Re: Amusing article about busybox

2012-02-11 Thread Mark Constable
On 11/02/12 16:41, Rogelio Serrano wrote: we might as well just rewrite linux under a more permissive license... Feel free, have fun. Not that anyone cares but I wouldn't be using it. I am guessing but I suspect a lot of the intellectual semantics of how busybox works will be transferred to

Re: Amusing article about busybox

2012-02-11 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 1:56 AM, Rich Felker dal...@aerifal.cx wrote: On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 10:16:06PM +0200, Felipe Contreras wrote: We don't care about compliance, compliance is almost useless. What we need is for them to become members of the community, and that can only happen within, by

Re: Amusing article about busybox

2012-02-11 Thread Rich Felker
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 08:05:26PM +1000, Mark Constable wrote: On 11/02/12 16:41, Rogelio Serrano wrote: we might as well just rewrite linux under a more permissive license... Feel free, have fun. Not that anyone cares but I wouldn't be using it. I am guessing but I suspect a lot of the

Re: Amusing article about busybox

2012-02-11 Thread Rich Felker
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 03:00:38PM +0200, Felipe Contreras wrote: What matters a lot more is utility to users who have received Android devices, who want to be able to use their hardware without the encumbrance of the vendor-shipped crapware. The fact that the source code is public and

Re: Amusing article about busybox

2012-02-11 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Rich Felker dal...@aerifal.cx wrote: On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 03:00:38PM +0200, Felipe Contreras wrote: What matters a lot more is utility to users who have received Android devices, who want to be able to use their hardware without the encumbrance of the

Re: Amusing article about busybox

2012-02-11 Thread Laurent Bercot
Sony is the antithesis of good citizen in every possible way. Then why are they making Toybox open? Is anybody suing them to do that? No. Your premises are wrong. Toybox wasn't made by Sony. Toybox was made by Rob Landley. Sony is merely *using* Toybox. They chose to do so because Toybox's

Re: Amusing article about busybox

2012-02-11 Thread Bradley M. Kuhn
Felipe Contreras wrote at 15:16 (EST) yesterday: Enforcement only ensures that we would get the bare minimum (legal) from the company, and IMO that doesn't help much. OpenWRT and SamyGo are two excellent counterexamples. While in both cases, BusyBox GPL enforcement yielded only a bare minimum

Re: Amusing article about busybox

2012-02-11 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Bradley M. Kuhn bk...@ebb.org wrote: Felipe Contreras wrote at 15:16 (EST) yesterday: Enforcement only ensures that we would get the bare minimum (legal) from the company, and IMO that doesn't help much. OpenWRT and SamyGo are two excellent counterexamples.  

Re: Amusing article about busybox

2012-02-11 Thread Rich Felker
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 04:47:25PM +0200, Felipe Contreras wrote: On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Rich Felker dal...@aerifal.cx wrote: On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 03:00:38PM +0200, Felipe Contreras wrote: What matters a lot more is utility to users who have received Android devices, who want

Re: Amusing article about busybox

2012-02-11 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 1:14 AM, Rich Felker dal...@aerifal.cx wrote: On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 04:47:25PM +0200, Felipe Contreras wrote: On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Rich Felker dal...@aerifal.cx wrote: On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 03:00:38PM +0200, Felipe Contreras wrote: What matters a lot

Re: Amusing article about busybox

2012-02-11 Thread Ralf Friedl
Felipe Contreras wrote: On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Bradley M. Kuhn bk...@ebb.org wrote: Felipe Contreras wrote at 15:16 (EST) yesterday: Enforcement only ensures that we would get the bare minimum (legal) from the company, and IMO that doesn't help much. OpenWRT and