Re: Bug#793067: Bug#792328: info: can no longer find the Emacs manual

2015-08-03 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 15:16:27 +0100 From: Gavin Smith gavinsmith0...@gmail.com Cc: 793...@bugs.debian.org, Texinfo bug-texinfo@gnu.org On 3 August 2015 at 14:22, Gavin Smith gavinsmith0...@gmail.com wrote: I'm wondering if we can kill two birds with one stone here and get install-info

Re: Bug#793067: Bug#792328: info: can no longer find the Emacs manual

2015-08-03 Thread Gavin Smith
On 3 August 2015 at 22:55, Karl Berry k...@freefriends.org wrote: Perhaps it's naive, but I feel like I might just want a dir like this so that I can find what I want and don't have to change global state and/or restart the viewer just to read different versions: I agree. You can

Re: Bug#793067: Bug#792328: info: can no longer find the Emacs manual

2015-08-03 Thread Karl Berry
Perhaps it's naive, but I feel like I might just want a dir like this so that I can find what I want and don't have to change global state and/or restart the viewer just to read different versions: I agree. You can have that now. It does not need new features, so far as I can see.

Re: Bug#793067: Bug#792328: info: can no longer find the Emacs manual

2015-08-03 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Karl, hi all, lots of mails here, but I still don't see why you are opposing the idea to have different versions of the same program installed, and wanting to be able to *check* all of them. On Mon, 03 Aug 2015, Karl Berry wrote: If you're globally changing the meaning of the emacs binary,

Re: Bug#793067: Bug#792328: info: can no longer find the Emacs manual

2015-08-03 Thread Karl Berry
That doesn't happen, and nobody seems to miss it. If the shell can avoid a lot of complexity handling multiple versions of programs, I suspect it may not be necessary for documentation either. Indeed. Which is why I don't understand why we're having this whole thread. Sorry. It

Re: Bug#793067: Bug#792328: info: can no longer find the Emacs manual

2015-08-03 Thread Karl Berry
I'm wondering if we can kill two birds with one stone here and get install-info to actually install the Info file as part of the solution. I really really really advise against going down that road. -k

Re: Bug#793067: Bug#792328: info: can no longer find the Emacs manual

2015-08-03 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Rob Browning r...@defaultvalue.org Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2015 18:35:29 -0500 Karl Berry k...@freefriends.org writes: Here's what I don't get: suppose there are two versions of Emacs installed, emacs-x and emacs-y. Presumably Debian (and anyone else) has some method for the user to

Re: Bug#793067: Bug#792328: info: can no longer find the Emacs manual

2015-08-03 Thread Gavin Smith
On 3 August 2015 at 14:22, Gavin Smith gavinsmith0...@gmail.com wrote: I'm wondering if we can kill two birds with one stone here and get install-info to actually install the Info file as part of the solution. So here's an idea. Add a --suffix option to install-info and at the same time allow

Re: Bug#793067: Bug#792328: info: can no longer find the Emacs manual

2015-08-03 Thread Gavin Smith
On 3 August 2015 at 01:40, Rob Browning r...@defaultvalue.org wrote: - There's an easy way to ask specifically for the foo X pages. I suppose X might be program specific, but all of the values I can think of right now are of the form N or N.M. (i.e. GCC 5.0, Python 2.7, Python

Re: Bug#793067: Bug#792328: info: can no longer find the Emacs manual

2015-08-03 Thread Gavin Smith
On 3 August 2015 at 16:21, Eli Zaretskii e...@gnu.org wrote: I don't see how this would solve the issue at hand. Installation of a manual is a system-wide action, whereas Rob wanted a way for a _user_ to specify her preferred version(s) of the manual(s) to use at any given moment. How the