Re: [Cake] bufferbloat still misunderstood & ignored

2018-03-28 Thread Dave Taht
I so wish that the network nuetrality debate included discussions such as these. On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 5:53 PM, Jonathan Morton wrote: >> On 29 Mar, 2018, at 3:26 am, Dave Taht wrote: >> >> A finicky bit would be who to penalize when the underlying

Re: [Cake] bufferbloat still misunderstood & ignored

2018-03-28 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 29 Mar, 2018, at 3:26 am, Dave Taht wrote: > > A finicky bit would be who to penalize when the underlying medium > (shared cable) is oversubscribed. Two obvious reasonable solutions: share equally per subscriber, or share proportionately to provisioned bandwidth per

Re: [Cake] bufferbloat still misunderstood & ignored

2018-03-28 Thread Dave Taht
On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 5:04 PM, Jonathan Morton wrote: >> On 28 Mar, 2018, at 10:32 pm, Dave Taht wrote: >> >> The two line method is quite common among gamers. > > I'm pretty sure a single A ADSL connection costs less than two from a >

Re: [Cake] bufferbloat still misunderstood & ignored

2018-03-28 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 28 Mar, 2018, at 10:32 pm, Dave Taht wrote: > > The two line method is quite common among gamers. I'm pretty sure a single A ADSL connection costs less than two from a bargain-basement ISP, what with line rental factoring into the total price. Of course, not

[Cake] gcc 7.3.1 issue on arch

2018-03-28 Thread Bret Towe
for anyone seeing a compile error like the below on Arch Linux CC [M] /root/sch_cake/sch_cake.o In file included from ./include/linux/list.h:9:0, from ./include/linux/module.h:9, from /root/sch_cake/sch_cake.c:42: ./include/linux/kernel.h:6:10: fatal error:

Re: [Cake] bufferbloat still misunderstood & ignored

2018-03-28 Thread Dave Taht
The two line method is quite common among gamers. ___ Cake mailing list Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake

Re: [Cake] bufferbloat still misunderstood & ignored

2018-03-28 Thread Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant via Cake writes: > From: Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant > Subject: bufferbloat still misunderstood & ignored > To: Cake List > Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 15:46:47 + > >

[Cake] bufferbloat still misunderstood & ignored

2018-03-28 Thread Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant via Cake
--- Begin Message --- http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/talktalk/t/4587923-sensible-discussion-with-talktalk-about-bufferbloat.html The thing that bothers me more than anything….. the first reply comes from a staff member of ‘thinkbroadband’. Cheers, Kevin D-B 012C ACB2 28C6 C53E 9775 9123