Re: jdk8 build times

2013-09-23 Thread Ivan Krylov
I thought I would pitch in my build times: On i7 MBP with SSD, when booted natively into Windows 7 64bits - 9 min 32 sec Same but virtualized with 4 cores and 4 Gb ram: 15 min 10 sec Ivan On 8/29/13 9:36 AM, Weijun Wang wrote: I have watched this thread for some time. Yes, SSD should be faste

jdk8 build times

2013-09-13 Thread Pete Brunet
Hi, After trying the following with no significant improvement - remove Norton 360 anti-virus - defrag hard file - upgrade cygwin and java boot jre - remove the search index attribute from all files on the entire hard file - turned off some processes that seemed to be using disk cycles: Acronis Tru

Re: jdk8 build times

2013-09-04 Thread Pete Brunet
Hi Ioi, Now that the HOTSPOTMKSHOME env var is pointing at my cygwin directory... On 8/28/13 9:32 PM, Ioi Lam wrote: > Pete, > > By the way, for the purposes of testing your build speed, instead of > spending a long time building JDK8, maybe you can just build hotspot. > It's not completely propor

Re: jdk8 build times

2013-09-04 Thread Pete Brunet
Hi Ioi, Here's what I got this time, pointing at jdk8 b73 which was downloaded from the EA site -Pete c:\Users\Pete\JDK8\jdk8\hotspot\make\windows>create c:\Users\Pete\jdk1.8.0 cygwin warning: MS-DOS style path detected: c:\Users\Pete\JDK8\jdk8\hotspot\/make/windows/get_msc_ver.sh Preferred PO

Re: jdk8 build times

2013-09-04 Thread Ioi Lam
Hi Pete, create.bat is a script in thehotspot\make\windowsdirectory. It needs a parameter that points to a valid JDK 8 build. I have d:\re\jdk8-b102\windows-i586on my PC, but need to change that to point to where you put the JDK. - Ioi On 09/04/2013 08:14 AM, Pete Brunet wrote: create d:\r

Re: jdk8 build times

2013-09-04 Thread Pete Brunet
Hi Erik, Getting caught up on email... On 8/30/13 2:08 AM, Erik Joelsson wrote: > Two more questions: > > Are you building 32 or 64bit and how many jvm variants? I built 64bit > so only server. I am only building 32 bit. My config/make invocations are: bash ./configure --with-freetype=/cygdrive/

Re: jdk8 build times

2013-09-04 Thread Pete Brunet
Hi loi, I tried what you suggested and got the following. What other steps do I need to take? -Pete Setting environment for using Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 x86 tools. C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 10.0\VC>cd c:\Users\Pete\JDK8\jdk8\hotspot\make\windows c:\Users\Pete\JDK8\jd

Re: jdk8 build times

2013-09-03 Thread Pete Brunet
Hi Dimitri, On 8/13/13 9:19 AM, Dmitry Samersoff wrote: > Peter, > > 1. When you "turn norton off" it's actually still hook all opens, so >significantly slow down things. > >Try to create exclusion rule to exclude your build directory from >protection. At least for now I uninstalled it.

Re: jdk8 build times

2013-08-30 Thread Volker Simonis
Hi Pete, a very silly question but are you sure you are using the new build? Maybe you can post your complete configure and make commands and your environemnt? Your build times really look like the ones from the old build. What build times did you had for building jdk7 for example? Regards, Volke

Re: jdk8 build times

2013-08-30 Thread Erik Joelsson
Two more questions: Are you building 32 or 64bit and how many jvm variants? I built 64bit so only server. What boot jdk are you using? 32 or 64bit? You haven't accidentally put a debug build there or something? I'm using a 64bit jdk7u something, probably 4 or 7, can't access the machine to c

Re: jdk8 build times

2013-08-29 Thread Pete Brunet
Besides removing Norton 360 I defragged my disk with Auslogics Disk Defrag. The disk was quite fragmented prior to running the defragger but neither of those helped much. Current situation: WinSat disk: Average Read Time with Sequential Writes 23.026 ms Latency: 95th Percentile

Re: jdk8 build times

2013-08-29 Thread David DeHaven
--with-java-devtools and J: or /java is a network mounted share? -DrD- > I have watched this thread for some time. Yes, SSD should be faster but > Pete's build times are just incredibly slow and there must be some other > reason. > > I just open my Lenovo t410 (i5 2.6GHz, 8GB RAM, HDD) that h

Re: jdk8 build times

2013-08-29 Thread Erik Joelsson
On 2013-08-28 23:30, Pete Brunet wrote: On 8/28/13 6:21 AM, Erik Joelsson wrote: Nice to see improvement, but it's still far from where it should be. For comparison, here are my build times on a similar, but probably slower, laptop. Lenovo T410, i5 M 520 2.40GHz and 4GB ram, no ssd. This lapto

Re: jdk8 build times

2013-08-28 Thread Weijun Wang
I have watched this thread for some time. Yes, SSD should be faster but Pete's build times are just incredibly slow and there must be some other reason. I just open my Lenovo t410 (i5 2.6GHz, 8GB RAM, HDD) that has been asleep for the last two days, mkdir a new directory, run configure and "m

Re: jdk8 build times

2013-08-28 Thread Ioi Lam
Dell laptop (Win7, i5-2520M 2.5Ghz, 8GB RAM) + Samsung 840 PRO SSD 256GB. The JDK source tree is excluded from virus scan. The source has all the open and closed parts. I ran configure and "make all" with all default parameters. - Build times --- Start 2013-08-28 20:33:57 End 2013-

Re: jdk8 build times

2013-08-28 Thread Ioi Lam
Pete, By the way, for the purposes of testing your build speed, instead of spending a long time building JDK8, maybe you can just build hotspot. It's not completely proportional but would give you some ideas whether you should consider getting another laptop :-) Start Menu -> All Programs ->

Re: jdk8 build times

2013-08-28 Thread Ioi Lam
On 08/28/2013 11:47 AM, Pete Brunet wrote: Thanks Tim, On 8/27/13 6:44 PM, Tim Bell wrote: Good advice on the virus scanning front, and of course every bit helps. Also keep in mind that laptop components often sacrifice performance in favor of saving space, power, and battery life. A laptop i

Re: jdk8 build times

2013-08-28 Thread David Holmes
On 29/08/2013 7:44 AM, Pete Brunet wrote: On 8/28/13 2:11 PM, Tim Bell wrote: On 08/28/13 11:47 AM, Pete Brunet wrote: Since winset ran in a separate window and it closed before I could use the info I needed this advice: http://superuser.com/questions/93826/winsat-command-line-closes-too-fast

Re: jdk8 build times

2013-08-28 Thread Pete Brunet
On 8/28/13 2:11 PM, Tim Bell wrote: > On 08/28/13 11:47 AM, Pete Brunet wrote: > >> Since winset ran in a separate window and it closed before I could >> use the info I needed this advice: >> http://superuser.com/questions/93826/winsat-command-line-closes-too-fast >> Running as admin solved it. >

Re: jdk8 build times

2013-08-28 Thread Pete Brunet
On 8/28/13 6:21 AM, Erik Joelsson wrote: > Nice to see improvement, but it's still far from where it should be. > For comparison, here are my build times on a similar, but probably > slower, laptop. Lenovo T410, i5 M 520 2.40GHz and 4GB ram, no ssd. > This laptop has no anti virus scanning install

Re: jdk8 build times

2013-08-28 Thread Tim Bell
On 08/28/13 11:47 AM, Pete Brunet wrote: Since winset ran in a separate window and it closed before I could use the info I needed this advice: http://superuser.com/questions/93826/winsat-command-line-closes-too-fast Running as admin solved it. Or open a command window and type in the command

Re: jdk8 build times

2013-08-28 Thread Pete Brunet
Thanks Tim, On 8/27/13 6:44 PM, Tim Bell wrote: > Good advice on the virus scanning front, and of course every bit helps. > > Also keep in mind that laptop components often sacrifice performance > in favor of saving space, power, and battery life. A laptop is not a > workstation. > > If your lapt

Re: jdk8 build times

2013-08-28 Thread Dmitry Samersoff
Pete, One of ways to get rid of antivirus is to install VirtualBox, another copy of windows into VirtualBox and do all unsafe internet access from within this box. -Dmitry On 2013-08-09 18:44, Pete Brunet wrote: > My product is Norton 360. To turn it off I right click on the Norton > 360 icon

Re: jdk8 build times

2013-08-28 Thread Erik Joelsson
Nice to see improvement, but it's still far from where it should be. For comparison, here are my build times on a similar, but probably slower, laptop. Lenovo T410, i5 M 520 2.40GHz and 4GB ram, no ssd. This laptop has no anti virus scanning installed. - Build times --- Start 2013-08-2

Re: jdk8 build times

2013-08-27 Thread Tim Bell
Good advice on the virus scanning front, and of course every bit helps. Also keep in mind that laptop components often sacrifice performance in favor of saving space, power, and battery life. A laptop is not a workstation. If your laptop drive is a sad little unit like mine, you pay and pay.

Re: jdk8 build times

2013-08-27 Thread Kelly O'Hair
Peter, It might be important for you to make sure the boot jdk image, and all tools used to build (like VS2010) also in the ignore list. Maybe CYGWIN too. The boot jdk rt.jar file in particular can be slow to virus scan. It kind of depends on how smart (or not) the virus scanner is on re-scanning

Re: jdk8 build times

2013-08-27 Thread Pete Brunet
Here are my release build times with my repo tree in the Norton 360 real time virus checking ignore list: 00:03:34 corba 00:12:51 demos 00:15:10 docs 00:18:42 hotspot 00:15:55 images 00:01:42 jaxp 00:07:32 jaxws 00:43:04 jdk 00:04:17 langtools 00:02:31 nashorn 02:05:18 TOTAL Here are the prior ti

Re: jdk8 build times

2013-08-13 Thread Dmitry Samersoff
Peter, 1. When you "turn norton off" it's actually still hook all opens, so significantly slow down things. Try to create exclusion rule to exclude your build directory from protection. 2. Make sure you have SATA controller in AHCI but not legacy mode in a BIOS, (make sure you have A

Re: jdk8 build times

2013-08-09 Thread Andreas Rieber
Sorry, Peter. Can't help you there... Any SSD is better than none as long as it works in your T500 ;-) On 09.08.13 18:25, Pete Brunet wrote: Any suggestions for SSDs? My T500 takes 2.5" SATA II. On 8/9/13 10:44 AM, Andreas Rieber wrote: Hi Peter, try perfmon.exe to see where the bottleneck

Re: jdk8 build times

2013-08-09 Thread Pete Brunet
Any suggestions for SSDs? My T500 takes 2.5" SATA II. On 8/9/13 10:44 AM, Andreas Rieber wrote: > Hi Peter, > > try perfmon.exe to see where the bottleneck is. Most likely it is > memory or io. If you have the option, go for a SSD drive (you will get > build times ~10 minutes). > > Andreas > > >

Re: jdk8 build times

2013-08-09 Thread Andreas Rieber
Hi Peter, try perfmon.exe to see where the bottleneck is. Most likely it is memory or io. If you have the option, go for a SSD drive (you will get build times ~10 minutes). Andreas On 09.08.13 16:44, Pete Brunet wrote: My product is Norton 360. To turn it off I right click on the Norton 3

Re: jdk8 build times

2013-08-09 Thread Pete Brunet
My product is Norton 360. To turn it off I right click on the Norton 360 icon in the system tray and choose Disable Antivirus Auto-Protect. If anyone knows if this is not sufficient and what else needs to be done please let me know. Pete On 8/9/13 1:58 AM, Erik Joelsson wrote: > I wonder if an

Re: jdk8 build times

2013-08-09 Thread Erik Joelsson
I wonder if anti virus is really turned off here. In my experience, it's hard to make it stop completely. I have a slightly older laptop, same brand, that builds this in around 40-45 minutes. /Erik On 2013-08-09 03:32, Pete Brunet wrote: Haven't rebuilt a release version yet for a true compar

Re: jdk8 build times

2013-08-08 Thread Pete Brunet
Haven't rebuilt a release version yet for a true comparison but here are my fastdebug times with anti-virus turned off; about the same as release with anti-virus on. 00:04:30 corba 00:07:25 demos 00:16:28 docs 00:16:15 hotspot 00:23:13 images 00:04:18 jaxp 00:07:29 jaxws 00:59:41 jdk 00:05:11 lang

Re: jdk8 build times

2013-08-06 Thread Kelly O'Hair
4. Using a debug jdk as your boot jdk :) Langtools taking 6 minutes is crazy long. Since there is no native code there, #1 would be my first guess. -kto On Aug 5, 2013, at 5:54 PM, Weijun Wang wrote: > From my experiences there are 3 reasons a compile could be slow: > > 1. Anti-Virus program

Re: jdk8 build times

2013-08-05 Thread Pete Brunet
#1 could be it in my case. I'll report back the next time I build without that. On 8/5/13 7:54 PM, Weijun Wang wrote: > From my experiences there are 3 reasons a compile could be slow: > > 1. Anti-Virus programs > 2. Virtual Machines > 3. Network folders > > --Max > > On 8/6/13 12:48 AM, Pete Bru

Re: jdk8 build times

2013-08-05 Thread Weijun Wang
From my experiences there are 3 reasons a compile could be slow: 1. Anti-Virus programs 2. Virtual Machines 3. Network folders --Max On 8/6/13 12:48 AM, Pete Brunet wrote: Hi Erik, 00:05:55 corba 00:09:46 demos 00:15:00 docs 00:18:37 hotspot 00:17:13 images 00:03:32 jaxp 00:11:41 jaxws 01:05:

Re: jdk8 build times

2013-08-05 Thread Mario Torre
That's s feature, not a bug! :) http://xkcd.com/303/ (Sorry, I couldn't resist) Cheers, Mario Il giorno 02/ago/2013 22:26, "Pete Brunet" ha scritto: > FWIW I just built 32 bit jdk8 release on 64 bit win 7 with cygwin 1.7.21 > on a dual core 8 GB 2.53 GHz Lenovo T500 and the build time was 2:37

Re: jdk8 build times

2013-08-05 Thread Pete Brunet
Hi Erik, 00:05:55 corba 00:09:46 demos 00:15:00 docs 00:18:37 hotspot 00:17:13 images 00:03:32 jaxp 00:11:41 jaxws 01:05:35 jdk 00:06:47 langtools 00:02:26 nashorn 02:37:45 TOTAL Pete On 8/5/13 6:55 AM, Erik Joelsson wrote: > That was disappointingly slow for sure. Do you have the build time > s

Re: jdk8 build times

2013-08-05 Thread Erik Joelsson
That was disappointingly slow for sure. Do you have the build time summary listing? /Erik On 2013-08-02 22:26, Pete Brunet wrote: FWIW I just built 32 bit jdk8 release on 64 bit win 7 with cygwin 1.7.21 on a dual core 8 GB 2.53 GHz Lenovo T500 and the build time was 2:37:45.

jdk8 build times

2013-08-02 Thread Pete Brunet
FWIW I just built 32 bit jdk8 release on 64 bit win 7 with cygwin 1.7.21 on a dual core 8 GB 2.53 GHz Lenovo T500 and the build time was 2:37:45.