Re: [BVARC] Fm transmitter for Easter service

[Mark Brantana via BVARC]

A shot urge dark, but take a look at an app called BeONAIR. 

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> On Apr 9, 2020, at 12:35 PM, David Hold via BVARC  wrote:
> 
> 
> Good luck 
> Hate PA. All echo and distorted and unintelligible 
> 
>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 11:02 AM Martin Blaise via BVARC  
>> wrote:
>> We are just going to have the pastor stand in the grass outside the church 
>> with an amplifier. If it is unsafe to roll down windows please let me know 
>> and I will contact the church and tell them not to do it. Thanks I had 
>> encouraged leaving parking spaces open between cars. If I am going too far 
>> on this let me know. Thanks. We won't have many cars there.
>> 
>>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 10:48 AM Gus Bernard via BVARC  
>>> wrote:
>>> Great article, Jimmy - thanks!
>>> 
>>> Gus, KG5OFB
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 6:14 PM Jimmy Vance via BVARC  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> This is a good article that discusses the subject at hand
>>>> 
>>>> https://thepublicsradio.org/episode/theec-radio-for-churches-during-coronavirus
>>>> 
>>>> --jv
>>>> NA5D
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 4/8/2020 12:13 PM, SETX Telecom via BVARC wrote:
>>>>> The LEGAL limit for unlicensed operation in the FM as well as other bands 
>>>>> is in Part 15It is NOT based on power but a field intensity..In the 
>>>>> FM band of 88-108, it comes CLOSE to 100mw ERP (Effective Radiated Power) 
>>>>> but not exact. Bluetooth is usually limited to 30ft. 100mw on FM MAY get 
>>>>> you legally 300 ftA CB radio would cover that better but then how 
>>>>> many of the attendees would have CBs oin their cars? 
>>>>> Multiple FM Part15 xmtrs placed in the right spots would work IF You can 
>>>>> find enough clear frequencies. Then you have to get the audio to them
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Christopher W. Boone
>>>>> WB5ITT
>>>>> Trustee, W5APX
>>>>> Chief Engineer, iHeartMedia New Orleans
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 12:01 PM john Parmalee via BVARC  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> I have watched this thread and thought about it and an idea struck me.  
>>>>>> Why not use a service monitor. An IFR or equivalent will cover the FM 
>>>>>> band,   I don't know it it will modulate to 75 kHz without distorting so 
>>>>>> you have to turn the receiver up a bit.  I don't know what size of 
>>>>>> parking but I suggest an antenna cut to frequency  up 15 or 20 feet  or 
>>>>>> you might try a mobile mag mount stuck to a pipe vertical. it will be 
>>>>>> short but has a coil in the base that will extend it. Make sure it has 
>>>>>> something metal to mount to to.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I defiantly think you need a run through with enough time for a redo.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As far as the FCC is concerned you are a pirate station and illegal.  As 
>>>>>> far as I know under part 15 you can run a low power AM transmitter but 
>>>>>> no provisions for the FM band.  It is quite common though for translated 
>>>>>> audio in services and such with no enforcement action if there is no 
>>>>>> interference to anyone.  Choose your frequency by listening carefully,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I expect a full parking lot will be different RF wise from an empty, Get 
>>>>>> that antenna in the air, you will need the margin.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Call me if I can help, let me know how it went. Good luck and may god 
>>>>>> bless your service..
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> John Parmalee
>>>>>> jparma...@aol.com
>>>>>> 281-380-3811
>>>>>> K5VGM WI2XLJ
>>>>>> In a message dated 3/31/2020 4:45:33 PM Central Standard Time, 
>>>>>> bvarc@bvarc.org writes:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Found this on Google; haven't verified with the legal code.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://learnchristmaslighting.com/what-fm-transmitter-do-i-need-for-my-christmas-light-show/
>>>>>> What FM Transmitter Do I Need for My Christmas Light Show? – Learn 
>>>>>> Christmas Lighting
>>&g

Re: [BVARC] Fm transmitter for Easter service

[John parmalee via BVARC]

t;>>> As far as I know under part 15 you can run a low power AM transmitter 
>>>>>>>> but no provisions for the FM band.  It is quite common though for 
>>>>>>>> translated audio in services and such with no enforcement action if 
>>>>>>>> there is no interference to anyone.  Choose your frequency by 
>>>>>>>> listening carefully,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I expect a full parking lot will be different RF wise from an empty, 
>>>>>>>> Get that antenna in the air, you will need the margin.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Call me if I can help, let me know how it went. Good luck and may god 
>>>>>>>> bless your service..
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> John Parmalee
>>>>>>>> jparma...@aol.com
>>>>>>>> 281-380-3811
>>>>>>>> K5VGM WI2XLJ
>>>>>>>> In a message dated 3/31/2020 4:45:33 PM Central Standard Time, 
>>>>>>>> bvarc@bvarc.org writes:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Found this on Google; haven't verified with the legal code.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> https://learnchristmaslighting.com/what-fm-transmitter-do-i-need-for-my-christmas-light-show/
>>>>>>>> What FM Transmitter Do I Need for My Christmas Light Show? – Learn 
>>>>>>>> Christmas Lighting
>>>>>>>> Okay, maybe they aren’t “turning the dial” quite like the old days, 
>>>>>>>> but if you want your display to be heard, you need an FM transmitter.. 
>>>>>>>> Even though setting up some large PA speakers might seem like a good 
>>>>>>>> idea, you’ll quickly lose the friendship of your neighbors!
>>>>>>>> learnchristmaslighting.com
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> From: BVARC  on behalf of Ravi Patrick 
>>>>>>>> Ratnala via BVARC 
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 4:40 PM
>>>>>>>> To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB 
>>>>>>>> Cc: Ravi Patrick Ratnala 
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [BVARC] Fm transmitter for Easter service
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Marty,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I've read the same thing - somewhere - but I can't find anything 
>>>>>>>> permitting it in the regs, so I don't know if it's true.  If it is, I 
>>>>>>>> imagine it would be for things like bluetooth devices that are 
>>>>>>>> designed to pump spotify from your phone through your car's radio.  If 
>>>>>>>> so, I'd suspect that "100 feet" is a dreamy maximum, and that it would 
>>>>>>>> sound terrible in the real-life scenario you describe.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> But as always, FleaBay to the rescue: a 6-watt FM transmitter!  For 
>>>>>>>> just a hundred bucks, you can start your very own pirate radio station 
>>>>>>>> anywhere on the commercial FM dial.  This thing should provide nice, 
>>>>>>>> punchy audio to your entire church's congregation.  Very, very 
>>>>>>>> illegal, though.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Retekess-6W-FM-Transmitter-Stereo-Station-Antenna-Wireless-Factory-Church-Home/324108794811?hash=item4b7663:g:48UAAOSwBfhcExIJ
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> How about just setting up a PA system?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 73 de N5OL
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 3/31/2020 3:01 PM, Martin Blaise via BVARC wrote:
>>>>>>>> I read that anything 25 milliwatts or less for 100 feet is ok
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 3:00 PM Alexander Park via BVARC 
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> I'm not sure that will be legal without an license
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2020, 2:09 PM Martin Blaise via BVARC 
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> My church would like to do a parking lot service for Easter and my 
>>>>>>>> pastor asked me what fm transmitter we could use to broadcast the 
>>>>>>>> service from the church to the cars per social distancing. Email or 
>>>>>>>> call me at 713-305-2148 thanks Marty
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> 
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Re: [BVARC] Fm transmitter for Easter service

[John parmalee via BVARC]

By all means NO. Find an IFR service monitor and go for it. Some body has one I 
am sure, maybe Eddie. 

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> On Apr 9, 2020, at 12:47 PM, Martin Blaise via BVARC  wrote:
> 
> 
> Should I tell my pastor to cancel the Easter service and just tape it?
> 
>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 12:35 PM David Hold via BVARC  wrote:
>> Good luck 
>> Hate PA. All echo and distorted and unintelligible 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 11:02 AM Martin Blaise via BVARC  
>>> wrote:
>>> We are just going to have the pastor stand in the grass outside the church 
>>> with an amplifier. If it is unsafe to roll down windows please let me know 
>>> and I will contact the church and tell them not to do it. Thanks I had 
>>> encouraged leaving parking spaces open between cars. If I am going too far 
>>> on this let me know. Thanks. We won't have many cars there.
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 10:48 AM Gus Bernard via BVARC  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Great article, Jimmy - thanks!
>>>> 
>>>> Gus, KG5OFB
>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 6:14 PM Jimmy Vance via BVARC  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> This is a good article that discusses the subject at hand
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://thepublicsradio.org/episode/theec-radio-for-churches-during-coronavirus
>>>>> 
>>>>> --jv
>>>>> NA5D
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 4/8/2020 12:13 PM, SETX Telecom via BVARC wrote:
>>>>>> The LEGAL limit for unlicensed operation in the FM as well as other 
>>>>>> bands is in Part 15It is NOT based on power but a field 
>>>>>> intensity..In the FM band of 88-108, it comes CLOSE to 100mw ERP 
>>>>>> (Effective Radiated Power) but not exact. Bluetooth is usually limited 
>>>>>> to 30ft. 100mw on FM MAY get you legally 300 ftA CB radio would 
>>>>>> cover that better but then how many of the attendees would have CBs oin 
>>>>>> their cars? 
>>>>>> Multiple FM Part15 xmtrs placed in the right spots would work IF You can 
>>>>>> find enough clear frequencies. Then you have to get the audio to them
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Christopher W. Boone
>>>>>> WB5ITT
>>>>>> Trustee, W5APX
>>>>>> Chief Engineer, iHeartMedia New Orleans
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 12:01 PM john Parmalee via BVARC 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> I have watched this thread and thought about it and an idea struck me.  
>>>>>>> Why not use a service monitor. An IFR or equivalent will cover the FM 
>>>>>>> band,   I don't know it it will modulate to 75 kHz without distorting 
>>>>>>> so you have to turn the receiver up a bit.  I don't know what size of 
>>>>>>> parking but I suggest an antenna cut to frequency  up 15 or 20 feet  or 
>>>>>>> you might try a mobile mag mount stuck to a pipe vertical. it will be 
>>>>>>> short but has a coil in the base that will extend it. Make sure it has 
>>>>>>> something metal to mount to to.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I defiantly think you need a run through with enough time for a redo.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As far as the FCC is concerned you are a pirate station and illegal.  
>>>>>>> As far as I know under part 15 you can run a low power AM transmitter 
>>>>>>> but no provisions for the FM band.  It is quite common though for 
>>>>>>> translated audio in services and such with no enforcement action if 
>>>>>>> there is no interference to anyone.  Choose your frequency by listening 
>>>>>>> carefully,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I expect a full parking lot will be different RF wise from an empty, 
>>>>>>> Get that antenna in the air, you will need the margin.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Call me if I can help, let me know how it went. Good luck and may god 
>>>>>>> bless your service..
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> John Parmalee
>>>>>>> jparma...@aol.com
>>>>>>> 281-380-3811

Re: [BVARC] Fm transmitter for Easter service

[Robert Polinski via BVARC]

Echo is caused by reflected sound, Solid walls & ceiling cause reflections, 
creating distortion. This is not as much a problem outside. Two items that 
affect audio outside are first, abundant noise, the higher the abundant noise 
you have the higher the PA audio needs to be. When you need to run high audio 
levels, the people up close it is too loud, where as the people farther away 
have a harder time separating the abundant noise from the PA audio. The place 
you set up the sound system needs to be a quiet location with low abundant 
noise, not next to a freeway, busy road or equipment. Second, try to locate the 
speakers as high as possible & as close as possible ( on a 1 story roof if 
possible ) If you spread the speakers out (unless they are widely separated) 
people located between the speakers, maybe closer to 1 than the other will 
receive a audio delay in one ear than the other, making understanding hard. ( 
sound travels slow LOL) also the PA system must have some EQ adjustment in the 
speakers mic as voice has a narrow dynamic range, too much dynamic range on a 
voice mic will amplify white noise & background audio making the voice sound 
distorted. If you locate the speakers high and away from the listener, the 2 or 
more speakers will sound more like 1. Robert 

 

From: BVARC  On Behalf Of David Hold via BVARC
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2020 12:35 PM
To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB 
Cc: David Hold 
Subject: Re: [BVARC] Fm transmitter for Easter service

 

Good luck 

Hate PA. All echo and distorted and unintelligible 

 

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 11:02 AM Martin Blaise via BVARC mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org> > wrote:

We are just going to have the pastor stand in the grass outside the church with 
an amplifier. If it is unsafe to roll down windows please let me know and I 
will contact the church and tell them not to do it. Thanks I had encouraged 
leaving parking spaces open between cars. If I am going too far on this let me 
know. Thanks. We won't have many cars there.

 

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 10:48 AM Gus Bernard via BVARC mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org> > wrote:

Great article, Jimmy - thanks!

 

Gus, KG5OFB

 

On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 6:14 PM Jimmy Vance via BVARC mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org> > wrote:

This is a good article that discusses the subject at hand

https://thepublicsradio.org/episode/theec-radio-for-churches-during-coronavirus

--jv
NA5D



On 4/8/2020 12:13 PM, SETX Telecom via BVARC wrote:

The LEGAL limit for unlicensed operation in the FM as well as other bands is in 
Part 15It is NOT based on power but a field intensity..In the FM band of 
88-108, it comes CLOSE to 100mw ERP (Effective Radiated Power) but not exact. 
Bluetooth is usually limited to 30ft. 100mw on FM MAY get you legally 300 
ftA CB radio would cover that better but then how many of the attendees 
would have CBs oin their cars?  

Multiple FM Part15 xmtrs placed in the right spots would work IF You can find 
enough clear frequencies. Then you have to get the audio to them

 




Christopher W. Boone
WB5ITT

Trustee, W5APX
Chief Engineer, iHeartMedia New Orleans



 

 

On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 12:01 PM john Parmalee via BVARC mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org> > wrote:

I have watched this thread and thought about it and an idea struck me.  Why not 
use a service monitor. An IFR or equivalent will cover the FM band,   I don't 
know it it will modulate to 75 kHz without distorting so you have to turn the 
receiver up a bit.  I don't know what size of parking but I suggest an antenna 
cut to frequency  up 15 or 20 feet  or you might try a mobile mag mount stuck 
to a pipe vertical. it will be short but has a coil in the base that will 
extend it. Make sure it has something metal to mount to to.

 

I defiantly think you need a run through with enough time for a redo.

 

As far as the FCC is concerned you are a pirate station and illegal.  As far as 
I know under part 15 you can run a low power AM transmitter but no provisions 
for the FM band.  It is quite common though for translated audio in services 
and such with no enforcement action if there is no interference to anyone.  
Choose your frequency by listening carefully, 

 

I expect a full parking lot will be different RF wise from an empty, Get that 
antenna in the air, you will need the margin.

 

Call me if I can help, let me know how it went. Good luck and may god bless 
your service..

 

John Parmalee

jparma...@aol.com <mailto:jparma...@aol.com> 

281-380-3811

K5VGM WI2XLJ

In a message dated 3/31/2020 4:45:33 PM Central Standard Time, bvarc@bvarc.org 
<mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org>  writes: 

 

Found this on Google; haven't verified with the legal code.

 

https://learnchristmaslighting.com/what-fm-transmitter-do-i-need-for-my-christmas-light-show/


 
<https://learnchristmaslighting.com/what-fm-transmitter-do-i-need-for-my-christmas-light-show/>
 What FM Transmitter Do I Need for My Christmas Light Show

Re: [BVARC] Fm transmitter for Easter service

[David Hold via BVARC]

I would try to look into a 70v multi speaker setup 

- church - may already have the amp in use for intercom 
So all u would need to do is do the speakers a few to each row of cars.

Benefits lower volume per speaker so more intelligible less echo

I am no suggesting a setup like a drive in theater 1 speaker per car

But maybe 
Row 1   2 speakers in middle facing the ends
Skip a row 
Then same on row 3 5 7 9



> On Apr 9, 2020, at 12:47 PM, Martin Blaise  wrote:
> 
> 
> Should I tell my pastor to cancel the Easter service and just tape it?
> 
>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 12:35 PM David Hold via BVARC  wrote:
>> Good luck 
>> Hate PA. All echo and distorted and unintelligible 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 11:02 AM Martin Blaise via BVARC  
>>> wrote:
>>> We are just going to have the pastor stand in the grass outside the church 
>>> with an amplifier. If it is unsafe to roll down windows please let me know 
>>> and I will contact the church and tell them not to do it. Thanks I had 
>>> encouraged leaving parking spaces open between cars. If I am going too far 
>>> on this let me know. Thanks. We won't have many cars there.
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 10:48 AM Gus Bernard via BVARC  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Great article, Jimmy - thanks!
>>>> 
>>>> Gus, KG5OFB
>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 6:14 PM Jimmy Vance via BVARC  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> This is a good article that discusses the subject at hand
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://thepublicsradio.org/episode/theec-radio-for-churches-during-coronavirus
>>>>> 
>>>>> --jv
>>>>> NA5D
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 4/8/2020 12:13 PM, SETX Telecom via BVARC wrote:
>>>>>> The LEGAL limit for unlicensed operation in the FM as well as other 
>>>>>> bands is in Part 15It is NOT based on power but a field 
>>>>>> intensity..In the FM band of 88-108, it comes CLOSE to 100mw ERP 
>>>>>> (Effective Radiated Power) but not exact. Bluetooth is usually limited 
>>>>>> to 30ft. 100mw on FM MAY get you legally 300 ftA CB radio would 
>>>>>> cover that better but then how many of the attendees would have CBs oin 
>>>>>> their cars? 
>>>>>> Multiple FM Part15 xmtrs placed in the right spots would work IF You can 
>>>>>> find enough clear frequencies. Then you have to get the audio to them
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Christopher W. Boone
>>>>>> WB5ITT
>>>>>> Trustee, W5APX
>>>>>> Chief Engineer, iHeartMedia New Orleans
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 12:01 PM john Parmalee via BVARC 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> I have watched this thread and thought about it and an idea struck me.  
>>>>>>> Why not use a service monitor. An IFR or equivalent will cover the FM 
>>>>>>> band,   I don't know it it will modulate to 75 kHz without distorting 
>>>>>>> so you have to turn the receiver up a bit.  I don't know what size of 
>>>>>>> parking but I suggest an antenna cut to frequency  up 15 or 20 feet  or 
>>>>>>> you might try a mobile mag mount stuck to a pipe vertical. it will be 
>>>>>>> short but has a coil in the base that will extend it. Make sure it has 
>>>>>>> something metal to mount to to.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I defiantly think you need a run through with enough time for a redo.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As far as the FCC is concerned you are a pirate station and illegal.  
>>>>>>> As far as I know under part 15 you can run a low power AM transmitter 
>>>>>>> but no provisions for the FM band.  It is quite common though for 
>>>>>>> translated audio in services and such with no enforcement action if 
>>>>>>> there is no interference to anyone.  Choose your frequency by listening 
>>>>>>> carefully,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I expect a full parking lot will be different RF wise from an empty, 
>>>>>>> Get that antenna in the air, you will need the margin.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Call me if I can

Re: [BVARC] Fm transmitter for Easter service

[Martin Blaise via BVARC]

Should I tell my pastor to cancel the Easter service and just tape it?

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 12:35 PM David Hold via BVARC 
wrote:

> Good luck
> Hate PA. All echo and distorted and unintelligible
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 11:02 AM Martin Blaise via BVARC 
> wrote:
>
>> We are just going to have the pastor stand in the grass outside the
>> church with an amplifier. If it is unsafe to roll down windows please let
>> me know and I will contact the church and tell them not to do it. Thanks I
>> had encouraged leaving parking spaces open between cars. If I am going too
>> far on this let me know. Thanks. We won't have many cars there.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 10:48 AM Gus Bernard via BVARC 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Great article, Jimmy - thanks!
>>>
>>> Gus, KG5OFB
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 6:14 PM Jimmy Vance via BVARC 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is a good article that discusses the subject at hand
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://thepublicsradio.org/episode/theec-radio-for-churches-during-coronavirus
>>>>
>>>> --jv
>>>> NA5D
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/8/2020 12:13 PM, SETX Telecom via BVARC wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The LEGAL limit for unlicensed operation in the FM as well as other
>>>> bands is in Part 15It is NOT based on power but a field intensity..In
>>>> the FM band of 88-108, it comes CLOSE to 100mw ERP (Effective Radiated
>>>> Power) but not exact. Bluetooth is usually limited to 30ft. 100mw on FM MAY
>>>> get you legally 300 ftA CB radio would cover that better but then how
>>>> many of the attendees would have CBs oin their cars?
>>>> Multiple FM Part15 xmtrs placed in the right spots would work IF You
>>>> can find enough clear frequencies. Then you have to get the audio to them
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Christopher W. Boone
>>>> WB5ITT
>>>> Trustee, W5APX
>>>> Chief Engineer, iHeartMedia New Orleans
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 12:01 PM john Parmalee via BVARC <
>>>> bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have watched this thread and thought about it and an idea struck
>>>>> me.  Why not use a service monitor. An IFR or equivalent will cover the FM
>>>>> band,   I don't know it it will modulate to 75 kHz without distorting so
>>>>> you have to turn the receiver up a bit.  I don't know what size of parking
>>>>> but I suggest an antenna cut to frequency  up 15 or 20 feet  or you might
>>>>> try a mobile mag mount stuck to a pipe vertical. it will be short but has 
>>>>> a
>>>>> coil in the base that will extend it. Make sure it has something metal to
>>>>> mount to to.
>>>>>
>>>>> I defiantly think you need a run through with enough time for a redo.
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as the FCC is concerned you are a pirate station and illegal.
>>>>> As far as I know under part 15 you can run a low power AM transmitter but
>>>>> no provisions for the FM band.  It is quite common though for translated
>>>>> audio in services and such with no enforcement action if there is no
>>>>> interference to anyone.  Choose your frequency by listening carefully,
>>>>>
>>>>> I expect a full parking lot will be different RF wise from an empty,
>>>>> Get that antenna in the air, you will need the margin.
>>>>>
>>>>> Call me if I can help, let me know how it went. Good luck and may god
>>>>> bless your service..
>>>>>
>>>>> John Parmalee
>>>>> jparma...@aol.com
>>>>> 281-380-3811
>>>>> K5VGM WI2XLJ
>>>>> In a message dated 3/31/2020 4:45:33 PM Central Standard Time,
>>>>> bvarc@bvarc.org writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> Found this on Google; haven't verified with the legal code.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://learnchristmaslighting.com/what-fm-transmitter-do-i-need-for-my-christmas-light-show/
>>>>> What FM Transmitter Do I Need for My Christmas Light Show? – Learn
>>>>> Christmas Lighting
>>>>> <https://learnchristmaslighting.com/what-fm-transmitter-do-i-need-for-my-christmas-light-show/>
>>>>> Okay, maybe they aren’t “turning the dial” 

Re: [BVARC] Fm transmitter for Easter service

[David Hold via BVARC]

Good luck
Hate PA. All echo and distorted and unintelligible

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 11:02 AM Martin Blaise via BVARC 
wrote:

> We are just going to have the pastor stand in the grass outside the church
> with an amplifier. If it is unsafe to roll down windows please let me know
> and I will contact the church and tell them not to do it. Thanks I had
> encouraged leaving parking spaces open between cars. If I am going too far
> on this let me know. Thanks. We won't have many cars there.
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 10:48 AM Gus Bernard via BVARC 
> wrote:
>
>> Great article, Jimmy - thanks!
>>
>> Gus, KG5OFB
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 6:14 PM Jimmy Vance via BVARC 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This is a good article that discusses the subject at hand
>>>
>>>
>>> https://thepublicsradio.org/episode/theec-radio-for-churches-during-coronavirus
>>>
>>> --jv
>>> NA5D
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/8/2020 12:13 PM, SETX Telecom via BVARC wrote:
>>>
>>> The LEGAL limit for unlicensed operation in the FM as well as other
>>> bands is in Part 15It is NOT based on power but a field intensity..In
>>> the FM band of 88-108, it comes CLOSE to 100mw ERP (Effective Radiated
>>> Power) but not exact. Bluetooth is usually limited to 30ft. 100mw on FM MAY
>>> get you legally 300 ftA CB radio would cover that better but then how
>>> many of the attendees would have CBs oin their cars?
>>> Multiple FM Part15 xmtrs placed in the right spots would work IF You can
>>> find enough clear frequencies. Then you have to get the audio to them
>>>
>>>
>>> Christopher W. Boone
>>> WB5ITT
>>> Trustee, W5APX
>>> Chief Engineer, iHeartMedia New Orleans
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 12:01 PM john Parmalee via BVARC 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have watched this thread and thought about it and an idea struck me.
>>>> Why not use a service monitor. An IFR or equivalent will cover the FM
>>>> band,   I don't know it it will modulate to 75 kHz without distorting so
>>>> you have to turn the receiver up a bit.  I don't know what size of parking
>>>> but I suggest an antenna cut to frequency  up 15 or 20 feet  or you might
>>>> try a mobile mag mount stuck to a pipe vertical. it will be short but has a
>>>> coil in the base that will extend it. Make sure it has something metal to
>>>> mount to to.
>>>>
>>>> I defiantly think you need a run through with enough time for a redo.
>>>>
>>>> As far as the FCC is concerned you are a pirate station and illegal.
>>>> As far as I know under part 15 you can run a low power AM transmitter but
>>>> no provisions for the FM band.  It is quite common though for translated
>>>> audio in services and such with no enforcement action if there is no
>>>> interference to anyone.  Choose your frequency by listening carefully,
>>>>
>>>> I expect a full parking lot will be different RF wise from an empty,
>>>> Get that antenna in the air, you will need the margin.
>>>>
>>>> Call me if I can help, let me know how it went. Good luck and may god
>>>> bless your service..
>>>>
>>>> John Parmalee
>>>> jparma...@aol.com
>>>> 281-380-3811
>>>> K5VGM WI2XLJ
>>>> In a message dated 3/31/2020 4:45:33 PM Central Standard Time,
>>>> bvarc@bvarc.org writes:
>>>>
>>>> Found this on Google; haven't verified with the legal code.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://learnchristmaslighting.com/what-fm-transmitter-do-i-need-for-my-christmas-light-show/
>>>> What FM Transmitter Do I Need for My Christmas Light Show? – Learn
>>>> Christmas Lighting
>>>> <https://learnchristmaslighting.com/what-fm-transmitter-do-i-need-for-my-christmas-light-show/>
>>>> Okay, maybe they aren’t “turning the dial” quite like the old days, but
>>>> if you want your display to be heard, you need an FM transmitter.. Even
>>>> though setting up some large PA speakers might seem like a good idea,
>>>> you’ll quickly lose the friendship of your neighbors!
>>>> learnchristmaslighting.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *From:* BVARC  on behalf of Ravi Patrick
>>>> Ratnala via BVARC 
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2020

Re: [BVARC] Fm transmitter for Easter service

[Martin Blaise via BVARC]

We are just going to have the pastor stand in the grass outside the church
with an amplifier. If it is unsafe to roll down windows please let me know
and I will contact the church and tell them not to do it. Thanks I had
encouraged leaving parking spaces open between cars. If I am going too far
on this let me know. Thanks. We won't have many cars there.

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 10:48 AM Gus Bernard via BVARC 
wrote:

> Great article, Jimmy - thanks!
>
> Gus, KG5OFB
>
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 6:14 PM Jimmy Vance via BVARC 
> wrote:
>
>> This is a good article that discusses the subject at hand
>>
>>
>> https://thepublicsradio.org/episode/theec-radio-for-churches-during-coronavirus
>>
>> --jv
>> NA5D
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/8/2020 12:13 PM, SETX Telecom via BVARC wrote:
>>
>> The LEGAL limit for unlicensed operation in the FM as well as other bands
>> is in Part 15It is NOT based on power but a field intensity..In the FM
>> band of 88-108, it comes CLOSE to 100mw ERP (Effective Radiated Power) but
>> not exact. Bluetooth is usually limited to 30ft. 100mw on FM MAY get you
>> legally 300 ftA CB radio would cover that better but then how many of
>> the attendees would have CBs oin their cars?
>> Multiple FM Part15 xmtrs placed in the right spots would work IF You can
>> find enough clear frequencies. Then you have to get the audio to them
>>
>>
>> Christopher W. Boone
>> WB5ITT
>> Trustee, W5APX
>> Chief Engineer, iHeartMedia New Orleans
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 12:01 PM john Parmalee via BVARC 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have watched this thread and thought about it and an idea struck me.
>>> Why not use a service monitor. An IFR or equivalent will cover the FM
>>> band,   I don't know it it will modulate to 75 kHz without distorting so
>>> you have to turn the receiver up a bit.  I don't know what size of parking
>>> but I suggest an antenna cut to frequency  up 15 or 20 feet  or you might
>>> try a mobile mag mount stuck to a pipe vertical. it will be short but has a
>>> coil in the base that will extend it. Make sure it has something metal to
>>> mount to to.
>>>
>>> I defiantly think you need a run through with enough time for a redo.
>>>
>>> As far as the FCC is concerned you are a pirate station and illegal.  As
>>> far as I know under part 15 you can run a low power AM transmitter but no
>>> provisions for the FM band.  It is quite common though for translated audio
>>> in services and such with no enforcement action if there is no interference
>>> to anyone.  Choose your frequency by listening carefully,
>>>
>>> I expect a full parking lot will be different RF wise from an empty, Get
>>> that antenna in the air, you will need the margin.
>>>
>>> Call me if I can help, let me know how it went. Good luck and may god
>>> bless your service..
>>>
>>> John Parmalee
>>> jparma...@aol.com
>>> 281-380-3811
>>> K5VGM WI2XLJ
>>> In a message dated 3/31/2020 4:45:33 PM Central Standard Time,
>>> bvarc@bvarc.org writes:
>>>
>>> Found this on Google; haven't verified with the legal code.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://learnchristmaslighting.com/what-fm-transmitter-do-i-need-for-my-christmas-light-show/
>>> What FM Transmitter Do I Need for My Christmas Light Show? – Learn
>>> Christmas Lighting
>>> <https://learnchristmaslighting.com/what-fm-transmitter-do-i-need-for-my-christmas-light-show/>
>>> Okay, maybe they aren’t “turning the dial” quite like the old days, but
>>> if you want your display to be heard, you need an FM transmitter.. Even
>>> though setting up some large PA speakers might seem like a good idea,
>>> you’ll quickly lose the friendship of your neighbors!
>>> learnchristmaslighting.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From:* BVARC  on behalf of Ravi Patrick
>>> Ratnala via BVARC 
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2020 4:40 PM
>>> *To:* BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB 
>>> *Cc:* Ravi Patrick Ratnala 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [BVARC] Fm transmitter for Easter service
>>>
>>> Marty,
>>>
>>> I've read the same thing - somewhere - but I can't find anything
>>> permitting it in the regs, so I don't know if it's true.  If it is, I
>>> imagine it would be for things like bluetooth devices that are designed to
>>> pump spotify from your phone through y

Re: [BVARC] Fm transmitter for Easter service

[Gus Bernard via BVARC]

Great article, Jimmy - thanks!

Gus, KG5OFB

On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 6:14 PM Jimmy Vance via BVARC 
wrote:

> This is a good article that discusses the subject at hand
>
>
> https://thepublicsradio.org/episode/theec-radio-for-churches-during-coronavirus
>
> --jv
> NA5D
>
>
>
> On 4/8/2020 12:13 PM, SETX Telecom via BVARC wrote:
>
> The LEGAL limit for unlicensed operation in the FM as well as other bands
> is in Part 15It is NOT based on power but a field intensity..In the FM
> band of 88-108, it comes CLOSE to 100mw ERP (Effective Radiated Power) but
> not exact. Bluetooth is usually limited to 30ft. 100mw on FM MAY get you
> legally 300 ftA CB radio would cover that better but then how many of
> the attendees would have CBs oin their cars?
> Multiple FM Part15 xmtrs placed in the right spots would work IF You can
> find enough clear frequencies. Then you have to get the audio to them
>
>
> Christopher W. Boone
> WB5ITT
> Trustee, W5APX
> Chief Engineer, iHeartMedia New Orleans
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 12:01 PM john Parmalee via BVARC 
> wrote:
>
>> I have watched this thread and thought about it and an idea struck me.
>> Why not use a service monitor. An IFR or equivalent will cover the FM
>> band,   I don't know it it will modulate to 75 kHz without distorting so
>> you have to turn the receiver up a bit.  I don't know what size of parking
>> but I suggest an antenna cut to frequency  up 15 or 20 feet  or you might
>> try a mobile mag mount stuck to a pipe vertical. it will be short but has a
>> coil in the base that will extend it. Make sure it has something metal to
>> mount to to.
>>
>> I defiantly think you need a run through with enough time for a redo.
>>
>> As far as the FCC is concerned you are a pirate station and illegal.  As
>> far as I know under part 15 you can run a low power AM transmitter but no
>> provisions for the FM band.  It is quite common though for translated audio
>> in services and such with no enforcement action if there is no interference
>> to anyone.  Choose your frequency by listening carefully,
>>
>> I expect a full parking lot will be different RF wise from an empty, Get
>> that antenna in the air, you will need the margin.
>>
>> Call me if I can help, let me know how it went. Good luck and may god
>> bless your service..
>>
>> John Parmalee
>> jparma...@aol.com
>> 281-380-3811
>> K5VGM WI2XLJ
>> In a message dated 3/31/2020 4:45:33 PM Central Standard Time,
>> bvarc@bvarc.org writes:
>>
>> Found this on Google; haven't verified with the legal code.
>>
>>
>> https://learnchristmaslighting.com/what-fm-transmitter-do-i-need-for-my-christmas-light-show/
>> What FM Transmitter Do I Need for My Christmas Light Show? – Learn
>> Christmas Lighting
>> <https://learnchristmaslighting.com/what-fm-transmitter-do-i-need-for-my-christmas-light-show/>
>> Okay, maybe they aren’t “turning the dial” quite like the old days, but
>> if you want your display to be heard, you need an FM transmitter.. Even
>> though setting up some large PA speakers might seem like a good idea,
>> you’ll quickly lose the friendship of your neighbors!
>> learnchristmaslighting.com
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *From:* BVARC  on behalf of Ravi Patrick
>> Ratnala via BVARC 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2020 4:40 PM
>> *To:* BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB 
>> *Cc:* Ravi Patrick Ratnala 
>> *Subject:* Re: [BVARC] Fm transmitter for Easter service
>>
>> Marty,
>>
>> I've read the same thing - somewhere - but I can't find anything
>> permitting it in the regs, so I don't know if it's true.  If it is, I
>> imagine it would be for things like bluetooth devices that are designed to
>> pump spotify from your phone through your car's radio.  If so, I'd suspect
>> that "100 feet" is a dreamy maximum, and that it would sound terrible in
>> the real-life scenario you describe.
>>
>> But as always, FleaBay to the rescue: a 6-watt FM transmitter!  For just
>> a hundred bucks, you can start your very own pirate radio station anywhere
>> on the commercial FM dial.  This thing should provide nice, punchy audio to
>> your entire church's congregation.  Very, very illegal, though.
>>
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Retekess-6W-FM-Transmitter-Stereo-Station-Antenna-Wireless-Factory-Church-Home/324108794811?hash=item4b7663:g:48UAAOSwBfhcExIJ
>>
>> How about just setting up a PA system?
>>
>> 73 de N5OL
>>
>> On 3/31/20

Re: [BVARC] Fm transmitter for Easter service

[Jimmy Vance via BVARC]

This is a good article that discusses the subject at hand

https://thepublicsradio.org/episode/theec-radio-for-churches-during-coronavirus

--jv
NA5D



On 4/8/2020 12:13 PM, SETX Telecom via BVARC wrote:
The LEGAL limit for unlicensed operation in the FM as well as other 
bands is in Part 15It is NOT based on power but a field 
intensity..In the FM band of 88-108, it comes CLOSE to 100mw ERP 
(Effective Radiated Power) but not exact. Bluetooth is usually limited 
to 30ft. 100mw on FM MAY get you legally 300 ftA CB radio would 
cover that better but then how many of the attendees would have CBs 
oin their cars?
Multiple FM Part15 xmtrs placed in the right spots would work IF You 
can find enough clear frequencies. Then you have to get the audio to them



Christopher W. Boone
WB5ITT
Trustee, W5APX
Chief Engineer, iHeartMedia New Orleans




On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 12:01 PM john Parmalee via BVARC 
mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org>> wrote:


I have watched this thread and thought about it and an idea struck
me.  Why not use a service monitor. An IFR or equivalent will
cover the FM band,   I don't know it it will modulate to 75 kHz
without distorting so you have to turn the receiver up a bit.  I
don't know what size of parking but I suggest an antenna cut to
frequency  up 15 or 20 feet  or you might try a mobile mag mount
stuck to a pipe vertical. it will be short but has a coil in the
base that will extend it. Make sure it has something metal to
mount to to.

I defiantly think you need a run through with enough time for a redo.

As far as the FCC is concerned you are a pirate station and
illegal.  As far as I know under part 15 you can run a low power
AM transmitter but no provisions for the FM band.  It is quite
common though for translated audio in services and such with no
enforcement action if there is no interference to anyone.  Choose
your frequency by listening carefully,

I expect a full parking lot will be different RF wise from an
empty, Get that antenna in the air, you will need the margin.

Call me if I can help, let me know how it went. Good luck and may
god bless your service..

John Parmalee
jparma...@aol.com <mailto:jparma...@aol.com>
281-380-3811
K5VGM WI2XLJ
In a message dated 3/31/2020 4:45:33 PM Central Standard Time,
bvarc@bvarc.org <mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org> writes:

Found this on Google; haven't verified with the legal code.


https://learnchristmaslighting.com/what-fm-transmitter-do-i-need-for-my-christmas-light-show/
What FM Transmitter Do I Need for My Christmas Light Show? –
Learn Christmas Lighting

<https://learnchristmaslighting.com/what-fm-transmitter-do-i-need-for-my-christmas-light-show/>
Okay, maybe they aren’t “turning the dial” quite like the old
days, but if you want your display to be heard, you need an FM
transmitter.. Even though setting up some large PA speakers
might seem like a good idea, you’ll quickly lose the
friendship of your neighbors!
learnchristmaslighting.com <http://learnchristmaslighting.com>





*From:* BVARC mailto:bvarc-boun...@bvarc.org>> on behalf of Ravi Patrick
Ratnala via BVARC mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org>>
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2020 4:40 PM
*To:* BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org>>
*Cc:* Ravi Patrick Ratnala mailto:ratn...@ratnalalaw.com>>
    *Subject:* Re: [BVARC] Fm transmitter for Easter service

Marty,

I've read the same thing - somewhere - but I can't find
anything permitting it in the regs, so I don't know if it's
true.  If it is, I imagine it would be for things like
bluetooth devices that are designed to pump spotify from your
phone through your car's radio.  If so, I'd suspect that "100
feet" is a dreamy maximum, and that it would sound terrible in
the real-life scenario you describe.

But as always, FleaBay to the rescue: a 6-watt FM
transmitter!  For just a hundred bucks, you can start your
very own pirate radio station anywhere on the commercial FM
dial.  This thing should provide nice, punchy audio to your
entire church's congregation.  Very, very illegal, though.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Retekess-6W-FM-Transmitter-Stereo-Station-Antenna-Wireless-Factory-Church-Home/324108794811?hash=item4b7663:g:48UAAOSwBfhcExIJ

How about just setting up a PA system?

73 de N5OL

On 3/31/2020 3:01 PM, Martin Blaise via BVARC wrote:

I read that anything 25 milliwatts or less for 100 feet is ok

On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 3:00 PM Alexander Park via BVARC
mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org&g

Re: [BVARC] Fm transmitter for Easter service

[SETX Telecom via BVARC]

The LEGAL limit for unlicensed operation in the FM as well as other bands
is in Part 15It is NOT based on power but a field intensity..In the FM
band of 88-108, it comes CLOSE to 100mw ERP (Effective Radiated Power) but
not exact. Bluetooth is usually limited to 30ft. 100mw on FM MAY get you
legally 300 ftA CB radio would cover that better but then how many of
the attendees would have CBs oin their cars?
Multiple FM Part15 xmtrs placed in the right spots would work IF You can
find enough clear frequencies. Then you have to get the audio to them


Christopher W. Boone
WB5ITT
Trustee, W5APX
Chief Engineer, iHeartMedia New Orleans




On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 12:01 PM john Parmalee via BVARC 
wrote:

> I have watched this thread and thought about it and an idea struck me.
> Why not use a service monitor. An IFR or equivalent will cover the FM
> band,   I don't know it it will modulate to 75 kHz without distorting so
> you have to turn the receiver up a bit.  I don't know what size of parking
> but I suggest an antenna cut to frequency  up 15 or 20 feet  or you might
> try a mobile mag mount stuck to a pipe vertical. it will be short but has a
> coil in the base that will extend it. Make sure it has something metal to
> mount to to.
>
> I defiantly think you need a run through with enough time for a redo.
>
> As far as the FCC is concerned you are a pirate station and illegal.  As
> far as I know under part 15 you can run a low power AM transmitter but no
> provisions for the FM band.  It is quite common though for translated audio
> in services and such with no enforcement action if there is no interference
> to anyone.  Choose your frequency by listening carefully,
>
> I expect a full parking lot will be different RF wise from an empty, Get
> that antenna in the air, you will need the margin.
>
> Call me if I can help, let me know how it went. Good luck and may god
> bless your service..
>
> John Parmalee
> jparma...@aol.com
> 281-380-3811
> K5VGM WI2XLJ
> In a message dated 3/31/2020 4:45:33 PM Central Standard Time,
> bvarc@bvarc.org writes:
>
> Found this on Google; haven't verified with the legal code.
>
>
> https://learnchristmaslighting.com/what-fm-transmitter-do-i-need-for-my-christmas-light-show/
> What FM Transmitter Do I Need for My Christmas Light Show? – Learn
> Christmas Lighting
> <https://learnchristmaslighting.com/what-fm-transmitter-do-i-need-for-my-christmas-light-show/>
> Okay, maybe they aren’t “turning the dial” quite like the old days, but if
> you want your display to be heard, you need an FM transmitter.. Even though
> setting up some large PA speakers might seem like a good idea, you’ll
> quickly lose the friendship of your neighbors!
> learnchristmaslighting.com
>
>
>
> --
> *From:* BVARC  on behalf of Ravi Patrick Ratnala
> via BVARC 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2020 4:40 PM
> *To:* BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB 
> *Cc:* Ravi Patrick Ratnala 
> *Subject:* Re: [BVARC] Fm transmitter for Easter service
>
> Marty,
>
> I've read the same thing - somewhere - but I can't find anything
> permitting it in the regs, so I don't know if it's true.  If it is, I
> imagine it would be for things like bluetooth devices that are designed to
> pump spotify from your phone through your car's radio.  If so, I'd suspect
> that "100 feet" is a dreamy maximum, and that it would sound terrible in
> the real-life scenario you describe.
>
> But as always, FleaBay to the rescue: a 6-watt FM transmitter!  For just a
> hundred bucks, you can start your very own pirate radio station anywhere on
> the commercial FM dial.  This thing should provide nice, punchy audio to
> your entire church's congregation.  Very, very illegal, though.
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Retekess-6W-FM-Transmitter-Stereo-Station-Antenna-Wireless-Factory-Church-Home/324108794811?hash=item4b7663:g:48UAAOSwBfhcExIJ
>
> How about just setting up a PA system?
>
> 73 de N5OL
>
> On 3/31/2020 3:01 PM, Martin Blaise via BVARC wrote:
>
> I read that anything 25 milliwatts or less for 100 feet is ok
>
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 3:00 PM Alexander Park via BVARC 
> wrote:
>
> I'm not sure that will be legal without an license
>
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2020, 2:09 PM Martin Blaise via BVARC 
> wrote:
>
> My church would like to do a parking lot service for Easter and my pastor
> asked me what fm transmitter we could use to broadcast the service from the
> church to the cars per social distancing. Email or call me at 713-305-2148
> thanks Marty
> 
> Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club
>
> BVARC mailing list
> BVARC@bvarc.org
> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc

Re: [BVARC] Fm transmitter for Easter service

[john Parmalee via BVARC]

I have watched this thread and thought about it and an idea struck me.  Why not 
use a service monitor. An IFR or equivalent will cover the FM band,   I don't 
know it it will modulate to 75 kHz without distorting so you have to turn the 
receiver up a bit.  I don't know what size of parking but I suggest an antenna 
cut to frequency  up 15 or 20 feet  or you might try a mobile mag mount stuck 
to a pipe vertical. it will be short but has a coil in the base that will 
extend it. Make sure it has something metal to mount to to.
 
I defiantly think you need a run through with enough time for a redo.
As far as the FCC is concerned you are a pirate station and illegal.  As far as 
I know under part 15 you can run a low power AM transmitter but no provisions 
for the FM band.  It is quite common though for translated audio in services 
and such with no enforcement action if there is no interference to anyone.  
Choose your frequency by listening carefully, 
I expect a full parking lot will be different RF wise from an empty, Get that 
antenna in the air, you will need the margin.
Call me if I can help, let me know how it went. Good luck and may god bless 
your service..
John ParmaleeJparmalee@aol.com281-380-3811
K5VGM WI2XLJIn a message dated 3/31/2020 4:45:33 PM Central Standard Time, 
bvarc@bvarc.org writes:

Found this on Google; haven't verified with the legal code.
https://learnchristmaslighting.com/what-fm-transmitter-do-i-need-for-my-christmas-light-show/
| What FM Transmitter Do I Need for My Christmas Light Show? – Learn Christmas 
LightingOkay, maybe they aren’t “turning the dial” quite like the old days, but 
if you want your display to be heard, you need an FM transmitter.. Even though 
setting up some large PA speakers might seem like a good idea, you’ll quickly 
lose the friendship of your neighbors!learnchristmaslighting.com |




From: BVARC  on behalf of Ravi Patrick Ratnala via 
BVARC 
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 4:40 PM
To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB 
Cc: Ravi Patrick Ratnala 
Subject: Re: [BVARC] Fm transmitter for Easter service
Marty,

I've read the same thing - somewhere - but I can't find anything permitting it 
in the regs, so I don't know if it's true.  If it is, I imagine it would be for 
things like bluetooth devices that are designed to pump spotify from your phone 
through your car's radio.  If so, I'd suspect that "100 feet" is a dreamy 
maximum, and that it would sound terrible in the real-life scenario you 
describe.

But as always, FleaBay to the rescue: a 6-watt FM transmitter!  For just a 
hundred bucks, you can start your very own pirate radio station anywhere on the 
commercial FM dial.  This thing should provide nice, punchy audio to your 
entire church's congregation.  Very, very illegal, though.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Retekess-6W-FM-Transmitter-Stereo-Station-Antenna-Wireless-Factory-Church-Home/324108794811?hash=item4b7663:g:48UAAOSwBfhcExIJ

How about just setting up a PA system?

73 de N5OL

On 3/31/2020 3:01 PM, Martin Blaise via BVARC wrote:
I read that anything 25 milliwatts or less for 100 feet is ok
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 3:00 PM Alexander Park via BVARC  
wrote:
I'm not sure that will be legal without an license

On Tue, Mar 31, 2020, 2:09 PM Martin Blaise via BVARC  wrote:
My church would like to do a parking lot service for Easter and my pastor asked 
me what fm transmitter we could use to broadcast the service from the church to 
the cars per social distancing. Email or call me at 713-305-2148 thanks Marty

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Re: [BVARC] Fm transmitter for Easter service

[Jeff Greer via BVARC]

Found this on Google; haven't verified with the legal code.

https://learnchristmaslighting.com/what-fm-transmitter-do-i-need-for-my-christmas-light-show/
What FM Transmitter Do I Need for My Christmas Light Show? – Learn Christmas 
Lighting<https://learnchristmaslighting.com/what-fm-transmitter-do-i-need-for-my-christmas-light-show/>
Okay, maybe they aren’t “turning the dial” quite like the old days, but if you 
want your display to be heard, you need an FM transmitter.. Even though setting 
up some large PA speakers might seem like a good idea, you’ll quickly lose the 
friendship of your neighbors!
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Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 4:40 PM
To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB 
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Subject: Re: [BVARC] Fm transmitter for Easter service

Marty,

I've read the same thing - somewhere - but I can't find anything permitting it 
in the regs, so I don't know if it's true.  If it is, I imagine it would be for 
things like bluetooth devices that are designed to pump spotify from your phone 
through your car's radio.  If so, I'd suspect that "100 feet" is a dreamy 
maximum, and that it would sound terrible in the real-life scenario you 
describe.

But as always, FleaBay to the rescue: a 6-watt FM transmitter!  For just a 
hundred bucks, you can start your very own pirate radio station anywhere on the 
commercial FM dial.  This thing should provide nice, punchy audio to your 
entire church's congregation.  Very, very illegal, though.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Retekess-6W-FM-Transmitter-Stereo-Station-Antenna-Wireless-Factory-Church-Home/324108794811?hash=item4b7663:g:48UAAOSwBfhcExIJ

How about just setting up a PA system?

73 de N5OL

On 3/31/2020 3:01 PM, Martin Blaise via BVARC wrote:
I read that anything 25 milliwatts or less for 100 feet is ok

On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 3:00 PM Alexander Park via BVARC 
mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org>> wrote:
I'm not sure that will be legal without an license

On Tue, Mar 31, 2020, 2:09 PM Martin Blaise via BVARC 
mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org>> wrote:
My church would like to do a parking lot service for Easter and my pastor asked 
me what fm transmitter we could use to broadcast the service from the church to 
the cars per social distancing. Email or call me at 713-305-2148 thanks Marty

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Re: [BVARC] Fm transmitter for Easter service

[Ravi Patrick Ratnala via BVARC]

  
  
Marty,

I've read the same thing - somewhere - but I can't find anything
permitting it in the regs, so I don't know if it's true.  If it is,
I imagine it would be for things like bluetooth devices that are
designed to pump spotify from your phone through your car's radio. 
If so, I'd suspect that "100 feet" is a dreamy maximum, and that it
would sound terrible in the real-life scenario you describe.

But as always, FleaBay to the rescue: a 6-watt FM transmitter!  For
just a hundred bucks, you can start your very own pirate radio
station anywhere on the commercial FM dial.  This thing should
provide nice, punchy audio to your entire church's congregation. 
Very, very illegal, though.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Retekess-6W-FM-Transmitter-Stereo-Station-Antenna-Wireless-Factory-Church-Home/324108794811?hash=item4b7663:g:48UAAOSwBfhcExIJ

How about just setting up a PA system?

73 de N5OL

On 3/31/2020 3:01 PM, Martin Blaise via
  BVARC wrote:


  
  
I read that anything 25 milliwatts or less for
  100 feet is ok
  
  

  On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 3:00
PM Alexander Park via BVARC 
wrote:
  
  
I'm not sure that will be legal without an
  license 


  On Tue, Mar 31, 2020,
2:09 PM Martin Blaise via BVARC  wrote:
  
  
My church would like to do a parking lot
  service for Easter and my pastor asked me what fm
  transmitter we could use to broadcast the service from
  the church to the cars per social distancing. Email or
  call me at 713-305-2148 thanks Marty 

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Re: [BVARC] Fm transmitter for Easter service

[Alexander Park via BVARC]

I'm not sure that will be legal without an license

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wrote:

> My church would like to do a parking lot service for Easter and my pastor
> asked me what fm transmitter we could use to broadcast the service from the
> church to the cars per social distancing. Email or call me at 713-305-2148
> thanks Marty
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[BVARC] Fm transmitter for Easter service

[Martin Blaise via BVARC]

My church would like to do a parking lot service for Easter and my pastor
asked me what fm transmitter we could use to broadcast the service from the
church to the cars per social distancing. Email or call me at 713-305-2148
thanks Marty

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