Re: [Cake] [Cerowrt-devel] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-le-phb-06 is in last call

2019-08-22 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Wed, 21 Aug 2019, Dave Taht wrote: Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant writes: Maybe attached patch is more comprehensive? Yep! why was diffserv8 5 in the first place? "diffserve8 is 5"? I don't understand. Do you mean 001000? https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3662 3.2. PHB configuration

Re: [Cake] [Cerowrt-devel] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-le-phb-06 is in last call

2019-08-21 Thread Dave Taht
Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant writes: > Maybe attached patch is more comprehensive? Yep! why was diffserv8 5 in the first place? > > KDB > >> On 21 Aug 2019, at 16:07, Dave Taht wrote: >> >> Just ressurrecting this old thread for review now that this is an >> official RFC. I note also that the NQB

Re: [Cake] [Cerowrt-devel] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-le-phb-06 is in last call

2019-02-04 Thread Dave Taht
On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 2:34 AM Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > > On Mon, 4 Feb 2019, Dave Taht wrote: > > >> The problem with CAKE/FQ and background traffic is that it can't tell if > >> there is congestion or not, and things like LEDBAT can't backoff and try > >> to avoid causing congestion. So your

Re: [Cake] [Cerowrt-devel] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-le-phb-06 is in last call

2019-02-04 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Mon, 4 Feb 2019, Dave Taht wrote: The problem with CAKE/FQ and background traffic is that it can't tell if there is congestion or not, and things like LEDBAT can't backoff and try to avoid causing congestion. So your previous email about allowing some congestion to take place on LE would be

Re: [Cake] [Cerowrt-devel] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-le-phb-06 is in last call

2019-02-04 Thread Dave Taht
On Sun, Feb 3, 2019 at 11:11 PM Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > > On Sun, 3 Feb 2019, Dave Taht wrote: > > > Well, (I just checked, let me know if you want the captures) comcast > > still re-marks all codepoints it does not recognize, to become CS1, > > including this one. So the smartest thing a

Re: [Cake] [Cerowrt-devel] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-le-phb-06 is in last call

2019-02-03 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Sun, 3 Feb 2019, Dave Taht wrote: Well, (I just checked, let me know if you want the captures) comcast still re-marks all codepoints it does not recognize, to become CS1, including this one. So the smartest thing a comcast customer can do is wash it out on entrance to their domain. If I

Re: [Cake] [Cerowrt-devel] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-le-phb-06 is in last call

2019-02-03 Thread Dave Taht
Mikael Abrahamsson writes: > On Sun, 3 Feb 2019, David P. Reed wrote: > >> This fairy story about traffic giving way to higher priority traffic >> being a normal mode of operation is just that. A made up story, >> largely used by folks who want to do selective pricing based on what >> customers

Re: [Cake] [Cerowrt-devel] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-le-phb-06 is in last call

2019-02-03 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Sun, 3 Feb 2019, David P. Reed wrote: This fairy story about traffic giving way to higher priority traffic being a normal mode of operation is just that. A made up story, largely used by folks who want to do selective pricing based on what customers are willing to pay, not on value

Re: [Cake] [Cerowrt-devel] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-le-phb-06 is in last call

2019-02-03 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 4 Feb, 2019, at 12:42 am, David P. Reed wrote: > > This fairy story about traffic giving way to higher priority traffic being a > normal mode of operation is just that. A made up story, largely used by folks > who want to do selective pricing based on what customers are willing to pay, >

Re: [Cake] [Cerowrt-devel] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-le-phb-06 is in last call

2019-02-03 Thread Dave Taht
On Sun, Feb 3, 2019 at 2:42 PM David P. Reed wrote: > > Well, you all know that I think of diffserv as an abortion. It's based on > thinking that assumes central, hierachical adminstrative agreements among > what should be autonomous systems. I too think diffserv is terrible. On the other

Re: [Cake] [Cerowrt-devel] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-le-phb-06 is in last call

2019-02-03 Thread David P. Reed
Well, you all know that I think of diffserv as an abortion. It's based on thinking that assumes central, hierachical adminstrative agreements among what should be autonomous systems. Yeah, at layer 2 for packets that stay within an administratively uniform domain, diffserv can be useful. But

Re: [Cake] [Cerowrt-devel] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-le-phb-06 is in last call

2019-02-03 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 3 Feb, 2019, at 8:39 pm, Dave Taht wrote: > > it's 01 which I guess is: > > diff --git a/sch_cake.c b/sch_cake.c > index 3a26db0..67263b3 100644 > --- a/sch_cake.c > +++ b/sch_cake.c > @@ -343,7 +343,7 @@ static const u8 diffserv4[] = { > }; > > static const u8 diffserv3[] = { > -