Re: real subscripts and superscripts?

2014-12-02 Thread Karl Berry
can't be that difficult to implement a suitable \superscript macro. Indeed. I committed the changes to texinfo.tex (and the documentation) so that @sub/@sup stay in math mode inside @math, and do a textual sub/superscript outside @math. The remaining complication (unsolved) is if someone

Re: real subscripts and superscripts?

2014-12-01 Thread Patrice Dumas
On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 07:01:09PM +, Karl Berry wrote: Is your proposal really just working around makeinfo not recognizing ^ and _ in math in the first place? It seems to me that might be implementable without too much trouble -- the parsing could maybe be treated like the accent

Re: real subscripts and superscripts?

2014-12-01 Thread Per Bothner
On 12/01/2014 04:31 PM, Karl Berry wrote: The remaining question would be about @sup/@sub outside of math -- go into math by default, or stay in text? I would be inclined toward the latter (which is also what texi2any does now). I think the latter makes most sense: it seems more useful and

Re: real subscripts and superscripts?

2014-11-28 Thread Gavin Smith
On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 6:54 AM, Per Bothner p...@bothner.com wrote: Supposed I want to write a formula like e=mc^2 in TexInfo. In TeX I'd like it to be typeset $e = mc^2$. In HTML I'd like it to be typeset span class=mathe = mcsup2/sup/span or similar - i.e. I want to use sup2/sup. Likewise

Re: real subscripts and superscripts?

2014-11-28 Thread Per Bothner
On 11/28/2014 11:01 AM, Karl Berry wrote: Sure, sub/superscripts are most commonly used in math. Thus @math, as in @math{e=mc^2}. I never expected anything else to be used, certainly not clunky macros. This is why @math was created in the first place. Is your proposal really just working

Re: real subscripts and superscripts?

2014-11-28 Thread Karl Berry
I want some sane way of writing i^2 and R^4 so I get tolerably-looking expressions with superscripts in both TeX andDocBook/HTML. Sure. First, with non-letter superscripts (numbers, +, etc.), you're fine with the present @sup inside math, regardless of whether @sub/@sup mean text inside

Re: real subscripts and superscripts?

2014-11-27 Thread Karl Berry
Per and all, In TeX inside @math: ^{TEXT} In TeX otherwise: use a macro ... I'm thinking that TeX, either inside or outside @math, should treat TEXT as text, not math. That is, if you simply want to produce the math expression a-to-the-power-of-b, you'd write @math{a^b}, rather than

Re: real subscripts and superscripts?

2014-11-27 Thread Per Bothner
On 11/27/2014 04:13 PM, Karl Berry wrote: Per and all, In TeX inside @math: ^{TEXT} In TeX otherwise: use a macro ... I'm thinking that TeX, either inside or outside @math, should treat TEXT as text, not math. That is, if you simply want to produce the math expression

Re: real subscripts and superscripts?

2014-11-23 Thread Karl Berry
I can add these to texinfo.tex and texinfo.texi, etc., easily enough. Do you have time to add it to makeinfo? Yes. Great. I will work on it next week. For HTML cross manual I propose doing the same as for style commands and key and kbd, that is replace by the content.

Re: real subscripts and superscripts?

2014-11-22 Thread Dumas Patrice
On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 07:08:48PM +0100, Dumas Patrice wrote: On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:07:04PM +, Karl Berry wrote: Maybe I would favor using x^{2}y in textual context too, since there is no good solution, and it is simpler to implement and explain ... Ok by me. Doing the

Re: real subscripts and superscripts?

2014-11-19 Thread Karl Berry
Maybe I would favor using x^{2}y in textual context too, since there is no good solution, and it is simpler to implement and explain ... Ok by me. Doing the simple way (always add braces) first seems reasonable; if it turns out that the feature gets used enough and people really don't

Re: real subscripts and superscripts?

2014-11-18 Thread Karl Berry
Hi Per, Are real subcripts/superscripts planned? There has been no specific plan to date, for this or any of the many other things lacking in Texinfo. Your message is very helpful in that regard. (2) Introduce new @sub and @sup commands (or @subscript/@superscript @sub and @sup sound

real subscripts and superscripts?

2014-11-17 Thread Per Bothner
Currently texinfo only supports subscripts and superscripts in @math, which are only effective in tex mode. This is unfortunate since both HTML and DocBook support them. Are real subcripts/superscripts planned? I can see two ways to do it: (1) Parse @math to extract the ^ and _ characters and