Re: [Bug-gnubg] Huge evaluation difference

2019-03-24 Thread Øystein Schønning-Johansen
Yes. Really cool. I have earlier seen significant differences between one-sided and two-sided race evaluation, but this is not one of the positions where it is off. Some years ago, I used the same algorithm to calculate a full two-sided database for 15 checkers on 6 points. I can share it by

Re: [Bug-gnubg] Huge evaluation difference

2019-03-24 Thread Philippe Michel
On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 12:54:18PM +0100, Øystein Schønning-Johansen wrote: > Cubeless prob. of saving gammon: 0.129424 > 16: 13/12 12/6 -> 0.913103 > 16: 13/12 8/2 -> 0.938736 > 16: 13/12 7/1 -> 0.942557 > 16: 8/7 8/2 -> 0.984595 > 16: 8/7 7/1 -> 0.984930 > 16: 7/6 7/1 ->

Re: [Bug-gnubg] Huge evaluation difference

2019-03-20 Thread Philippe Michel
On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:40:41AM +0100, ?ystein Sch?nning-Johansen wrote: > I managed to calculate the gammon saving probability of the posted position > in a few minutes using about 15GB of memory. (I also have a slower version > of the tool that uses sparse matrices to store the

Re: [Bug-gnubg] Huge evaluation difference

2019-03-20 Thread Øystein Schønning-Johansen
I wrote a little tool some years ago, that calculate the "exact" value for such racing position. It calculates the probabilities with a top-down dynamic programming way and uses *-minimax algorithm to fill in the values and prune useless moves. It is really unusable in real life situation as the

Re: [Bug-gnubg] Huge evaluation difference

2019-03-19 Thread Philippe Michel
On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 10:25:52AM +0100, Terje Pedersen wrote: > I just ran into a huge evaluation difference between XG and Gnu BG: > > XGID=-BCFCA---acbb-:1:1:1:16:0:0:0:5:10 > > I got dinged with a -0.684 error here while XG says it is a -0.0013 > error to play 13/6. > >

[Bug-gnubg] Huge evaluation difference

2019-03-18 Thread Terje Pedersen
Hi! I just ran into a huge evaluation difference between XG and Gnu BG: XGID=-BCFCA---acbb-:1:1:1:16:0:0:0:5:10 I got dinged with a -0.684 error here while XG says it is a -0.0013 error to play 13/6. Desktop version says it is: 7. Cubeful 0-ply13/6