewhere now?  But the license can't be updated merely by
changing that file.  The @copying block has to be updated also.  In
fact, the @copying block now says 1.2, but (I'm guessing) fdl.texi
v1.3 is what gets pulled in.

I think the right outcome is:
1) change 1.2 to 1.3 in @copying in inetutils.texi.

2) keep a copy of fdl[-1.3].texi in the repo.

3) in the event that the fdl is updated, both things need to be
   updated.  I don't know of any plausible way to automate it, and
   updates are so infrequent, it doesn't seem worth the effort.

 You raise good points and thank you for catching them, I am not sure
 what we should do.  coreutils for example doesn't include fdl.texi,
 and coreutils is generally our guideline when it comes to these
 things.

 Jim and co, what do you think?

After the patch I installed to inetutils [1], I think actually the only
problem is that the gnulib 'fdl' module is a moving target.  That
doesn't really work, as Karl explained, since the main manual needs to
be updated manually whenever there is a FDL version update in gnulib.

So in gnulib, I propose we deprecated 'fdl' and ask maintainers to
depend directly on 'fdl-1.3' or whatever version they need.  Thoughts?
I cc yet another list, bug-gnulib, to get this archived for the gnulib
context as well, in case we end up modifying gnulib.

Note that gnulib does not contain a 'gpl' or 'lgpl' module, only
'gpl-2.0', 'gpl-3.0', and 'lgpl-2.1'.  (Although no lgpl-3.0..)  So it
seems the 'fdl' module is sub-optimal.

/Simon

[1] http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/commit-inetutils/2009-05/msg1.html


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Re: inetutils ChangeLog doc/Makefile.am doc/inetuti...

2009-05-07 Thread Karl Berry
After the patch I installed to inetutils [1], 

Which is good, thanks.

So in gnulib, I propose we deprecated 'fdl' and ask maintainers to
depend directly on 'fdl-1.3' or whatever version they need.  Thoughts?

Makes sense to me.


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