Re: [Bug-wget] Welcome new Wget Maintainers

2010-04-25 Thread Jeff
On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 19:36 -0700, Micah Cowan wrote:

> Karl Berry has appointed new maintainers to the Wget project, Giuseppe
> Scrivano (who also currently maintains GNU MyServer), and Anthony
> Stephens. Welcome, and good luck!
> 
> I'll continue to be present on the mailing list and IRC, and will be
> happy to help with whatever is needed during the transition. Thanks for
> taking this on!
> 


Congratulations on becoming the new wget maintainers Giuseppe and
Anthony, and thanks to Micah for being the maintainer for so long.

Cheers,
Jeff.


Re: [Bug-wget] Welcome new Wget Maintainers

2010-04-25 Thread Giuseppe Scrivano
Hi Micah,

Micah Cowan  writes:

>> I think it will be cleaner to use gnulib in the same way as other
>> projects are doing it, not checking in the results but using a
>> "bootstrap" script.  To force a specific revision of gnulib, a git
>> submodule can be used.
>
> Yeah, but then you need to communicate which particular submodule the
> other folks should use (and they all have to maintain git and gnulib now
> too, though I suppose that problem is lessened if wget is moved to git;
> but then there's the issue of Windows support).

AFAIK, now git works under Windows, there are many frontends [1], I
don't know how many of them works well under Windows.

Cheers,
Giuseppe



[1] https://git.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/InterfacesFrontendsAndTools




Re: [Bug-wget] Welcome new Wget Maintainers

2010-04-24 Thread Micah Cowan
Giuseppe Scrivano wrote:
> Micah Cowan  writes:
> 
>> I think the main thing with migrating to Savannah is that there are a
>> lot of "developers" who would have commit access, where there's really
>> only a couple people in there who are active developers. So you may want
>> to prune that list (see who's actually in the changelog in the first
>> place or something?) before using Savannah for repo access.
> 
> Thanks, I will take care of this.

Let me know when you do this, and I'll remove the mainline from
hg.addictivecode.org. I'll leave some of the others around; jbuty is
still relevant at least, just needs updates and merging to mainline.

>> Of course, git is already required (for maintainers, not developers) to
>> update a local copy of gnulib to run gnulib-tool --update with: Wget
>> uses gnulib, but checks in the results. I did this so I could control
>> the stability of the gnulib we were using, and not have any surprising
>> things change out from under me.
> 
> I think it will be cleaner to use gnulib in the same way as other
> projects are doing it, not checking in the results but using a
> "bootstrap" script.  To force a specific revision of gnulib, a git
> submodule can be used.

Yeah, but then you need to communicate which particular submodule the
other folks should use (and they all have to maintain git and gnulib now
too, though I suppose that problem is lessened if wget is moved to git;
but then there's the issue of Windows support).

-- 
Micah J. Cowan
http://micah.cowan.name/




Re: [Bug-wget] Welcome new Wget Maintainers

2010-04-24 Thread Giuseppe Scrivano
Micah Cowan  writes:

> I think the main thing with migrating to Savannah is that there are a
> lot of "developers" who would have commit access, where there's really
> only a couple people in there who are active developers. So you may want
> to prune that list (see who's actually in the changelog in the first
> place or something?) before using Savannah for repo access.

Thanks, I will take care of this.



> Of course, git is already required (for maintainers, not developers) to
> update a local copy of gnulib to run gnulib-tool --update with: Wget
> uses gnulib, but checks in the results. I did this so I could control
> the stability of the gnulib we were using, and not have any surprising
> things change out from under me.

I think it will be cleaner to use gnulib in the same way as other
projects are doing it, not checking in the results but using a
"bootstrap" script.  To force a specific revision of gnulib, a git
submodule can be used.


Cheers,
Giuseppe




Re: [Bug-wget] Welcome new Wget Maintainers

2010-04-24 Thread Giuseppe Scrivano
Thanks everybody for the kind welcome.  I hope I and Anthony will do a
good job here.

Now to be concrete: I guess the first step is to move the revision
control to Savannah.  I have only a question, would you like to continue
using Mercurial or migrate to Git?  The latter is becoming a de-facto
standard in GNU and in my opinion it is desiderable to reduce
differences among projects.  What do you think?

Cheers,
Giuseppe




Re: [Bug-wget] Welcome new Wget Maintainers

2010-04-24 Thread Micah Cowan
Giuseppe Scrivano wrote:
> Thanks everybody for the kind welcome.  I hope I and Anthony will do a
> good job here.
> 
> Now to be concrete: I guess the first step is to move the revision
> control to Savannah.  I have only a question, would you like to continue
> using Mercurial or migrate to Git?  The latter is becoming a de-facto
> standard in GNU and in my opinion it is desiderable to reduce
> differences among projects.  What do you think?

A primary factor in my decision to use Mercurial, is that it has much
better Windows support, and wget has typically had support for Windows
(though the latest release lacks this; there are changes in mainline for
Windows support, but I had trouble getting builds with openssl).

I think the main thing with migrating to Savannah is that there are a
lot of "developers" who would have commit access, where there's really
only a couple people in there who are active developers. So you may want
to prune that list (see who's actually in the changelog in the first
place or something?) before using Savannah for repo access.

Of course, git is already required (for maintainers, not developers) to
update a local copy of gnulib to run gnulib-tool --update with: Wget
uses gnulib, but checks in the results. I did this so I could control
the stability of the gnulib we were using, and not have any surprising
things change out from under me.

-- 
Micah J. Cowan
http://micah.cowan.name/




Re: [Bug-wget] Welcome new Wget Maintainers

2010-04-24 Thread Keisial
Micah Cowan wrote:
> Keisial wrote:
>   
>> Micah Cowan wrote:
>> 
>>> Karl Berry has appointed new maintainers to the Wget project, Giuseppe
>>> Scrivano (who also currently maintains GNU MyServer), and Anthony
>>> Stephens. Welcome, and good luck!
>>>
>>> I'll continue to be present on the mailing list and IRC, and will be
>>> happy to help with whatever is needed during the transition. Thanks for
>>> taking this on!
>>>   
>>>   
>> Welcome to the wget driver seat, Karl & Giuseppe!
>> 
> That's Giuseppe and Anthony, actually :)
>   

Oops. Sorry Anthony.
The algorithm
rewind(); for (i=0; i < 2; i++) extractName();
wasn't well suited for this mail.






Re: [Bug-wget] Welcome new Wget Maintainers

2010-04-23 Thread Micah Cowan
Keisial wrote:
> Micah Cowan wrote:
>> Karl Berry has appointed new maintainers to the Wget project, Giuseppe
>> Scrivano (who also currently maintains GNU MyServer), and Anthony
>> Stephens. Welcome, and good luck!
>>
>> I'll continue to be present on the mailing list and IRC, and will be
>> happy to help with whatever is needed during the transition. Thanks for
>> taking this on!
>>   
> 
> Welcome to the wget driver seat, Karl & Giuseppe!

That's Giuseppe and Anthony, actually :)

-- 
Micah J. Cowan
http://micah.cowan.name/




Re: [Bug-wget] Welcome new Wget Maintainers

2010-04-23 Thread Keisial
Micah Cowan wrote:
> Karl Berry has appointed new maintainers to the Wget project, Giuseppe
> Scrivano (who also currently maintains GNU MyServer), and Anthony
> Stephens. Welcome, and good luck!
>
> I'll continue to be present on the mailing list and IRC, and will be
> happy to help with whatever is needed during the transition. Thanks for
> taking this on!
>   

Welcome to the wget driver seat, Karl & Giuseppe!






[Bug-wget] Welcome new Wget Maintainers

2010-04-22 Thread Micah Cowan
Karl Berry has appointed new maintainers to the Wget project, Giuseppe
Scrivano (who also currently maintains GNU MyServer), and Anthony
Stephens. Welcome, and good luck!

I'll continue to be present on the mailing list and IRC, and will be
happy to help with whatever is needed during the transition. Thanks for
taking this on!

-- 
Micah J. Cowan
http://micah.cowan.name/