Great advice, thank you Jerome! I'll think more on that, for sure. On Nov 16, 2017 11:38 AM, "Jerome Grisanti" <jerome.grisa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Angela, > > Square dance callers do these substitutions as well. > > One very basic exercise for Modern Western Square Dance callers is to > develop sequences (2, 3, 4 or more) moves that get dancers to the zero box, > which is most easily visualized by having head couples move forward one > step, then turning away from your partner and facing your corner. > > Add in sequences to rotate the square halfway, 1/4 or 3/4, use symmetrical > calls, and sets can easily be scrambled and then resolved using plug-in > sequences to "find your corner, allemande left, etc." > > Back to contra: > > Although one might consult an existing database, I think it's probably > more useful to develop ones own mental database by sitting down and writing > sequences for each situation. (In the case of contra, neutral (8-count and > 16-count sequences), men change (8- and 16-count), women change (8- and > 16-count), couples change (8- and 16-count)). Yes, you will likely develop > a list with much overlap with other callers, but I believe the exercise is > worth it. And you may come up with some unique, or at least rarely used, > combinations. > > Good luck! > > --Jerome > > > Jerome Grisanti > 660-528-0858 <(660)%20528-0858> > http://www.jeromegrisanti.com > > "Whatever you do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius and > power and magic in it." --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe > > On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Angela DeCarlis via Callers < > callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > >> Look at Cary Ravitz's web page on contra dance choreography ( >>> http://www.dance.ravitz.us/chor.php), especially the section on what he >>> calls black boxes. http://www.dance.ravitz.us/chor.php#m I think that >>> is exactly what you are asking about. He did a useful workshop on that >>> subject at Pigtown Fling a few years ago. >>> >>> David Harding >>> >> >> Thank you so much David! I think this is exactly the kind of information >> I'm looking for, but I'm finding the format which Cary has everything set >> in pretty difficult to digest. I'll have to set aside some time to parse >> the information in a way that makes more sense to me. >> >> Anyone else have any leads? >> >> Thanks! >> Angela >> >> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 1:00 PM, DAVID HARDING <dharding...@comcast.net> >> wrote: >> >>> Look at Cary Ravitz's web page on contra dance choreography ( >>> http://www.dance.ravitz.us/chor.php), especially the section on what he >>> calls black boxes. http://www.dance.ravitz.us/chor.php#m I think that >>> is exactly what you are asking about. He did a useful workshop on that >>> subject at Pigtown Fling a few years ago. >>> >>> David Harding >>> >>> On November 15, 2017 at 11:39 AM Angela DeCarlis via Callers < >>> callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: >>> >>> Hello all, >>> >>> I'm remembering a few workshops I'd taken with Rick Mohr a few years >>> ago, and also an occasion where I collected a dance from his calling. He >>> happily gave me the name and author of the dance, but was also quick to >>> note that he had substituted out different moves for 16 counts of the >>> dance, so that it would work better with his evening's program. >>> >>> Now, someone like Rick can just do this in his head. He has a data base >>> of common combinations of dance moves, and where everyone ends up after >>> executing them. As such, he can easily make substitutions on the fly, >>> because he knows offhand that A+B=X+Y.** >>> >>> What I'm wondering is, has anyone bothered to write down and compile a >>> list of common choreography substitutions? I'm thinking a spreadsheet of >>> some sort, where we think about the net product of various combinations of >>> dance moves, and categorize the combinations based on their output. >>> >>> For example: Neighbor Promenade across, Ladies Chain = Long Lines >>> Forward and Back, Gents Allemande L 11/2. >>> >>> If no one has already done this, I'll start a new thread where we can >>> begin to collaboratively write one up! >>> >>> Thanks, All! >>> Angela >>> >>> >>> **Yes, the momentum in each of these scenarios is probably different, >>> and one might be better than another. But this depends on the rest of the >>> dance's choreography, and for these purposes I don't especially care. :) >>> >>> ***Also worth acknowledging that substituting out an entire 16-count >>> phrase could easily result in calling a different dance written by a >>> different author, but I'm more concerned about using this technique for >>> practical programming purposes. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> List Name: Callers mailing list >>> List Address: Callers@lists.sharedweight.net >>> Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/callers@lists.sharedweight.net/ >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> List Name: Callers mailing list >> List Address: Callers@lists.sharedweight.net >> Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/callers@lists.sharedweight.net/ >> >> >
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