Re: self-alignment-X has the opposite effect on Lyric syllables narrower than the note-head
Le 01/02/2022 à 22:41, Simon Albrecht a écrit : Hi Aaron, thanks for looking into this. On 20/01/2022 14:07, Aaron Hill wrote: Firstly, alignment values outside the interval [-1, 1] in general behave oddly as the result depends on the size of the object in question. Larger things do end up moving more. Well, I wouldn’t call that ‘odd’ since it is a very useful effect and I very often use alignment values other than -1 or 1, which makes it intuitive to work with. The step from 0.8 to 1 is the same as the step from 1 to 1.2. Secondly, LyricText has parent-alignment-X set to '() which, as far as I can tell, results in inheriting self-alignment-X. Choosing #RIGHT, for example, means to have the right side of the text align with the right edge of the note. That’s unexpected and explains it perfectly. I will set parent-alignment-X to 0 in my default style sheet. However, it may be worthwhile opening a ticket like “Unset parent-alignment-X causes unexpected behaviour” IMO. Best, Simon Opened ticket https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/issues/6295 Jean ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: self-alignment-X has the opposite effect on Lyric syllables narrower than the note-head
Hi Aaron, thanks for looking into this. On 20/01/2022 14:07, Aaron Hill wrote: Firstly, alignment values outside the interval [-1, 1] in general behave oddly as the result depends on the size of the object in question. Larger things do end up moving more. Well, I wouldn’t call that ‘odd’ since it is a very useful effect and I very often use alignment values other than -1 or 1, which makes it intuitive to work with. The step from 0.8 to 1 is the same as the step from 1 to 1.2. Secondly, LyricText has parent-alignment-X set to '() which, as far as I can tell, results in inheriting self-alignment-X. Choosing #RIGHT, for example, means to have the right side of the text align with the right edge of the note. That’s unexpected and explains it perfectly. I will set parent-alignment-X to 0 in my default style sheet. However, it may be worthwhile opening a ticket like “Unset parent-alignment-X causes unexpected behaviour” IMO. Best, Simon ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: self-alignment-X has the opposite effect on Lyric syllables narrower than the note-head
On 2022-01-20 3:05 am, Simon Albrecht wrote:
when setting self-alignment-X on a lyric syllable that is narrower
than its corresponding note-head, it takes the opposite effect of what
should be expected:
%%
\version "2.23.5"
<<
{ 1 1 }
\addlyrics {
\tweak self-alignment-X #3 test
\tweak self-alignment-X #3 i
}
%%
Firstly, alignment values outside the interval [-1, 1] in general behave
oddly as the result depends on the size of the object in question.
Larger things do end up moving more.
Secondly, LyricText has parent-alignment-X set to '() which, as far as I
can tell, results in inheriting self-alignment-X. Choosing #RIGHT, for
example, means to have the right side of the text align with the right
edge of the note.
Combine those quirks together and do you get some very unusual results
with out-of-range alignments. A value of (* 3 RIGHT) would mean you are
aligning to a point much to the right of the note in question. And the
same so-called "super-right-aligning" of the text also means its
reference point is beyond the right bound. Wider text like "test" has
the reference point much farther to the right, pushing it farther left
compared to "i".
Try setting parent-alignment-X to, say, #CENTER (0) to remove a variable
from the equation. "test" will still move more than "i", but it should
hopefully be easier to see that both texts are moving in the same
direction (relative to the note center).
Perhaps an unspecified parent-alignment-X should take self-alignment-X's
value but clamped to [LEFT, RIGHT]:
\override LyricText.parent-alignment-X =
#(lambda (grob) (max LEFT (min RIGHT (ly:grob-property grob
'self-alignment-X
-- Aaron Hill
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