Re: texinfo supports non-English hyphenation

2008-10-15 Thread John Mandereau
On 2008/10/13 06:05 +0200, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
 the CVS version of texinfo now supports non-English hyphenation!

As far as I can see in 2.1.62 French, German and Spanish Learning
Manuals, it already partially did before I updated texinfo.tex
yesterday, although I'm not sure how some words are hyphenated, e.g.
reescribi-endo in the introduction of Spanish Learning Manual.

I didn't notice any hyphenation difference after updating texinfo.tex,
but I guess TeXlive 2008 is needed to see improvements (Fedora 9
provides TeXlive 2007).

It's certainly a good thing you added txi-LL.tex files, as people who
build the docs may not have the latest versions of these files.

Cheers,
John





Re: texinfo supports non-English hyphenation

2008-10-15 Thread Werner LEMBERG

 As far as I can see in 2.1.62 French, German and Spanish Learning
 Manuals, it already partially did before I updated texinfo.tex
 yesterday, although I'm not sure how some words are hyphenated, e.g.
 reescribi-endo in the introduction of Spanish Learning Manual.

Yes, some strings got translated, but there wasn't any hyphenation
support.

 I didn't notice any hyphenation difference after updating texinfo.tex,
 but I guess TeXlive 2008 is needed to see improvements (Fedora 9
 provides TeXlive 2007).

Yes, probably.

 It's certainly a good thing you added txi-LL.tex files, as people
 who build the docs may not have the latest versions of these files.

They are essential; without the new versions the right hyphenation
patterns aren't selected.


Werner




@frenchspacing not in txi-XX.tex files

2008-10-15 Thread Werner LEMBERG

I strongly suggest to add proper

  @frenchspacing [on|off]

commands to the txi-XX.tex files.  At least German and French
definitely need this.


Werner




Re: @frenchspacing not in txi-XX.tex files

2008-10-15 Thread Karl Berry
I strongly suggest to add proper
  @frenchspacing [on|off]

Ok, I guess that makes sense.

karl




Re: texinfo supports non-English hyphenation

2008-10-15 Thread Karl Berry
it already partially 

It used English hyphenation patterns in all cases (and still does, if
the real patterns aren't there).

I didn't notice any hyphenation difference after updating texinfo.tex,
but I guess TeXlive 2008 is needed to see improvements

More precisely, what you need (besides texinfo.tex and txi-LL.tex) is an
etex (or pdftex) .fmt that includes the patterns.  And indeed, this
is the case by default in TL08 and was not the case by default in TL07.

Although in principle you could change things around in TL07, I suspect
it would be far less work for everyone to simply install TL08 if you
want the new hyphenation.  (The native install won't interfere with your
system installation.)

karl