Re: hyphenation

2018-02-12 Thread Gavin Smith
t; > Please insert @hyphenation{auto-ma-ti-cal-ly} > in texinfo.tex. OK done.

hyphenation

2018-02-09 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] Please insert @hyphenation{auto-ma-ti-cal-ly} in texinfo.tex. -- Dr Richard

RE: bug#18308: 24.4.50; Info viewer cannot follow menu entry for '(texinfo) @- @hyphenation'

2014-09-02 Thread Vincent Belaïche
...@debbugs.gnu.org; bug-texinfo@gnu.org Subject: RE: bug#18308: 24.4.50; Info viewer cannot follow menu entry for '(texinfo) @- @hyphenation' use exactly the same node names whatever the language, so that the same link can be used, and when the manual is compiled to multifile HTML, you have the same

RE: bug#18308: 24.4.50; Info viewer cannot follow menu entry for '(texinfo) @- @hyphenation'

2014-09-01 Thread Vincent Belaïche
Answers inserted below... Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 23:37:06 +0100 Subject: Re: bug#18308: 24.4.50; Info viewer cannot follow menu entry for '(texinfo) @- @hyphenation' From: gavinsmith0...@gmail.com To: vincent@hotmail.fr CC: 18...@debbugs.gnu.org

Re: bug#18308: 24.4.50; Info viewer cannot follow menu entry for '(texinfo) @- @hyphenation'

2014-09-01 Thread Gavin Smith
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 8:40 PM, Vincent Belaïche vincent@hotmail.fr wrote: Having translated node names isn't as important because there would be translated headers in the contents of files/nodes saying what section we're in. The main use would be the status bar in a browser giving the

RE: bug#18308: 24.4.50; Info viewer cannot follow menu entry for '(texinfo) @- @hyphenation'

2014-09-01 Thread Karl Berry
use exactly the same node names whatever the language, so that the same link can be used, and when the manual is compiled to multifile HTML, you have the same file tree whatever the language. Seems Currently the usual practice is that a translated document is just

Re: bug#18308: 24.4.50; Info viewer cannot follow menu entry for '(texinfo) @- @hyphenation'

2014-08-31 Thread Gavin Smith
(adding bug-texinfo) On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 11:04 PM, Vincent Belaïche vincent@hotmail.fr wrote: Finally, as an EMACS user, it would be more important to me * if docstring could be written in a sort of texinfo-light format (when you create a package or anything you first do docstring,

Re: bug#18308: 24.4.50; Info viewer cannot follow menu entry for '(texinfo) @- @hyphenation'

2014-08-22 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Vincent Belaïche vincent@hotmail.fr Cc: 18...@debbugs.gnu.org, Texinfo bug-texinfo@gnu.org Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 15:01:43 +0200 - texi2any must collapse multiple blanks in node names *everywhere*, but it is still allowed to break and indent a node name containing a blank

RE: bug#18308: 24.4.50; Info viewer cannot follow menu entry for '(texinfo) @- @hyphenation'

2014-08-22 Thread Vincent Belaïche
2014 09:36:14 +0300 From: e...@gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#18308: 24.4.50; Info viewer cannot follow menu entry for '(texinfo) @- @hyphenation' To: vincent@hotmail.fr CC: gavinsmith0...@gmail.com; 18...@debbugs.gnu.org [...] I a nutshell, there are cases of node references where the info

Re: texinfo.tex: hyphenation not working

2009-05-06 Thread Karl Berry
How to enable hyphenation of this word? The hyphenation points are already being considered. I put @loggingall in the source and inspected the resulting paragraph breaking; it has the expected discretionaries for the determining. What's happening is that TeX is trying to minimize badness

texinfo.tex: hyphenation not working

2009-05-01 Thread Bruno Haible
in a string. no hyphenation occurs. The output is still the same. How to enable hyphenation of this word? Bruno inline: ugly-paragraph.png

Re: texinfo supports non-English hyphenation

2008-10-15 Thread John Mandereau
On 2008/10/13 06:05 +0200, Werner LEMBERG wrote: the CVS version of texinfo now supports non-English hyphenation! As far as I can see in 2.1.62 French, German and Spanish Learning Manuals, it already partially did before I updated texinfo.tex yesterday, although I'm not sure how some words

Re: texinfo supports non-English hyphenation

2008-10-15 Thread Werner LEMBERG
translated, but there wasn't any hyphenation support. I didn't notice any hyphenation difference after updating texinfo.tex, but I guess TeXlive 2008 is needed to see improvements (Fedora 9 provides TeXlive 2007). Yes, probably. It's certainly a good thing you added txi-LL.tex files, as people who

Re: texinfo supports non-English hyphenation

2008-10-15 Thread Karl Berry
it already partially It used English hyphenation patterns in all cases (and still does, if the real patterns aren't there). I didn't notice any hyphenation difference after updating texinfo.tex, but I guess TeXlive 2008 is needed to see improvements More precisely, what you need

Re: hyphenation in non-English languages

2008-10-12 Thread Karl Berry
It works with etex too if you use I made changes to texinfo.tex and all the txi-??.tex files to implement this. Thanks very much for the suggestion and code. karl

Re: hyphenation in non-English languages

2008-10-02 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Do you want to? Will have a look, but I can't promise anything due to time constraints. To get some basic non-English hyphenation support, almost nothing has to be changed if you use the current TeXLive. Here I demonstrate what to do for German. . The basic trick is to process

Re: hyphenation in non-English languages

2008-10-02 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Werner, On Do, 02 Okt 2008, Werner LEMBERG wrote: . The basic trick is to process the texinfo file with `eplain' instead of `tex'. With TeXLive, this gives access to all configured hyphenation patterns. `bplain' would do the same, but there is (currently) no soft link

Re: hyphenation in non-English languages

2008-10-02 Thread Karl Berry
(I think this has nothing to do with Texinfo, but for TeX Live purposes ...) `bplain' would do the same, but there is (currently) no soft link to the `tex' binary. (Norbert, bplain = babel plain) Would it useful to have? Although there is a bplain.ini file, I see no sign that there was

Re: hyphenation in non-English languages

2008-10-02 Thread Karl Berry
. The basic trick is to process the texinfo file with `eplain' Wouldn't it work with etex? I don't see that any eplain-specific features are being used. (\makeat*er being trivial, as we all know.) texi2dvi already uses etex (or pdf[e]tex) when they are present. So in this case, I don't

Re: hyphenation in non-English languages

2008-10-02 Thread Werner LEMBERG
. The basic trick is to process the texinfo file with `eplain' Wouldn't it work with etex? No. As outlined in babel.pdf, plain.tex must not be modified, thus there are only US-English hyphenation patterns available. Is there a simple table somewhere of the correct \{left,right

Re: hyphenation in non-English languages

2008-10-02 Thread Norbert Preining
On Do, 02 Okt 2008, Karl Berry wrote: Is there a simple table somewhere of the correct \{left,right}hyphenmin values? I don't relish digging into all the babel files. grep lefthyphenmin Master/tlpkg/tlpsrc/* ?? We added all that is known there for exactely that purpose. In fact it is

Re: hyphenation in non-English languages

2008-10-02 Thread Karl Berry
No. As outlined in babel.pdf, plain.tex must not be modified, thus there are only US-English hyphenation patterns available. Not so. etex loads all the patterns (and plain.tex remains unmodified, of course). This was a change in 2008, although it could have been done earlier

Re: hyphenation in non-English languages

2008-10-02 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Wouldn't it work with etex? No. As outlined in babel.pdf, plain.tex must not be modified, thus there are only US-English hyphenation patterns available. Sorry, my mistake. It works with etex too if you use this snippet instead of the previous one: [EMAIL PROTECTED] \global

Re: hyphenation in non-English languages

2008-09-27 Thread Karl Berry
any chance that this gets implemented on the TeX side? It would be very nice. Basically, it should be just an interface to the plain TeX implementation of Babel, right? I don't know. All we really have to do is set \language. Do we need Babel for that? Now that etex (in TL'08)

Re: hyphenation in non-English languages

2008-09-27 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Basically, it should be just an interface to the plain TeX implementation of Babel, right? I don't know. All we really have to do is set \language. Do we need Babel for that? Well \language expects a number, doesn't it? Using Babel, we can use a string instead... Has

Re: hyphenation in non-English languages

2008-09-27 Thread Karl Berry
Well \language expects a number, doesn't it? Yes. Using Babel, we can use a string instead... Clearly we have to map from the existing @documentlanguage strings in Texinfo to the numbers that were dumped in the .fmt file for the various languages. If Babel can help us do that, and

hyphenation in non-English languages

2008-09-26 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Folks, any chance that this gets implemented on the TeX side? Basically, it should be just an interface to the plain TeX implementation of Babel, right? Has someone worked on this already? Werner