Re: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-23 Thread Mailing lists at Core Security Technologies
Aras "Russ" Memisyazici wrote: > > How effective is what Tom Grace suggests? Unless I'm misunderstanding, he's > suggesting switching to an iptables based protection along with a registry > tweak... ahh the good ol' batch firewall :) Would this actually work as a > viable work-around? I realize M$

Re: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-17 Thread Susan Bradley
eptember 16, 2009 5:03 PM To: Susan Bradley; Thor (Hammer of God) Cc: full-disclos...@lists.grok.org.uk; bugtraq@securityfocus.com Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048? Yes, they used the bulletin to soft-pedal the description, but at the same time I think they send a me

Re: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-17 Thread Susan Bradley
--> I set my return addy to /dev/null for... well you know why! Systems Administrator Virginia Tech -Original Message- From: Larry Seltzer [mailto:la...@larryseltzer.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 5:03 PM To: Susan Bradley; Thor (Hammer of God) Cc: full-disclos...@lists.grok.org.u

Re: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-17 Thread John Morrison
ow why! > > Systems Administrator > Virginia Tech > > -Original Message----- > From: Larry Seltzer [mailto:la...@larryseltzer.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 5:03 PM > To: Susan Bradley; Thor (Hammer of God) > Cc: full-disclos...@lists.grok.org.uk; bugtraq@se

RE: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-17 Thread Aras "Russ" Memisyazici
isclosure-boun...@lists.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:26 PM To: Thor (Hammer of God) Cc: full-disclos...@lists.grok.org.uk; bugtraq@securityfocus.com Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048? It's only "default"

RE: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-16 Thread Larry Seltzer
:26 PM To: Thor (Hammer of God) Cc: full-disclos...@lists.grok.org.uk; bugtraq@securityfocus.com Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048? It's only "default" for people running XP standalone/consumer that are not even in a home network settings. That kinda slic

Re: 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-16 Thread Susan Bradley
Cloud option maybe as we go forward but right now today, this is business making the decisions here. Desktop, if it were that easy we'd have ripped out desktops years ago. Businesses have to be realistic. Sometimes there is not "plenty of comparable alternatives out there". Sometimes the bo

Re: 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-16 Thread Rob Thompson
Susan Bradley wrote: > Only if you are a consumer. In a network we ALL have listening ports > out there. This is simply Microsofts way of forcing you to upgrade your OS. They pulled the same shenanigans with Windows 2000, if you do not recall. I'd have to say, it's time to re-evaluate where you

Re: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-16 Thread Susan Bradley
atch old code." t -Original Message- From: full-disclosure-boun...@lists.grok.org.uk [mailto:full- disclosure-boun...@lists.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God) Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 8:00 AM To: Eric C. Lukens; bugtraq@securityfocus.com Cc: full-disclos...@lists.grok.o

RE: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-16 Thread Thor (Hammer of God)
me. t > -Original Message- > From: Susan Bradley [mailto:sbrad...@pacbell.net] > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:16 AM > To: Thor (Hammer of God) > Cc: bugtraq@securityfocus.com; full-disclos...@lists.grok.org.uk > Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party pat

Re: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-16 Thread Susan Bradley
Seems like simple logic points to me. t -Original Message- From: Susan Bradley [mailto:sbrad...@pacbell.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:16 AM To: Thor (Hammer of God) Cc: bugtraq@securityfocus.com; full-disclos...@lists.grok.org.uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party

RE: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-16 Thread Thor (Hammer of God)
ainfully obvious, not obviously painful. t > -Original Message- > From: Larry Seltzer [mailto:la...@larryseltzer.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 8:21 AM > To: Thor (Hammer of God); Eric C. Lukens; bugtraq@securityfocus.com > Cc: full-disclos...@lists.grok.org.uk &

Re: 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-16 Thread Susan Bradley
Only if you are a consumer. In a network we ALL have listening ports out there. elizabeth.a.gre...@gmail.com wrote: As I understand the bulletin, Microsoft will not be releasing MS09-048 patches for XP because, by default, it runs no listening services or the windows firewall can protect it.

Re: 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-16 Thread Tom Grace
Is this relevant? QUOTE--- Protect to 2 for the best protection against SYN attacks. This value adds additional delays to connection indications, and TCP connection requests quickly timeout when a SYN attack is in progress. This parameter is the recommended setting. NOTE: The following socket

RE: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-16 Thread Thor (Hammer of God)
n...@lists.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God) > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 8:00 AM > To: Eric C. Lukens; bugtraq@securityfocus.com > Cc: full-disclos...@lists.grok.org.uk > Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048? > > Thanks for the link.

RE: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-16 Thread Larry Seltzer
.grok.org.uk [mailto:full-disclosure-boun...@lists.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God) Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:00 AM To: Eric C. Lukens; bugtraq@securityfocus.com Cc: full-disclos...@lists.grok.org.uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048? Thanks f

RE: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-16 Thread Thor (Hammer of God)
ginal Message- > From: full-disclosure-boun...@lists.grok.org.uk [mailto:full- > disclosure-boun...@lists.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of Eric C. Lukens > Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 2:37 PM > To: bugtraq@securityfocus.com > Cc: full-disclos...@lists.grok.org.uk > Subject: R

Re: Re: 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-16 Thread Elizabeth . a . greene
As I understand the bulletin, Microsoft will not be releasing MS09-048 patches for XP because, by default, it runs no listening services or the windows firewall can protect it. Quoting http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS09-048.mspx "If Windows XP is listed as an affected pro

Re: 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-16 Thread Susan Bradley
It's not that they aren't supported per se, just that Microsoft has deemed the impact of DOS to be low, the ability to patch that platform impossible/difficult and thus have make a risk calculation accordingly. Sometimes the architecture is what it is. Jeffrey Walton wrote: Hi Susan, Rea

Re: 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-16 Thread Matt Riddell
On 16/09/09 8:49 AM, Jeffrey Walton wrote: Hi Aras, Given that M$ has officially shot-down all current Windows XP users by not issuing a patch for a DoS level issue, Can you cite a reference? http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/09/15/0131209 -- Cheers, Matt Riddell Director

Re: 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-16 Thread Jeffrey Walton
Hi Susan, > Read the bulletin. There's no patch. It is deemed by Microsoft to be of > low impact and thus no patch has been built. I don't know how I missed that XP/SP2 and above were not being patched. It appears that my two references are worhtless... I used to use them in position papers! * h

Re: 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-16 Thread Eric C. Lukens
ry. -Eric Original Message Subject: Re: 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048? From: Jeffrey Walton To: nowh...@devnull.com Cc: bugtraq@securityfocus.com, full-disclos...@lists.grok.org.uk Date: 9/15/09 3:49 PM > Hi Aras, > > >> Given that M$ has officially shot-down all curren

Re: 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-16 Thread Susan Bradley
Microsoft Security Bulletin MS09-048 - Critical: Vulnerabilities in Windows TCP/IP Could Allow Remote Code Execution (967723): http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS09-048.mspx If Windows XP is listed as an affected product, why is Microsoft not issuing an update for it?By defaul

Re: 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-16 Thread Susan Bradley
Read the bulletin. There's no patch. It is deemed by Microsoft to be of low impact and thus no patch has been built. Jeffrey Walton wrote: Hi Aras, Given that M$ has officially shot-down all current Windows XP users by not issuing a patch for a DoS level issue, Can you cite a refer

Re: 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-16 Thread Eric Kimminau
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9138007/Microsoft_No_TCP_IP_patches_for_you_XP http://edge.technet.com/Media/MSRC-Monthly-Security-Bulletin-Webcast-September-2009/ Jeffrey Walton wrote: Hi Aras, Given that M$ has officially shot-down all current Windows XP users by not issuing a pat

Re: 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-15 Thread Jeffrey Walton
Hi Aras, > Given that M$ has officially shot-down all current Windows XP users by not > issuing a patch for a DoS level issue, Can you cite a reference? Unless Microsoft has changed their end of life policy [1], XP should be patched for security vulnerabilities until about 2014. Both XP Home and

3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-15 Thread Aras "Russ" Memisyazici
Hello All: Given that M$ has officially shot-down all current Windows XP users by not issuing a patch for a DoS level issue, I'm now curious to find out whether or not any brave souls out there are already working or willing to work on an open-source patch to remediate the issue within XP. I real