Re: Have any difficulties arisen with the Lua scripting languaje into Hurd?
El Wed, 11 Feb 2026 16:19:40 +0100 Samuel Thibault escribió: > Diego Nieto Cid, le mer. 11 févr. 2026 11:12:34 -0300, a ecrit: > > This is the line with the assert: > > > > > > [3]https://sources.debian.org/src/webkit2gtk/2.50.5-1/Source/JavaScriptCore > > /heap/StructureAlignedMemoryAllocator.cpp#L106 > > > > And structureIDMask is defined as 4GB - 1 here: > > > > > > [4]https://sources.debian.org/src/webkit2gtk/2.50.5-1/Source/JavaScriptCore > > /runtime/StructureID.h?hl=73#L56 > > > > I'm not sure, but it seems the code at > > StructureAlignedMemoryAllocator.cpp is trying to allocate 4GB and, > > since gnumach is in the dpkg log, I have to ask how much memory > > does the hurd have? > I usually run Debian GNU/Hurd with 3 Gb. RAM + 128 Mb. Swap (swapfile) > Also, checking the output of > > ulimit -v > $ ulimit -v 3145532 $ > Possibly, that would be a case for implementing MAP_NORESERVE. > > Samuel > > > > > THX. > > Jose Luis. > > > > References: > > > > [1] mailto:[email protected] > > [2] mailto:[email protected] > > [3] > > https://sources.debian.org/src/webkit2gtk/2.50.5-1/Source/JavaScriptCore/heap/ > > [4] > > https://sources.debian.org/src/webkit2gtk/2.50.5-1/Source/JavaScriptCore/runtime/StructureID.h?hl=73#L56 > > [5] mailto:[email protected] [6] mailto:[email protected] > > [7] mailto:[email protected] [8] > > mailto:[email protected] [9] https://lordofunix.org/ > Thanks!. Jose Luis. -- https://lordofunix.org/ Not Registered GNU/Hurd User. Registered BSD User 51101. Registered Linux User #213309. Memories. You are talking about memories. Rick Deckard. Blade Runner. pgpNzFHOW5XNN.pgp Description: Firma digital OpenPGP
Re: Fwd: Have any difficulties arisen with the Lua scripting languaje into Hurd?
Diego Nieto Cid, le mer. 11 févr. 2026 11:12:34 -0300, a ecrit: > This is the line with the assert: > > > [3]https://sources.debian.org/src/webkit2gtk/2.50.5-1/Source/JavaScriptCore > /heap/StructureAlignedMemoryAllocator.cpp#L106 > > And structureIDMask is defined as 4GB - 1 here: > > > [4]https://sources.debian.org/src/webkit2gtk/2.50.5-1/Source/JavaScriptCore > /runtime/StructureID.h?hl=73#L56 > > I'm not sure, but it seems the code at StructureAlignedMemoryAllocator.cpp is > trying to allocate 4GB and, since > gnumach is in the dpkg log, I have to ask how much memory does the hurd have? Also, checking the output of ulimit -v Possibly, that would be a case for implementing MAP_NORESERVE. Samuel > El mié, 11 feb 2026 a las 10:08, Jose Luis Alarcon Sanchez (<[5] > [email protected]>) escribió: > > El Wed, 11 Feb 2026 12:55:07 +0100 > Samuel Thibault <[6][email protected]> escribió: > > Jose Luis Alarcon Sanchez, le mer. 11 févr. 2026 11:00:27 +0100, a > > ecrit: > > > El Tue, 10 Feb 2026 22:53:39 +0100 > > > Samuel Thibault <[7][email protected]> escribió: > > > > Jose Luis Alarcon Sanchez, le mar. 10 févr. 2026 20:41:38 +0100, a > > > > ecrit: > > > > > El Tue, 10 Feb 2026 19:23:17 +0100 > > > > > Samuel Thibault <[8][email protected]> escribió: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > Jose Luis Alarcon Sanchez, le mar. 10 févr. 2026 15:37:08 > > > > > > +0100, a ecrit: > > > > > > > How is it possible that at the end of last year, from one > > > > > > > day to the next, the two best web browsers available on > > > > > > > GNU/Hurd, Luakit and Surf, which are very similar and based > > > > > > > on the same scripting language, Lua, went from working very > > > > > > > satisfactorily to instantly terminating when launched, with > > > > > > > the brief output ‘abort’? > > > > > > > > > > > > Because of a bug? The abort message would probably be very > > > > > > informative. Or a gdb backtrace, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it possible to investigate why this happened?. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure. For a simple start, you can check what package got > > > > > > upgraded in between, and then try to downgrade/upgrade to > > > > > > verify which exact package pose problems. But also simply > > > > > > actually pasting the abortion message would provide the list > > > > > > with *way* more information than just "terminates". > > > > > > > > > > I don't know how to get a "register" of the upgrades realized at > > > > > that time (it was last week of 2025, i'm sure of it). > > > > > > > > It's all in /var/log/dpkg.log > > > > > > > > > > Ok. Attached a short extract of /var/log/dpkg.log. I am 100% sure > > > that the changes that triggered the browsers falilure was made on > > > December 29th. Also including the day before and the day after. > > > > Then you can try to downgrade/reupgrade, to confirm which one poses > > problem. > > > > I'd like downgrade the libjavascriptcoregtk and try to run the > browsers... > > > > #6 0x000108e4bfcd in __GI_abort () at ./stdlib/abort.c:77 > > > #7 0x000107ae1bec in ??? () at > > > /usr/lib/x86_64-gnu/libjavascriptcoregtk-4.1.so.0 #8 > > > 0x000107f76912 in ??? () at > > > /usr/lib/x86_64-gnu/libjavascriptcoregtk-4.1.so.0 > > > > So you want to install the -dbgsym package for that library, to get > > source code information > > > > First time using 'gdb' tool. Fast learning curve, i think. Attached > luakit_crash.log with the tool correctly applied. > > > Samuel > > > > THX. > Jose Luis. > > -- > [9]https://lordofunix.org/ > > Usuario GNU/Hurd no registrado. > Usuario BSD registrado 51101. > Usuario Linux registrado #213309. > Una vez mas cabalgaré con mis caballeros, > para defender lo que fue. > y el sueño de lo que pudo ser. > > > Not Registered GNU/Hurd User. > Registered BSD User 51101. > Registered Linux User #213309. > Memories. You are talking about memories. > Rick Deckard. Blade Runner. > > > References: > > [1] mailto:[email protected] > [2] mailto:[email protected] > [3] > https://sources.debian.org/src/webkit2gtk/2.50.5-1/Source/JavaScriptCore/heap/ > [4] > https://sources.debian.org/src/webkit2gtk/2.50.5-1/Source/JavaScriptCore/runtime/StructureID.h?hl=73#L56 > [5] mailto:[email protected] > [6] mailto:[email protected] > [7] mailto:[email protected] > [8] mailto:[email protected] > [9] https://lordofunix.org/ -- Samuel >bah moi j'aime bien le flash et je cherche plus a comprendre >crosoft. Ca plante : je reinstalle Ca à le mérite de créer des emplois jeunes : "réinstalleur de crosoft" -+- BD in NPC : Bill Gates au secours de
Fwd: Have any difficulties arisen with the Lua scripting languaje into Hurd?
Sorry, I meant to copy the list too :( -- Forwarded message - De: Diego Nieto Cid Date: mié, 11 feb 2026 a las 11:11 Subject: Re: Have any difficulties arisen with the Lua scripting languaje into Hurd? To: Jose Luis Alarcon Sanchez Hi, This is the line with the assert: https://sources.debian.org/src/webkit2gtk/2.50.5-1/Source/JavaScriptCore/heap/ StructureAlignedMemoryAllocator.cpp#L106 And structureIDMask is defined as 4GB - 1 here: https://sources.debian.org/src/webkit2gtk/2.50.5-1/Source/JavaScriptCore/runtime/StructureID.h?hl=73#L56 I'm not sure, but it seems the code at StructureAlignedMemoryAllocator.cpp is trying to allocate 4GB and, since gnumach is in the dpkg log, I have to ask how much memory does the hurd have? Cheers, Diego El mié, 11 feb 2026 a las 10:08, Jose Luis Alarcon Sanchez (< [email protected]>) escribió: > El Wed, 11 Feb 2026 12:55:07 +0100 > Samuel Thibault escribió: > > Jose Luis Alarcon Sanchez, le mer. 11 févr. 2026 11:00:27 +0100, a > > ecrit: > > > El Tue, 10 Feb 2026 22:53:39 +0100 > > > Samuel Thibault escribió: > > > > Jose Luis Alarcon Sanchez, le mar. 10 févr. 2026 20:41:38 +0100, a > > > > ecrit: > > > > > El Tue, 10 Feb 2026 19:23:17 +0100 > > > > > Samuel Thibault escribió: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > Jose Luis Alarcon Sanchez, le mar. 10 févr. 2026 15:37:08 > > > > > > +0100, a ecrit: > > > > > > > How is it possible that at the end of last year, from one > > > > > > > day to the next, the two best web browsers available on > > > > > > > GNU/Hurd, Luakit and Surf, which are very similar and based > > > > > > > on the same scripting language, Lua, went from working very > > > > > > > satisfactorily to instantly terminating when launched, with > > > > > > > the brief output ‘abort’? > > > > > > > > > > > > Because of a bug? The abort message would probably be very > > > > > > informative. Or a gdb backtrace, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it possible to investigate why this happened?. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure. For a simple start, you can check what package got > > > > > > upgraded in between, and then try to downgrade/upgrade to > > > > > > verify which exact package pose problems. But also simply > > > > > > actually pasting the abortion message would provide the list > > > > > > with *way* more information than just "terminates". > > > > > > > > > > I don't know how to get a "register" of the upgrades realized at > > > > > that time (it was last week of 2025, i'm sure of it). > > > > > > > > It's all in /var/log/dpkg.log > > > > > > > > > > Ok. Attached a short extract of /var/log/dpkg.log. I am 100% sure > > > that the changes that triggered the browsers falilure was made on > > > December 29th. Also including the day before and the day after. > > > > Then you can try to downgrade/reupgrade, to confirm which one poses > > problem. > > > > I'd like downgrade the libjavascriptcoregtk and try to run the > browsers... > > > > #6 0x000108e4bfcd in __GI_abort () at ./stdlib/abort.c:77 > > > #7 0x000107ae1bec in ??? () at > > > /usr/lib/x86_64-gnu/libjavascriptcoregtk-4.1.so.0 #8 > > > 0x000107f76912 in ??? () at > > > /usr/lib/x86_64-gnu/libjavascriptcoregtk-4.1.so.0 > > > > So you want to install the -dbgsym package for that library, to get > > source code information > > > > First time using 'gdb' tool. Fast learning curve, i think. Attached > luakit_crash.log with the tool correctly applied. > > > Samuel > > > > THX. > Jose Luis. > > -- > https://lordofunix.org/ > > Usuario GNU/Hurd no registrado. > Usuario BSD registrado 51101. > Usuario Linux registrado #213309. > Una vez mas cabalgaré con mis caballeros, > para defender lo que fue. > y el sueño de lo que pudo ser. > > > Not Registered GNU/Hurd User. > Registered BSD User 51101. > Registered Linux User #213309. > Memories. You are talking about memories. > Rick Deckard. Blade Runner. >
Re: Have any difficulties arisen with the Lua scripting languaje into Hurd?
El Wed, 11 Feb 2026 12:55:07 +0100
Samuel Thibault escribió:
> Jose Luis Alarcon Sanchez, le mer. 11 févr. 2026 11:00:27 +0100, a
> ecrit:
> > El Tue, 10 Feb 2026 22:53:39 +0100
> > Samuel Thibault escribió:
> > > Jose Luis Alarcon Sanchez, le mar. 10 févr. 2026 20:41:38 +0100, a
> > > ecrit:
> > > > El Tue, 10 Feb 2026 19:23:17 +0100
> > > > Samuel Thibault escribió:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > Jose Luis Alarcon Sanchez, le mar. 10 févr. 2026 15:37:08
> > > > > +0100, a ecrit:
> > > > > > How is it possible that at the end of last year, from one
> > > > > > day to the next, the two best web browsers available on
> > > > > > GNU/Hurd, Luakit and Surf, which are very similar and based
> > > > > > on the same scripting language, Lua, went from working very
> > > > > > satisfactorily to instantly terminating when launched, with
> > > > > > the brief output ‘abort’?
> > > > >
> > > > > Because of a bug? The abort message would probably be very
> > > > > informative. Or a gdb backtrace, etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Is it possible to investigate why this happened?.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sure. For a simple start, you can check what package got
> > > > > upgraded in between, and then try to downgrade/upgrade to
> > > > > verify which exact package pose problems. But also simply
> > > > > actually pasting the abortion message would provide the list
> > > > > with *way* more information than just "terminates".
> > > >
> > > > I don't know how to get a "register" of the upgrades realized at
> > > > that time (it was last week of 2025, i'm sure of it).
> > >
> > > It's all in /var/log/dpkg.log
> > >
> >
> > Ok. Attached a short extract of /var/log/dpkg.log. I am 100% sure
> > that the changes that triggered the browsers falilure was made on
> > December 29th. Also including the day before and the day after.
>
> Then you can try to downgrade/reupgrade, to confirm which one poses
> problem.
>
I'd like downgrade the libjavascriptcoregtk and try to run the
browsers...
> > #6 0x000108e4bfcd in __GI_abort () at ./stdlib/abort.c:77
> > #7 0x000107ae1bec in ??? () at
> > /usr/lib/x86_64-gnu/libjavascriptcoregtk-4.1.so.0 #8
> > 0x000107f76912 in ??? () at
> > /usr/lib/x86_64-gnu/libjavascriptcoregtk-4.1.so.0
>
> So you want to install the -dbgsym package for that library, to get
> source code information
>
First time using 'gdb' tool. Fast learning curve, i think. Attached
luakit_crash.log with the tool correctly applied.
> Samuel
>
THX.
Jose Luis.
--
https://lordofunix.org/
Usuario GNU/Hurd no registrado.
Usuario BSD registrado 51101.
Usuario Linux registrado #213309.
Una vez mas cabalgaré con mis caballeros,
para defender lo que fue.
y el sueño de lo que pudo ser.
Not Registered GNU/Hurd User.
Registered BSD User 51101.
Registered Linux User #213309.
Memories. You are talking about memories.
Rick Deckard. Blade Runner.
Starting program: /usr/bin/luakit
[bogus thread id 1 exited]
[bogus thread id 2 exited]
[bogus thread id 3 exited]
[New Thread 1688.5]
[New Thread 1688.6]
[New Thread 1688.7]
[New Thread 1688.8]
[New Thread 1688.9]
Thread 4 received signal SIGABRT, Aborted.
0x000108e4ccac in __GI___mach_msg_trap () at ./build-tree/hurd-amd64-libc/mach/mach_msg_trap.S:2
â ï¸ warning: 2 ./build-tree/hurd-amd64-libc/mach/mach_msg_trap.S: No existe el fichero o el directorio
Thread 9 (Thread 1688.9):
#0 0x000108e4ccac in __GI___mach_msg_trap () at ./build-tree/hurd-amd64-libc/mach/mach_msg_trap.S:2
#1 0x000108e4d38d in __GI___mach_msg (msg=msg@entry=0x11204bc28, option=option@entry=1, send_size=send_size@entry=80, rcv_size=rcv_size@entry=0, rcv_name=rcv_name@entry=0, timeout=timeout@entry=0, notify=0) at ./mach/msg.c:111
ret =
#2 0x00010bfdf8a4 in __gsync_wake (task=, addr=, val=val@entry=0, flags=) at ./build-tree/hurd-amd64-libc/mach/RPC_gsync_wake.c:129
Mess = {In = {Head = {msgh_bits = 19, msgh_size = 80, {msgh_remote_port = 62, msgh_remote_port_do_not_use = 62}, {msgh_local_port = 0, msgh_protected_payload = 0}, msgh_seqno = 0, msgh_id = 4205}, addrType = {msgt_name = 11, msgt_size = 64, msgt_unused = 0, msgt_inline = 1, msgt_longform = 0, msgt_deallocate = 0, msgt_number = 1}, addr = 35184372791616, valType = {msgt_name = 2, msgt_size = 32, msgt_unused = 0, msgt_inline = 1, msgt_longform = 0, msgt_deallocate = 0, msgt_number = 1}, val = 0, valPad = "\000 \000", flagsType = {msgt_name = 2, msgt_size = 32, msgt_unused = 0, msgt_inline = 1, msgt_longform = 0, msgt_deallocate = 0, msgt_number = 1}, flags = 0, flagsPad = "\000\000\000"}}
InP = 0x11204bc28
#3 0x000108f0c6da in __GI___pthread_mutex_unlock (mtxp=) at ../sysdeps/mach/hurd/htl/pt-mutex-unlock.c:47
__iptr =
self =
flags =
__iptr =
#4 0x000101130d1a in g_mutex_unlock () at /usr/lib/x86_64-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#5 0x000106b1bfa0 in ??? () at /usr/lib/x86_64-gnu/libgio-2.0.so.0
#6 0
Re: Have any difficulties arisen with the Lua scripting languaje into Hurd?
Jose Luis Alarcon Sanchez, le mer. 11 févr. 2026 11:00:27 +0100, a ecrit: > El Tue, 10 Feb 2026 22:53:39 +0100 > Samuel Thibault escribió: > > Jose Luis Alarcon Sanchez, le mar. 10 févr. 2026 20:41:38 +0100, a > > ecrit: > > > El Tue, 10 Feb 2026 19:23:17 +0100 > > > Samuel Thibault escribió: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > Jose Luis Alarcon Sanchez, le mar. 10 févr. 2026 15:37:08 +0100, a > > > > ecrit: > > > > > How is it possible that at the end of last year, from one > > > > > day to the next, the two best web browsers available on > > > > > GNU/Hurd, Luakit and Surf, which are very similar and based on > > > > > the same scripting language, Lua, went from working very > > > > > satisfactorily to instantly terminating when launched, with the > > > > > brief output ‘abort’? > > > > > > > > Because of a bug? The abort message would probably be very > > > > informative. Or a gdb backtrace, etc. > > > > > > > > > Is it possible to investigate why this happened?. > > > > > > > > Sure. For a simple start, you can check what package got upgraded > > > > in between, and then try to downgrade/upgrade to verify which > > > > exact package pose problems. But also simply actually pasting the > > > > abortion message would provide the list with *way* more > > > > information than just "terminates". > > > > > > I don't know how to get a "register" of the upgrades realized at > > > that time (it was last week of 2025, i'm sure of it). > > > > It's all in /var/log/dpkg.log > > > > Ok. Attached a short extract of /var/log/dpkg.log. I am 100% sure that > the changes that triggered the browsers falilure was made on December > 29th. Also including the day before and the day after. Then you can try to downgrade/reupgrade, to confirm which one poses problem. > #6 0x000108e4bfcd in __GI_abort () at ./stdlib/abort.c:77 > #7 0x000107ae1bec in ??? () at > /usr/lib/x86_64-gnu/libjavascriptcoregtk-4.1.so.0 > #8 0x000107f76912 in ??? () at > /usr/lib/x86_64-gnu/libjavascriptcoregtk-4.1.so.0 So you want to install the -dbgsym package for that library, to get source code information Samuel
Re: Have any difficulties arisen with the Lua scripting languaje into Hurd?
El Tue, 10 Feb 2026 22:53:39 +0100 Samuel Thibault escribió: > Jose Luis Alarcon Sanchez, le mar. 10 févr. 2026 20:41:38 +0100, a > ecrit: > > El Tue, 10 Feb 2026 19:23:17 +0100 > > Samuel Thibault escribió: > > > Hello, > > > > > > Jose Luis Alarcon Sanchez, le mar. 10 févr. 2026 15:37:08 +0100, a > > > ecrit: > > > > How is it possible that at the end of last year, from one > > > > day to the next, the two best web browsers available on > > > > GNU/Hurd, Luakit and Surf, which are very similar and based on > > > > the same scripting language, Lua, went from working very > > > > satisfactorily to instantly terminating when launched, with the > > > > brief output ‘abort’? > > > > > > Because of a bug? The abort message would probably be very > > > informative. Or a gdb backtrace, etc. > > > > > > > Is it possible to investigate why this happened?. > > > > > > Sure. For a simple start, you can check what package got upgraded > > > in between, and then try to downgrade/upgrade to verify which > > > exact package pose problems. But also simply actually pasting the > > > abortion message would provide the list with *way* more > > > information than just "terminates". > > > > I don't know how to get a "register" of the upgrades realized at > > that time (it was last week of 2025, i'm sure of it). > > It's all in /var/log/dpkg.log > Ok. Attached a short extract of /var/log/dpkg.log. I am 100% sure that the changes that triggered the browsers falilure was made on December 29th. Also including the day before and the day after. > > In the attached screenshot it's collected the proccess of typing > > 'surf' and 'luakit' in the command line. If i can help in this > > investigation in any way, let my know, cos i'm eager to help. > > Ok, it's indeed not informative. But then run it inside gdb and type > "run" then "bt", having installed the -dbgsym packages as needed to > get the source code lines, and the abortion backtrace will be > informative. > I Followed your instructions with gdb, the output is in the attached file debug_luakit.txt. > Samuel Thanks, Samuel. You're allways willing to help. Regards. Jose Luis. -- https://lordofunix.org/ Not Registered GNU/Hurd User. Registered BSD User 51101. Registered Linux User #213309. Memories. You are talking about memories. Rick Deckard. Blade Runner. 2025-12-28 18:35:31 startup archives unpack 2025-12-28 18:35:33 upgrade task-ssh-server:all 3.85 3.86 2025-12-28 18:35:33 status half-configured task-ssh-server:all 3.85 2025-12-28 18:35:33 status unpacked task-ssh-server:all 3.85 2025-12-28 18:35:33 status half-installed task-ssh-server:all 3.85 2025-12-28 18:35:33 status unpacked task-ssh-server:all 3.86 2025-12-28 18:35:33 upgrade tasksel-data:all 3.85 3.86 2025-12-28 18:35:33 status half-configured tasksel-data:all 3.85 2025-12-28 18:35:33 status unpacked tasksel-data:all 3.85 2025-12-28 18:35:33 status half-installed tasksel-data:all 3.85 2025-12-28 18:35:33 status unpacked tasksel-data:all 3.86 2025-12-28 18:35:33 upgrade tasksel:all 3.85 3.86 2025-12-28 18:35:33 status half-configured tasksel:all 3.85 2025-12-28 18:35:33 status unpacked tasksel:all 3.85 2025-12-28 18:35:33 status half-installed tasksel:all 3.85 2025-12-28 18:35:34 status triggers-pending man-db:hurd-amd64 2.13.1-1 2025-12-28 18:35:34 status triggers-pending menu:hurd-amd64 2.1.51 2025-12-28 18:35:34 status triggers-awaited menu:hurd-amd64 2.1.51 2025-12-28 18:35:34 status unpacked tasksel:all 3.86 2025-12-28 18:35:34 upgrade libllvm21:hurd-amd64 1:21.1.8-1 1:21.1.8-1+b1 2025-12-28 18:35:34 status triggers-pending libc-bin:hurd-amd64 2.42-6 2025-12-28 18:35:34 status half-configured libllvm21:hurd-amd64 1:21.1.8-1 2025-12-28 18:35:34 status unpacked libllvm21:hurd-amd64 1:21.1.8-1 2025-12-28 18:35:34 status half-installed libllvm21:hurd-amd64 1:21.1.8-1 2025-12-28 18:35:40 status unpacked libllvm21:hurd-amd64 1:21.1.8-1+b1 2025-12-28 18:35:40 upgrade cargo:hurd-amd64 1.91.1+dfsg1-1~exp3 1.91.1+dfsg1-1 2025-12-28 18:35:40 status half-configured cargo:hurd-amd64 1.91.1+dfsg1-1~exp3 2025-12-28 18:35:40 status unpacked cargo:hurd-amd64 1.91.1+dfsg1-1~exp3 2025-12-28 18:35:40 status half-installed cargo:hurd-amd64 1.91.1+dfsg1-1~exp3 2025-12-28 18:35:41 status unpacked cargo:hurd-amd64 1.91.1+dfsg1-1 2025-12-28 18:35:41 upgrade rustc:hurd-amd64 1.91.1+dfsg1-1~exp3 1.91.1+dfsg1-1 2025-12-28 18:35:41 status half-configured rustc:hurd-amd64 1.91.1+dfsg1-1~exp3 2025-12-28 18:35:41 status unpacked rustc:hurd-amd64 1.91.1+dfsg1-1~exp3 2025-12-28 18:35:41 status half-installed rustc:hurd-amd64 1.91.1+dfsg1-1~exp3 2025-12-28 18:35:42 status unpacked rustc:hurd-amd64 1.91.1+dfsg1-1 2025-12-28 18:35:42 upgrade libstd-rust-dev:hurd-amd64 1.91.1+dfsg1-1~exp3 1.91.1+dfsg1-1 2025-12-28 18:35:42 status half-configured libstd-rust-dev:hurd-amd64 1.91.1+dfsg1-1~exp3 2025-12-28 18:35:42 status unpacked libstd-rust-dev:hurd-amd64 1.91.1+dfsg1-1~exp3 2025-12-28 18:35:42 status half-i
Re: Have any difficulties arisen with the Lua scripting languaje into Hurd?
Jose Luis Alarcon Sanchez, le mar. 10 févr. 2026 20:41:38 +0100, a ecrit: > El Tue, 10 Feb 2026 19:23:17 +0100 > Samuel Thibault escribió: > > Hello, > > > > Jose Luis Alarcon Sanchez, le mar. 10 févr. 2026 15:37:08 +0100, a > > ecrit: > > > How is it possible that at the end of last year, from one > > > day to the next, the two best web browsers available on GNU/Hurd, > > > Luakit and Surf, which are very similar and based on the same > > > scripting language, Lua, went from working very satisfactorily to > > > instantly terminating when launched, with the brief output ‘abort’? > > > > > > > Because of a bug? The abort message would probably be very > > informative. Or a gdb backtrace, etc. > > > > > Is it possible to investigate why this happened?. > > > > Sure. For a simple start, you can check what package got upgraded > > in between, and then try to downgrade/upgrade to verify which exact > > package pose problems. But also simply actually pasting the abortion > > message would provide the list with *way* more information than just > > "terminates". > > I don't know how to get a "register" of the upgrades realized at that > time (it was last week of 2025, i'm sure of it). It's all in /var/log/dpkg.log > In the attached screenshot it's collected the proccess of typing 'surf' > and 'luakit' in the command line. If i can help in this investigation > in any way, let my know, cos i'm eager to help. Ok, it's indeed not informative. But then run it inside gdb and type "run" then "bt", having installed the -dbgsym packages as needed to get the source code lines, and the abortion backtrace will be informative. Samuel
Re: Have any difficulties arisen with the Lua scripting languaje into Hurd?
Hello, Jose Luis Alarcon Sanchez, le mar. 10 févr. 2026 15:37:08 +0100, a ecrit: > How is it possible that at the end of last year, from one > day to the next, the two best web browsers available on GNU/Hurd, Luakit > and Surf, which are very similar and based on the same scripting > language, Lua, went from working very satisfactorily to instantly > terminating when launched, with the brief output ‘abort’? Because of a bug? The abort message would probably be very informative. Or a gdb backtrace, etc. > Is it possible to investigate why this happened?. Sure. For a simple start, you can check what package got upgraded in between, and then try to downgrade/upgrade to verify which exact package pose problems. But also simply actually pasting the abortion message would provide the list with *way* more information than just "terminates". Samuel
Have any difficulties arisen with the Lua scripting languaje into Hurd?
Hello. I had asked this before, but I’m asking again because it’s really very important. How is it possible that at the end of last year, from one day to the next, the two best web browsers available on GNU/Hurd, Luakit and Surf, which are very similar and based on the same scripting language, Lua, went from working very satisfactorily to instantly terminating when launched, with the brief output ‘abort’?. Is it possible to investigate why this happened?. In the absence of the classic browsers (Firefox, etc.) the truth is I had a very fast learning curve with these browsers, and they worked well for almost everything. I kindly ask the responsible maintainers to review it, please. And if any change has been made that has irreversibly made it impossible to use these browsers in our system, please state so for the users’ awareness. Thanks very much, in advance. Regards. Jose Luis. -- https://lordofunix.org/ Not Registered GNU/Hurd User. Registered BSD User 51101. Registered Linux User #213309. Memories. You are talking about memories. Rick Deckard. Blade Runner. pgpBTsf6YFdCd.pgp Description: Firma digital OpenPGP
