Re: [FD] Mozilla extensions: a security nightmare

2015-08-07 Thread Stefan Kanthak
Mario Vilas mvi...@gmail.com wrote: W^X applies to memory protection, completely irrelevant here. I recommend to revisit elementary school and start to learn reading! http://seclists.org/bugtraq/2015/Aug/8 | JFTR: current software separates code from data in virtual memory and | uses

RE: [FD] Mozilla extensions: a security nightmare

2015-08-07 Thread Steve Friedl
[mailto:stefan.kant...@nexgo.de] Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 12:33 PM To: Mario Vilas Cc: bugtraq; fulldisclosure Subject: Re: [FD] Mozilla extensions: a security nightmare Mario Vilas mvi...@gmail.com wrote: W^X applies to memory protection, completely irrelevant here. I recommend to revisit

Re: [FD] Mozilla extensions: a security nightmare

2015-08-07 Thread Jakob Holderbaum
' Subject: RE: [FD] Mozilla extensions: a security nightmare Posting on top because that's where the cursor happens to be is like sh*tt*ng in your pants because that's where your *ssh*l* happens to be! Here, let me fix this for you: I don't expect to be taking seriously by any technical

RE: [FD] Mozilla extensions: a security nightmare

2015-08-07 Thread Frank Waarsenburg
[mailto:st...@unixwiz.net] Sent: vrijdag 7 augustus 2015 8:17 To: 'Stefan Kanthak'; 'Mario Vilas' Cc: 'bugtraq'; 'fulldisclosure' Subject: RE: [FD] Mozilla extensions: a security nightmare Posting on top because that's where the cursor happens to be is like sh*tt*ng in your pants because that's

Re: [FD] Mozilla extensions: a security nightmare

2015-08-07 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 06.08.2015 um 21:33 schrieb Stefan Kanthak: # mount /home -o noexec bash /home/whatever/binary and you are done any attacker which don't know this would not come far at all signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [FD] Mozilla extensions: a security nightmare

2015-08-07 Thread Teddy A PURWADI
Fri, Aug 7, 2015. 2:26:54 PM. Yes Please :-) Thanks cheers, /tap -Original Message- From: Jakob Holderbaum h...@jakob.io Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 09:13:04 To: bugtraq@securityfocus.com Subject: Re: [FD] Mozilla extensions: a security nightmare I want to stress the point made here

Re: [FD] Mozilla extensions: a security nightmare

2015-08-06 Thread Bruce A. Peters
: bugtraq@securityfocus.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2015 5:55:05 AM Subject: Re: [FD] Mozilla extensions: a security nightmare that's all fine but * nothing new, independent of lightning * how do you imagine a restricted user install a extension otherwise * and no - he must not do

Re: [FD] Mozilla extensions: a security nightmare

2015-08-06 Thread Stefan Kanthak
Ansgar Wiechers bugt...@planetcobalt.net wrote: On 2015-08-05 Stefan Kanthak wrote: Mario Vilas mvi...@gmail.com wrote: If this is the case then the problem is one of bad file permissions, not the location. Incidentally, many other browsers and tons of software also store executable code

Re: [FD] Mozilla extensions: a security nightmare

2015-08-06 Thread Reindl Harald
that's all fine but * nothing new, independent of lightning * how do you imagine a restricted user install a extension otherwise * and no - he must not do that is not a acceptable solution security and usability are always a tradeoff hence the topic *is* nonsense Am 05.08.2015 um 21:27 schrieb

Re: [FD] Mozilla extensions: a security nightmare

2015-08-06 Thread Christoph Gruber
Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: that's all fine but * nothing new, independent of lightning ACK * how do you imagine a restricted user install a extension otherwise Real sandboxing, if not possible, give the users the possibility to activate admin-installed extension, and

Re: [FD] Mozilla extensions: a security nightmare

2015-08-06 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 06.08.2015 um 19:03 schrieb Christoph Gruber: Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: that's all fine but * nothing new, independent of lightning ACK * how do you imagine a restricted user install a extension otherwise Real sandboxing, if not possible, give the users the

Re: [FD] Mozilla extensions: a security nightmare

2015-08-06 Thread Stefan Kanthak
Mario Vilas mvi...@gmail.com wrote: This makes no sense. Right. W^X obviously doesnt make sense to YOU. Administrator can write everywhere and users can write their own directories. There is no privilege escalation here, no security boundary being crossed. Who wrote anything about

Re: [FD] Mozilla extensions: a security nightmare

2015-08-06 Thread Andrew Deck
Well, here's my 2 cents: - Yes, it's unfortunate that firefox extensions are not in write-protected parts of the FS. - No, it's not worth eight paragraphs of ranting on this mailing list, use of all caps, or calling some piece of software evil. - The sudo-like functionality present in Windows

Re: [FD] Mozilla extensions: a security nightmare

2015-08-06 Thread Stefan Kanthak
Mario Vilas mvi...@gmail.com wrote: If it can only be written by your own user, what would be the security boundary being crossed here? Please read AGAIN what I already wrote! | The security boundary created by privilege separation ie. Administrator/root vs. user | and installation of

Re: [FD] Mozilla extensions: a security nightmare

2015-08-05 Thread Stefan Kanthak
Mario Vilas mvi...@gmail.com wrote: %APPDATA% is within the user's home directory - by default it should not be writeable by other users. Did I mention OTHER users? Clearly not, so your argument is moot. If this is the case then the problem is one of bad file permissions, not the location.

Re: [FD] Mozilla extensions: a security nightmare

2015-08-05 Thread Ansgar Wiechers
On 2015-08-05 Stefan Kanthak wrote: Mario Vilas mvi...@gmail.com wrote: If this is the case then the problem is one of bad file permissions, not the location. Incidentally, many other browsers and tons of software also store executable code in %APPDATA%. Cf.

Mozilla extensions: a security nightmare

2015-08-04 Thread Stefan Kanthak
Hi @ll, Mozilla Thunderbird 38 and newer installs and activates per default the 'Lightning' extension. Since extensions live in the (Firefox and) Thunderbird profiles (which are stored beneath %APPDATA% in Windows) and 'Lightning' comes (at least for Windows) with a DLL and some Javascript,