Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] Default Search Engine

[Jens Korte]

Am Sun, 28 Jan 2018 14:36:26 +0100
schrieb Marco van Hulten :

> Je 28 jan 13:31 skribis Narcis:
> > MetaGer still has the problem of prioritizing german results.
> > 
> > [examples]
> > 
> > This is not useful for me to set many people MetaGer as default
> > search engine.
>
> Here I also see an issue.
> 
> https://metager.de/returns German results.
> https://metager.de/en/ returns English results.
> https://metager.de/es/ returns German results.
> https://metager.de/nl/ does not exist.
> https://metager.de/eo/ does not exist.
> https://metager.de/no/ does not exist.
> 
> The main issue here is that the Spanish website returns links to
> German websites, instead of Spanish.

I wrote an issue at Metager [1] and linked to the mail archive of this
thread. Though the mail development is in english, I guess it is no
problem to report issues in english.

If someone is interested in translating Metager write an issue in the
gitlab or write a mail to off...@suma-ev.de . I am just a user, I can't
say anything about the priorities of the project.


> 
> Another issue (be it a bug or missing feature) is that, at least in
> IceCat, the language setting is ignored.

I reported it at 
https://gitlab.metager3.de/open-source/MetaGer/issues/666

Jens

> 
> —Marco

[1] https://gitlab.metager3.de/open-source/MetaGer/issues/665

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Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] Default Search Engine

[Marco van Hulten]

Hi all—

Before expanding on Narcis' useful criticism below, MetaGer could be a
good addition to the list of search engines in IceCat.

When we're at it, do add La Quadrature du Net as well.

https://searx.laquadrature.net/

Je 28 jan 13:31 skribis Narcis:
> MetaGer still has the problem of prioritizing german results.
> 
> [examples]
> 
> This is not useful for me to set many people MetaGer as default search
> engine.

Here I also see an issue.

https://metager.de/returns German results.
https://metager.de/en/ returns English results.
https://metager.de/es/ returns German results.
https://metager.de/nl/ does not exist.
https://metager.de/eo/ does not exist.
https://metager.de/no/ does not exist.

The main issue here is that the Spanish website returns links to German
websites, instead of Spanish.

Another issue (be it a bug or missing feature) is that, at least in
IceCat, the language setting is ignored.

—Marco

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Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] Default Search Engine

[Narcis Garcia]

MetaGer still has the problem of prioritizing german results.

Example: Select language "español" (=spanish) and search the word
Madrid. Most results are in german, when first ones should be in spanish.
Another example: Select language "español" (=spanish) and search the
word Lleida (in catalan). Most results are in german, when first ones
should be in catalan.

This is not useful for me to set many people MetaGer as default search
engine.


El 28/01/18 a les 13:08, Jens Korte ha escrit:
> Hi
> 
> I recommend https://metager.de/en or the developer version
> https://metager3.de/en . The SuMa e.V., a non-commercial
> german organisation (gemeinnütziger, eingetragener Verein [1]) runs and
> develops the search-engine. The source is available under the terms of
> AGPL3 [2].
> 
> 
> Greets
> 
> Jens Korte
> 
> [1] https://suma-ev.de/
> [2] https://gitlab.metager3.de/
> 
> Am Sun, 28 Jan 2018 12:38:35 +0100
> schrieb Marco van Hulten :
> 
>> Hello—
>>
>> When I installed IceCat on Parabola, I got the privacy conscious La
>> Quadrature as the default default search engine*.  When I installed
>> IceCat on GuixSD, I got Google as the default default search engine.
>>
>> What is the upstream default search engine?
>>
>> Should GNU distributions set this themselves?
>>
>> If the latter is the case, it would still be a good idea if the
>> upstream default default search engine were a privacy conscious
>> search engine.
>>
>>
>> Related to this issue, a bit of browsing through the files at
>> https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gnuzilla/ ** shows that the Google search
>> engine was removed in icecat-31.2.0 but not anymore in icecat-52.0.2.
>> That is probably fine (and discussed before on this mailinglist), but
>> the default should not fall back to Google.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> —Marco
>>
>> * With this I mean the default search engine that is selected when
>>   IceCat is first start, i.e. there is no ~/.mozilla/ when starting
>>   IceCat.
>> ** These appear builds, not source code as mentioned elsewhere
>>   
>> (https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/265828/cant-find-gnu-icecat-or-firefox-source-code)
>>
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> 
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Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] Default Search Engine

[Jens Korte]

Hi

I recommend https://metager.de/en or the developer version
https://metager3.de/en . The SuMa e.V., a non-commercial
german organisation (gemeinnütziger, eingetragener Verein [1]) runs and
develops the search-engine. The source is available under the terms of
AGPL3 [2].


Greets

Jens Korte

[1] https://suma-ev.de/
[2] https://gitlab.metager3.de/

Am Sun, 28 Jan 2018 12:38:35 +0100
schrieb Marco van Hulten :

> Hello—
> 
> When I installed IceCat on Parabola, I got the privacy conscious La
> Quadrature as the default default search engine*.  When I installed
> IceCat on GuixSD, I got Google as the default default search engine.
> 
> What is the upstream default search engine?
> 
> Should GNU distributions set this themselves?
> 
> If the latter is the case, it would still be a good idea if the
> upstream default default search engine were a privacy conscious
> search engine.
> 
> 
> Related to this issue, a bit of browsing through the files at
> https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gnuzilla/ ** shows that the Google search
> engine was removed in icecat-31.2.0 but not anymore in icecat-52.0.2.
> That is probably fine (and discussed before on this mailinglist), but
> the default should not fall back to Google.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> —Marco
> 
> * With this I mean the default search engine that is selected when
>   IceCat is first start, i.e. there is no ~/.mozilla/ when starting
>   IceCat.
> ** These appear builds, not source code as mentioned elsewhere
>   
> (https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/265828/cant-find-gnu-icecat-or-firefox-source-code)
> 
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[Bug-gnuzilla] Default Search Engine

[Marco van Hulten]

Hello—

When I installed IceCat on Parabola, I got the privacy conscious La
Quadrature as the default default search engine*.  When I installed
IceCat on GuixSD, I got Google as the default default search engine.

What is the upstream default search engine?

Should GNU distributions set this themselves?

If the latter is the case, it would still be a good idea if the upstream
default default search engine were a privacy conscious search engine.


Related to this issue, a bit of browsing through the files at
https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gnuzilla/ ** shows that the Google search
engine was removed in icecat-31.2.0 but not anymore in icecat-52.0.2.
That is probably fine (and discussed before on this mailinglist), but
the default should not fall back to Google.

Thanks!

—Marco

* With this I mean the default search engine that is selected when
  IceCat is first start, i.e. there is no ~/.mozilla/ when starting
  IceCat.
** These appear builds, not source code as mentioned elsewhere
  
(https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/265828/cant-find-gnu-icecat-or-firefox-source-code)

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