Hi,
On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 12:24:50AM -0400, Mach wrote:
Im using Slakware 7.1 so my gcc is version egcs-2.91.66 19990314/Linux
(egcs-1.1.2 release). I did have to install autoconf-2.54 if it
matters to anyone.
Im using this old version of Linux since I was able to build some
mach/lites
Hi,
On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 11:45:59PM +0100, Sylvain Beucler wrote:
We'd need a version of CIA:
- that support the new CVS 'loginfo' hook format (CIA's version
doesn't, the original pasky version does AFAICS). Savannah's
installation of CVS uses the new format and other loginfo scripts
Hi,
On Sat, Nov 11, 2006 at 05:05:30PM +0100, Sylvain Beucler wrote:
I added it to project 'hurd' at Savannah:
- ALL echo Notifying CIA... ciabot_cvs_1.12.pl %p %{s} %n $USER hurd
Expect a bit of additional commit delay when CIA is loaded.
Does it work?
Yes, it works :-) Thanks.
Hi,
On Thu, Nov 23, 2006 at 09:31:27PM +0200, Constantine Kousoulos wrote:
I'm trying to set up a simple server that just receives messages (not
threaded). So, i have written
[...]
Out of curiosity: Why are you working at such a low abstraction level?
You have some specific task in mind, or
Hi,
On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 10:11:13PM +0200, Constantine Kousoulos wrote:
From http://savannah.gnu.org/task/?5490: Find and implement a
suitable way to make the Hurd servers use `syslog'.
Can someone explain what this task demands to be done?
Debian's syslogd seems to be working with
Hi,
On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 06:09:58PM +0200, Constantine Kousoulos wrote:
Can you please elaborate which servers you characterise as
low-level?
Well, all the core servers operating below the POSIX level: task, exec,
proc, auth, passwd, pipe... I'm not quite sure about pfinet and ext2 --
Hi,
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 12:45:11AM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
Global pages permit to keep the kernel pages in the TLB whatever the
current process, here is a patch for supporting them. On my Pentium M,
I get a 5% speedup on dd /dev/zero bs=1 /dev/null .
When was the extension
Hi,
On Tue, Jan 02, 2007 at 12:19:44PM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote:
2006-12-30 Richard Braun [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Added alignment support in the zone allocator.
* kern/zalloc.c (ALIGN_SIZE_UP): New macro.
In general (also for Samuel): you don't have to write these
Hi,
On Wed, Jan 03, 2007 at 12:55:21PM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote:
On Tue, Jan 02, 2007 at 10:21:14PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
BTW, why is the CVS holding generated files like configure co?
Since we all have variouns versios of autoconf/automake, the cvs
diff output is cluttered
Hi,
On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 11:22:20PM +, Samuel Thibault wrote:
Because of limitation of the Mach kernel, nice values are divided by
two for getting a Mach priority (MACH_PRIORITY_TO_NICE), and mach
priority is multiplied by two for getting a nice value
(NICE_TO_MACH_PRIORITY).
That
Hi,
On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 11:36:01PM +, massimo s. wrote:
I noticed that gconf-schemas was hung (even overnight) until ctrl-c is
pressed.
[...]
When using ctrl-c python gives the following traceback, showing the
instruction where it hangs:
[...]
File /usr/lib/python2.4/os.py, line
Hi,
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 06:16:22PM +, massimo s. wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:
Does it also hang if you don't have a translator there at all?
If I settrans -fg /dev/urandom yes, it hangs.
settrans -fg only removes the active translator, but the passive one is
still there,
Hi,
On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 09:30:32PM +0100, Neal H. Walfield wrote:
The syslog facility could be implemented as follows:
The program which starts a translator opens /dev/klog on the
translator's behalf and inserts the file descriptor into the
translator's stdout and stderr.
[...]
An
Hi,
On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 01:47:04AM +0100, Pierre THIERRY wrote:
The system you vaguely describe wouldn't be much easier to add in
Mach, the kernel currently used by the Hurd, than in any other free
kernel.
I wouldn't say that. Note that the main driving idea behind the Hurd
architecture,
Hi,
On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 02:44:46PM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote:
An open issue to me so far is if we can find an efficient way to
continue providing `libshouldbeinlibc''s `maptime' interface.
The real question to ask is: Why did the original Mach designers pay so
much attention to an
Hi,
On Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 03:53:59PM -0500, Ben Asselstine wrote:
I have found that the bootstrapping section of the manual is sorely
lacking.
Attached is a patch that adds more information to the manual regarding
the bootstrap procedure on the Hurd. I have also removed some of the
Hi,
On Sat, Mar 10, 2007 at 11:33:33AM +, Thomas Schwinge wrote:
Olaf, can you confirm that this also fixes the underlying problem for
you?
It does. And the bug was really obvious; I'm pretty crestfallen that I
didn't spot it myself :-(
I'll consider to apply the assertion-adding parts
HI,
On Sat, Mar 10, 2007 at 05:36:40PM +, Thomas Schwinge wrote:
It should be allowed for the system's default servers to be easily
overridden. (By setting environment variables, for example.)
This is partly implemented for the `crash' server (albeit largely
untested) and has been
Hi,
On Sat, Mar 10, 2007 at 02:20:40AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have also removed some of the deprecated serverboot documentation.
Actually, I think a considerable part of the stuff you want to remove
also applies to the boot command used for subhurds, so is really
useful,
Hi,
On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 12:27:09AM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote:
http://savannah.gnu.org/task/?5469 -- Rewrite pfinet
The libchannel project should be done before, or at least in parallel,
I'd say.
[...]
http://savannah.gnu.org/task/?5485 -- Design and implement a sound
system
Both
Hi,
On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 11:16:13PM +0100, Richard Braun wrote:
Here is a proposal for a Google Summer of Code project : rpctrace is
one of the most useful debugging tools on the Hurd. It could help a
lot in understanding some of the bugs of the system. Unfortunately, it
can hardly be
Hi,
On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 09:13:09PM +0100, Richard Braun wrote:
The second and most important point you didn't mention in your
proposal concerns ioctls. Unlike block devices, there are lots of
ioctls on character devices, and unlike a common Unix like system, GNU
Mach doesn't handle
Hi,
On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 10:49:40PM -0400, Barry deFreese wrote:
how hard would it be to generalize the glue layer and let us load
drivers as modules instead?
Not sure what you mean. Generalize in what regard?
-antrik-
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Hi,
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 06:00:24PM +0800, Wei Shen wrote:
2) Let the root fs server judge which server port to return on a
specific name qurry.
3) Modify hurd_file_name_lookup function in the C lib. If necessary,
replace the default sever name to the name of an overiding server
before
Hi,
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 10:50:49AM +, Tim Retout wrote:
On Wed, 2007-03-21 at 08:09 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Implementing the possibility of attaching rpctrace to running
processes, is one possible thing that could be done. But there are
many others, like adding ability to
Hi,
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 10:08:35AM -0400, Barry deFreese wrote:
I suppose that depends on who you ask. Some of the bigwigs are
looking at a totally new system based on Coyotos.
Minor nitpick: My latest impression was that Marcus doesn't have any
preference for Coyotos anymore; the new L4
Hi,
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 02:16:20AM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote:
On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 08:09:31AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
However, I didn't propose this so far, as tschwinge seems to have a
perfectly opposite opinion than me on what are suitable tasks and
what aren't.
Hi,
On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 11:47:09PM +0800, Wei Shen wrote:
On 3/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For comparision, did you evaluate the straight-forward approach to
check
environment variables in libc *before* the name lookup? I.e. instead
of diverting the name lookup of the default location,
Hi,
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 10:35:00AM +0800, Wei Shen wrote:
On 3/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If so, how can we handle the case that applications directly call
hurd_file_name_lookup to find a server?
Interesting question... Of course, this case wouldn't be covered.
Hi,
On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 01:52:09AM +0200, Thomas Schwinge wrote:
It was reported that the `tmpfs' translator doesn't really work and is
thus not usable for being installed on `/dev/shm', so I propose the
following for the mean time:
#v+
$ sudo settrans -cpgf /dev/shm /bin/sh -c
Hi,
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 07:35:34PM -0700, Roland McGrath wrote:
Fixing tmpfs shouldn't be so bad. Is anyone trying?
A while back, someone (I think Sergio Lopez) analized it, and concluded
that it's not easy to fix :-(
Anyways, IIRC the problem was only with actually reading/writing data.
Hi,
On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 05:32:29PM +0200, Thomas Schwinge wrote:
On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 03:16:56PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Last but not least, as I mentioned twice already, /hurd/ext2fs
probably doesn't work for shm! (At least it didn't when I last tried
it.) You need to
Hi,
On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 10:50:26PM +0200, Thomas Schwinge wrote:
The same happens when passing NULL file names to `open' and a lot (if
not all) of their friends.
Yes, that was the Qt situation.
So, should instead `file_name_lookup' or `hurd_file_name_lookup' be
made robust enough to
Hi,
On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 10:56:18AM +0200, Neal H. Walfield wrote:
Legacy compatibility has always ruled the day.
Standards compatibility, not bug compatibility...
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Hi,
On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 08:13:48PM +0200, Thomas Schwinge wrote:
* linux/src/drivers/net/ne.c (bad_clone_list): Add the RealTek
8029 PCI card's signature.
I'd like to point out again that my RealTek 8029 PCI card did work
before. So either there are different signatures for
Hi,
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 06:59:07PM +, Samuel Thibault wrote:
Which testcase makes the dynamic loader crash? I tried compiling 2.5
with z_relro, I am currently using it, and it seems to work fine.
The original relro problem was that the dynamic loader crashes if not
stripped. No idea
Hi,
On Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 08:26:05PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
What about a different strategy, one more hurdish? For example, run
the program in a pseudo-chroot which overrides the behavior of nodes
inside /servers?
I don't know how much you have read of my previous discussion
Hi,
On Sun, Jun 24, 2007 at 11:07:26PM +0200, Jose Luis Alarcon Sanchez wrote:
ldconfig: /lib/libslapi-2.3.so.0 is not a simbolic link
ldconfig: /lib/libldap_r-2.3.so.0 is not a simbolic link
ldconfig: /lib/libldap-2.3.so.0 is not a simbolic link
ldconfig: /lib/liblber-2.3.so.0 is not
Hi,
On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 03:00:54AM +0200, Michael Banck wrote:
The following program works fine in a real installation, but fails with
EADDRNOTAVAIL if run in a chroot:
I think I get the same effect: Running it the first time (non-chrooted
Linux or Hurd) works; second run always gets
Hi,
On Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 11:15:11PM +0200, Jose Luis Alarcon Sanchez wrote:
Option DDC False
This option got the nv driver works fine. ;)
This reminds me that I actually had the same problem with mga driver on
my machine (Pentium3). IIRC it didn't really hang, though; startup was
only
Hi,
On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 08:53:58PM -0400, Michael Casadevall wrote:
The administrator of the old wiki stopped validating new accounts in
preparation for the move;
AFAIK the opposite is true: We need a new wiki because the adminstrator
of the old one can't do the validation anymore.
I
Hi,
On Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 01:04:01AM -0400, Michael Casadevall wrote:
+ void entropy_putchar(int c) {
[...]
+ if (entropy_write_offset == ENTROPYBUFSIZE) {
+ entropy_write_offset = 0;
+ }
+
+ if (entropy_write_offset == ENTROPYBUFSIZE) {
+ entropy_write_offset = 0;
+
Hi,
On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 01:52:39AM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
What do you perceive as the benefit of having the entropy mixing
function outside of the device framework in its own user space server?
The very same reasons why we bother with this microkernel stuff at all:
- Reducing
Hi,
On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 09:35:01PM +0200, Carl Fredrik Hammar wrote:
Suppose we want to record some audio which we may read from
/dev/sound/audio, which is a channelio translator. Additionaly we
want to broadcast the audio onto our internet radio station. These
tasks are handled by
Hi,
On Sun, Jul 22, 2007 at 02:36:32PM -0400, Richard Stallman wrote:
There may be a misunderstanding. Two different issues were raised:
getting Hurd-related changes into Glibc, and getting changes into the
Hurd.
Well yes. While the glibc issue seems to have turned out mostly a
Hi,
On Wed, Jul 25, 2007 at 09:17:49PM -0400, Michael Casadevall wrote:
Hurdng - the project of porting hurd translators to another
microkernel beside mach such as L4.
That is not fully correct. The original port to L4 was simply named
Hurd/L4 -- which is exactly what it was: A port of the
Hi,
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 12:59:39PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
It's delusional to think that the problems of the Hurd are related to
a choice of the version control system.
Well, part of the problems are. We have to start somewhere. And fixing
the VCS issue seems the most trivial, so
Hi,
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 09:24:32PM +0200, Carl Fredrik Hammar wrote:
My solution is simple enough; they should all be implemented in
channels (as opposed to being implemented in channelio.) This will be
more general and give the user more control. The downside is that it
will be a bit
Hi,
On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 09:05:14PM +0800, Wei Shen wrote:
I made a try to implement a basic way of socket servers (pfinet and
pflocal) overriding, as described below.
Great :-)
(1) Should we disable the overrding mechanism for SUID or SGID
processes ( e.g. substituting
Hi,
On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 08:39:55AM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
It could be different if we had a good single entropy source in every
computer. Unfortunately, entropy devices are a rarity.
That's not true. Intel introduced hardware random number generators in
their chipsets like ten
Hi,
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 01:33:12PM +0200, Anders Breindahl wrote:
I recall something about fork()s being expensive on the Hurd/Mach, and
that someone ran tests that showed 500forks per second versus a
somewhat larger figure on Linux.
The somewhat larger figure was actually something like
Hi,
On Mon, Aug 13, 2007 at 03:08:27PM +0200, Carl Fredrik Hammar wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I will use channel for the object that a client interacts with, i.e.
one is created whenever the translator is opened.
That is what I call a channel instance. You can also call it a channel
Hi,
On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 05:23:45PM +0200, Carl Fredrik Hammar wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Channel instances are pretty much of an internal detail IMHO. When a
user thinks of setting up a channel, he doesn't care about
individual client connections; it's the whole entity he thinks
Hi,
On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 02:14:38PM +0200, Carl Fredrik Hammar wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 05:23:45PM +0200, Carl Fredrik Hammar wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Channel instances are pretty much of an internal detail IMHO.
When a user thinks of setting
Hi,
On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 02:14:38PM +0200, Carl Fredrik Hammar wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
First a slight change in terminology, I will call an in-tee a
`broadcast' and an out-tee simply a `tee'.
Well, for one, broadcast doesn't really fit here strictly speaking --
multicast seems
Hi,
On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 02:14:38PM +0200, Carl Fredrik Hammar wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 05:23:45PM +0200, Carl Fredrik Hammar wrote:
But one might be able to use generic junctions if one layers a
channel that makes sure all reads and writes are in whole
Hi,
On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 02:14:38PM +0200, Carl Fredrik Hammar wrote:
I'm not familiar with `kitten', and it didn't turn up in any of the
searches I made. But I like its name :-), could you give me some
pointers to where it's described?
I don't think it is described anywhere. Maybe it
Hi,
On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 11:21:20PM +0200, Thomas Schwinge wrote:
From: Shakthi Kannan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Hurd Hacking Guide, for example, didn't take me much further
(lot of TODOs):
http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hacking-guide/hhg.html
For what it's worth, Ben Asselstine has
Hi,
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 02:41:35PM -0500, R. Steven Rainwater wrote:
On Tue, 2007-09-18 at 17:37, Samuel Thibault wrote:
R. Steven Rainwater, le Tue 18 Sep 2007 17:28:00 -0500, a écrit :
But what would be more helpful for me right now is a How to
become a Hurd Hacker tutorial
Hi,
On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 07:08:31PM -0400, Ben Asselstine wrote:
I would appreciate any feedback at all.
I finally got around to reading through it. Nice work -- I like the
examples you added :-)
Here are a couple of nitpicks (about everything that is in the new
version; don't remember
Hi,
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 12:22:55PM +0200, Thomas Schwinge wrote:
This means that GCC 4.1.3 or newer needs to be used for compiling.
But this is fine in my opinion, so I didn't add a configure-time check
to see whether such a modern compiler is indeed being used.
Certainly it's fine to
Hi,
This fix dedicated to Linus Torvalds -- it was the git test suite that
originally uncovered the problem ;-)
In diskfs_S_dir_rename(), the second call to diskfs_lookup() returns a
reference (with lock) in tfp. In some cases, this reference isn't
dropped before return: When there is already a
Hi,
On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 01:08:13AM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote:
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 02:36:09PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 12:22:55PM +0200, Thomas Schwinge wrote:
This means that GCC 4.1.3 or newer needs to be used for compiling.
But this is fine in
Hi,
On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 08:20:54PM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote:
Question: do we want to have a Developer Room for giving talks, doing
hacking, etc.?
Yes, I think we should try to get one if we can. People attending get
much more out of the conference this way.
What do we have to tell?
Hi,
On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 02:10:05PM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote:
On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 04:44:59AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I disagree. The configure script is responsible for ensuring a
working build, or give a useful error message if it can't. A failure
during the actual
Hi,
(Sorry for the crosspost. It is mostly for bug-hurd, but it is also
related to things discussed on the other lists in the past.)
The main idea behind the Hurd architecture, setting it apart from the
monolithical mainstream systems, is the ability for users to modify
and/or extend for
Hi,
On Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 02:43:16PM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote:
| antrik ouch... seems I can't boot my pre-TLS partition in a subhurd :-(
[...]
| antrik I wonder whether it can be upgraded in chroot?...
Should work, I think.
Yes, that worked fine.
-antrik-
Hi,
An issue that repeatedly came up in the past, is Hurd (and related)
patches often not getting applied. (Most recently on gnu-system-dicsuss,
though it's arguably somewhat off-topic for this list...)
It was quite interesting to find a remarkably similar discussion on the
Xorg mailing list
Hi,
On Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 11:41:45PM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote:
On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 02:06:58PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
http://tri-ceps.blogspot.com/2007/10/advanced-lightweight-virtualization.html
Well written! I put up a link to it on
Hi,
On Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 01:48:36AM +0530, Shakthi Kannan wrote:
- On Dec 8, 2007 12:32 AM, Shakthi Kannan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: | I would like get a big picture on how servers, ports, message
queues, | libraries, system calls, IPC, gnumach, drivers, hardware et.
al. are | layered.
Hi,
On Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 12:39:47PM +0530, Shakthi Kannan wrote:
Is this little better? (have updated the image again):
http://shakthimaan.com/downloads/hurd/gnu-hurd-mach-system-architecture.png
The current version is much more correct than the original, yes. (Not
totally precise in some
Hi,
On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 11:45:31PM -0800, Praveen A wrote:
Glibc sits in between the userspace and mach. It provides the complete
posix api on top of mach. So all the libraries and translators use
glibc.
This statement is correct, but a bit misleading: glibc does not provide
the POSIX
Hi,
On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 12:17:24AM +0530, Shakthi Kannan wrote:
How do core developers go through Hurd servers/library or gnumach
functions? Do you use etags/ctags?
Everyone uses what suits him best :-)
As for myself (definitely not a core developer), I'm using ctags
extensively, which
Hi,
Thanks for debugging this! Forwarding it to the appropriate list.
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Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:44:37 +0200
From: Kalle Olavi Niemitalo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [elinks-dev] The Links/Links2/ELinks
Hi,
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 06:54:55PM +0100, Carl Fredrik Hammar wrote:
I'd like to consolidate my thoughts into a text and hopefully get some
feedback. This will done in a series of mails, this first one will be
a critique of my previous design and some conclusions drawn from it.
[...]
I
Hi,
This time I have a bit more to say... ;-)
On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 09:56:48PM +0100, Carl Fredrik Hammar wrote:
Old channels are required to implement a subset of the Hurds io
interface. But they also have the ability to implement arbitrary
interfaces to deal with the additional
Hi,
Sorry for answering that late again. We do seem to have a very bad
timing -- that's the second time your mail arrives just at the beginnig
of a longer period of email abstinence on my side ;-)
On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 01:57:55PM +0100, Carl Fredrik Hammar wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi,
(CCing to bug-hurd, as this is the right list for such things.)
On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 11:56:50AM -0500, Abrahm Scully wrote:
What would cause
echo 'puts [info tclversion]' | /usr/bin/tclsh8.4 -
to print 8.4, but
echo `echo 'puts [info tclversion]' | /usr/bin/tclsh8.4 -`
to
Hi,
For those who haven't heard it yet on IRC (and also a reminder for the
others): Unlike the last two years, when we only participated under the
umbrella of the GNU project, this year we want to participate in GSoC as
an organisation on our own.
I don't know whether this will result in getting
Hi,
On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 11:43:12PM +0100, Carl Fredrik Hammar wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Especially the project list needs work. Some of the project
descriptions are only skeletons; I lack the knowledge to fill in the
details. But I know that some of you have much better
Hi,
On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 10:17:05PM -0400, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 01:19 +, Samuel Thibault wrote:
This thread is syncing everything, i.e. asking a lot of writes,
which triggers the creation of a lot of threads. Unfortunately the
superblock was paged out,
Hi,
A little status update: The participation deadline for organisations
passed yesterday.
It's all over now -- those who didn't contribute to the organisation
application and student application form drafts (which includes YOU),
have managed to get away.
Oh, and yes: Amazingly, I actually
Hi,
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 03:08:31PM +0100, Carl Fredrik Hammar wrote:
Now to a real issue. While there's nothing wrong with the project as
such (in fact it's quite a good idea), I think most of the project is
more in the domain of distributions, e.g. Debian, rather then the Hurd
itself.
Hi,
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 08:38:14AM -0600, Michael Heath wrote:
People had their reasons or lack of motivation for contributing or
participating.
But motivation enough for complaining about my lovely little mail? :-)
A responsible person would (at least in the future) choose the logical
Hi,
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 04:23:34PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote:
A developer blog (i.e. something which is shared by all the active
developers, and only has entries regarding current developments) might
be interesting
Sounds interesting indeed.
Are you willing to take care of that? :-)
Hi,
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 02:52:04PM +, Samuel Thibault wrote:
BTW, I wonder why the wiki modifications should be so slow. Are there
so many things to do in the wiki engine to perform that action?
Seems that updating the HTML pages is really so slow. On my Hurd machine
(1 GHz P3, 512
Hi,
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 12:10:17PM +0100, Neal H. Walfield wrote:
using some kind of continuation mechanism: Have a limited number of
threads (ideally one per CPU) handle incoming requests. Whenever
some operation would require blocking for some event (in the case of
diskfs, waiting
Hi,
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 10:03:29PM +0100, Carl Fredrik Hammar wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You would soon have to decide whether you want to apply as student
again, or mentor the project. (Or just do it independently as you
planned...) It's not possible to do both :-)
But I
Hi,
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 10:02:56AM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
I'm sorry I didn't contribute.
First of all I didn't think I could really help, since my knowledge of
HURD internals is limited to some surface stuff (that's what you learn
in informatics courses).
I'm sorry --
Hi,
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 03:58:33PM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
El Friday, 14 de March de 2008 15:08:31 Carl Fredrik Hammar escribió:
Most of the recent changes has been on the L4 branch, which was
originally an attempt to port Hurd to the L4 micro kernel. That
didn't work out
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On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 04:02:37PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote:
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 02:16:31PM +, Samuel Thibault wrote:
Actually, while reading the proposal, I thought well, that mostly
means advertising the K* CDs
Which is where I failed. I wrote up an announcement, but was
Hi,
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 11:19:32AM +, Samuel Thibault wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED], le Tue 11 Mar 2008 04:53:45 +0100, a écrit :
[I] suggested a more adaptive approach: Keep track of the existing
threads, and if none of them makes progress in a certain amount of
time (say 100 ms),
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On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 03:56:47PM -0400, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
The clever way is to identify the particular things in the stack which
must be saved, and throw the rest away, and then restart the
continuation with the few things that really matter. This is what the
kernel does
Hi,
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 02:49:22PM +, Samuel Thibault wrote:
I found Olaf's mail was actually quite diplomatic, considering the
very low help he got on this.
Indeed :-) I tried to wrap my disappointment in a lot of irony, hoping
that it would stick, but not seem to bitter a
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On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 06:20:10PM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote:
First: I'm still alive! And even doing well!
Good news ;-)
Sorry for my absence. I was really busy with preparing for my
university exams and real life and there really wasn't any quality
time left for doing GNU stuff,
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On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 10:41:01AM +, Samuel Thibault wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED], le Sun 16 Mar 2008 08:52:56 +0100, a écrit :
What makes me wonder is, how can it happen in the first place that
so many requests are generated before the superblock is requested
during handling of the
Hi,
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 12:52:17AM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote:
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 07:48:25AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's just really bad luck, you absence at this very time... You are
indeed the one hoped to get most help from. If I had known about this
before, I may
Hi,
On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 03:11:21PM +0100, Carl Fredrik Hammar wrote:
Ikiwiki seems to recompile markdown to html after every change. If it
unnecessarily recompiles the *entire* wiki after each edit
It doesn't. It first checks which files have changed, and then
recompiles only the
Hi,
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 10:13:01AM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
It's just darn hard to write a somewhat funny mail while being really
annoyed, but not trying is worse, I think.
And I think you good a great job at it.
Thanks :-)
I think one reason, why the contribution was so
Hi,
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 12:26:30PM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
El Sunday, 16 de March de 2008 20:55:08 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
escribió:
When we had the HURD in my informatics class, one task was to find
out information about the HURD, and as I searched for information
on the
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