Re: [Callers] here it is - sorry

Hello Ron: You wrote:  "My post said I found 3 points "interesting", and listed the three points.  I didn't even link the article on Shared Weight in the first place."     Is it bizarre for readers of this thread to assume you listed the three points because you approved or agreed with them?

Re: [Callers] here it is - sorry

Ron:   You wrote:  "I don't want to cause anyone pain, intended or not."    Do you see anything bizarre in not wanting to cause anyone intended pain? You wrote:  "If you are a World War II survivor, please contact me privately and I will apologize to you if I've caused you pain."One speculates

Re: [Callers] here it is - sorry

Hello Ron: Your statement  "we're comparing our having fun traveling to various dances to the widespread persecution of an ethnicity (the worst being the Holocaust)." was an intentional, malicious, misguided   personal attack on every contradancer who speaks the words "dance gypsy," who uses the

Re: [Callers] New Dance: For He's A Jolly Good Fellow

(Corrected)Hmmm...   (a)  Exactly what do you mean  by "Petronella?"(b)   Exactly what do you mean by "Give and Take?" Michael Fuerst      802 N Broadway      Urbana IL 61801  217 239 5844 On Tuesday, March 29, 2016 1:38 AM, Michael Barraclough via Callers

Re: [Callers] New Dance: For He's A Jolly Good Fellow

Hmmm...   (a)  Exactly what do you mean  by "Petronella?"(b) Exactly what hat do you mean by "Give and Take?" Michael Fuerst      802 N Broadway      Urbana IL 61801  217 239 5844 On Tuesday, March 29, 2016 1:39 AM, Michael Barraclough via Callers

Re: [Callers] New dance?

One could name a dance about whatever one wants However, here's one from the book Midwest Folklore published by the Urbana Country Dancers in 1995    https://store.cdss.org/product/178-midwest-folklore-and-other-dances Colonel North's Contra Insurgencyby Erna-Lynne Bogue A1 N's dsdStart grand R

Re: [Callers] Young Adult Rose

The incident that actually ignited the French Revolution was a group of dancers at a public dance in Paris  who insisted on a left allemande, despite the caller's pleas for a right allemande--much more mundane than the incident at Fort Sumter which ignited the United States' Civil War, or the

[Callers] Young Adult Rose

May this be your biggest disappointment in life.  :) (Allemande left works much  better, because it gives dancers a better direction for starting  the swing.When calling the dance on a Saturday I probably use left shoulder gypsy instead of the allemande.) Michael Fuerst      802 N Broadway  

Re: [Callers] Rates for private events (weddings etc)?

Central Illinois where I live?  $35-50, although our local callers would probably do such for free.NYC?  $2000, but  $3000 if on a weekend Michael Fuerst      802 N Broadway      Urbana IL 61801  217 239 5844 On Saturday, March 26, 2016 1:13 PM, Maia McCormick via Callers

[Callers] A dance of mine to try

One Shy of Twenty                        Feb 1998               Becket Counterclockwise                         Intermediate-Advanced A1      Long lines forward and back, roll away on the way back         Circle right 3/4, pass neighbor by left shoulder A2      Do-si-do a second neighbor 1 1/2 to

Re: [Callers] Easy petronella with long lines

Or the men could allemande right in A1 followed by a partner gypsy and swing in A2 Michael Fuerst 802 N Broadway Urbana IL 61801 217 239 5844 Links to photos of many of my drawings and paintings are at www.ArtComesFuerst.com

Re: [Callers] another new word idea

Are you also contemplating  to abandon the awkward to say "California Twirl"If you use your gypsy alternative for new dancers, will you advise them of all the synonyms being conjured ? Michael Fuerst      802 N Broadway      Urbana IL 61801  217 239 5844 On Wednesday, January 27, 2016

Re: [Callers] New word idea

More  candidates exist to replace "gypsy" than the Republicans have  to succeed the current U.S. president.Although both the current president and "gypsy" are performing quite well,  "gypsy" is not constrained by term limits Michael Fuerst      802 N Broadway      Urbana IL 61801  217 239

Re: [Callers] Run its course?

During a contra dance, the eighth beat of music indicates to the participants when to exit from the circular gypsy figure.  The ongoing discussion lacks such luxury Michael Fuerst      802 N Broadway      Urbana IL 61801  217 239 5844 On Friday, January 22, 2016 11:50 AM, Seth Seeger

Re: [Callers] As in Petronella

M, Alan Winston via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: I use "Mad Robin" because that's what people use around here, but I kinda like "sliding doors" for the figure. -- Alan On 12/15/15 10:20 PM, Michael Fuerst via Callers wrote: Movements are

Re: [Callers] As in Petronella

Wednesday, December 16, 2015 1:57 AM, Colin Hume via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 06:20:58 +0000 (UTC), Michael Fuerst via Callers wrote: > "Mad Robin" became part of contra in the last ten years or so.  > Unless someone comes up with mor

Re: [Callers] As in Petronella

and avoid the unnecessary jargon There is no compelling reason to stop using gypsy.  Michael Fuerst      802 N Broadway      Urbana IL 61801  217 239 5844Links to photos of many of my drawings and paintings are at www.ArtComesFuerst.com On Tuesday, December 15, 2015 8:54 PM, Aahz Maruch v

Re: [Callers] As in Petronella

"Balance and spin" has the same number of syllables as "Petronella"  and avoids unnecessary jargon Michael Fuerst      802 N Broadway      Urbana IL 61801  217 239 5844 On Tuesday, December 15, 2015 1:35 PM, Ron Blechner via Callers wrote: Many

Re: [Callers] Becket Formation

Or maybe they were confusing Becket with gypsy Michael Fuerst      802 N Broadway      Urbana IL 61801  217 239 5844 On Thursday, December 10, 2015 2:20 PM, Bill Olson via Callers wrote: #yiv5709207139 #yiv5709207139 --.yiv5709207139hmmessage

[Callers] Woodrow Wilson never gypsied

Dont erase Woodrow Wilson. Expose him. |   | |   | |   |   |   |   |   | | Dont erase Woodrow Wilson. Expose him.Woodrow Wilson was a visionary statesman and, at the same time, a racist with repugnant ideas. (Photo: Hulton Archive/Getty Images) | | | | View on www.yahoo.com | Preview by Yahoo

Re: [Callers] Dances with R & L Thru

Here are several of my dances that qualify. George's Neat Reel Becket Counterclockwise August, 1999 Video link: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1564652206411 (One may have to be logged into Facebook to view the video) A1 Promenade across Hands across left

Re: [Callers] Progressive politics? Ha, ha

<callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: On Wed, Oct 28, 2015, Michael Fuerst via Callers wrote: > > I have been contra dancing for 30 years or so and this is the first > time I've encountered a question about "gypsy" being controversial. > The people who c

Re: [Callers] Advice about "gypsy"

The use of gypsy as  a contra dance term is almost as  offensive as a contra dance containing a shadow swing. (JUST KIDDING) I would suggest a response of the following nature: Hello ___ As you noted,   (i)   you were  impressed by the friendliness of the dancers, the quality of the

Re: [Callers] Advice about "gypsy"

7 Of The Most Ridiculous Cries Of Racism Ever Made |   | |   | |   |   |   |   |   | | 7 Of The Most Ridiculous Cries Of Racism Ever MadeIf you just assume EVERY cry of "racism" in politics is illegitimate, you'll only occasionally be wrong. | | | | View on townhall.com | Preview by Yahoo |

Re: [Callers] Seeking contras for a crowded hall

Be wary of any motion that requires all dancers to be in the center at the same time.  Consider dances where first two persons swing in the center, and then the other two swing in the center A few of my dances that would   work E.J.M.J.F. in Cincinnati Improper

Re: [Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance

I would suggest teaching the end of A1 and the beginning of A2 by telling dancers to hey, N's starting right shoulder until facing neighbor on other side, having them pause at that point. Then ask dancers to pass N by right, immediately turn right and step towards a next neighbor. The dance

[Callers] Shadow swings and the Dance Deity

Concerning dances with shadow swings, Chris Page has noted, "I know Carol Ormand writes and calls them."Because of her advanced scientific training, Carol is undoubtedly certified to handle hazardous material. For most of the day and evening I've been praying to the Dance Deity about the

Re: [Callers] Text size problem

One person suggested 2 and 5 (the medium fonts) were ok, another said only 3 and 6 (the large fonts) A third person suggested I try plain text, rather than HTML. This message is in plain text. How does it look and compare to the options in my previous email? Michael Fuerst 802 N

[Callers] Text size problem

Two persons have lamented privately to me that my posts are reaching the group with almost unreadably small text.No where else I send email or post has reported this problem Which, if any  of these lines better? 1. Garamond small 2.  Garamond medium3. Garamond large 4 Modern small5 Modern

Re: [Callers] Shadow Swing Disclaimers?

The substitution examples you gave are rarely critical to a dance's flow.   Swings are more likely to be.     If a dance written with a shadow swing flows well with something else, the the dance should always be called with the something else.    Michael Fuerst      802 N Broadway      Urbana

Re: [Callers] shadow swings

David:    Really, would you ever call a dance with a shadow swing?     None of our most respected caller (those who are invited as the featured caller at various weekends)   never (or darned close to never).I don't ever  recall attending a weekend  when the featured caller used a shadow swing. 

Re: [Callers] Shadow Swing Disclaimers?

Eric:    Not all dancers enjoy dancing or skilled enough to dance both roles.   Dancers should not have to resort to such subterfuge to avoid unpleasantness perpetrated by an insensitive caller. Michael Fuerst      802 N Broadway       Urbana IL 61801  217 239 5844 On Wednesday,

Re: [Callers] Shadow Swing Disclaimers?

Richard:   Your suggestion is subterfuge to rationalize the caller's doing something (calling a shadow swing dance) that should never be done. Michael Fuerst      802 N Broadway      Urbana IL 61801  217 239 5844 On Wednesday, September 9, 2015 3:45 PM, Richard Fischer via Callers

Re: [Callers] Fw: Shadow Swing Disclaimers?

Aahz wrote:  "Regardless of the seriousness with which you view "forcing" a shadow swing, it is clear that many other people disagree, "A better assessment is that a vocal and, in the opinion of many, insensitive minority disagree. Shadow swings are insurmountably problemsome,  because they can

Re: [Callers] Ferry Boat Contra Ideas

dance and the author will often set thoughts to dancing, along with our feet. Karin On 7/13/2015 12:30 AM, Michael Fuerst via Callers wrote: Choosing dances with names matching a characteristic of the dance event or venue may give the caller a intellectual satisfaction, but makes little diff

Re: [Callers] Ferry Boat Contra Ideas

Choosing dances with names matching a characteristic of the dance event or venue may give the caller a intellectual satisfaction, but makes little difference to the dancers.   An exception would be a dance written for a birthday or wedding or similar celebration. Michael Fuerst      802 N

[Callers] Petronella and Rory O'More

I recently attended a dance weekend where the excellent callers, while teaching dances, used the phrases ".. as in Rory O'More" and ".. as in Petronella"Many of the dancers in attendance probably have never danced either Petronella  or Rory O'MoreThe movements implied by these terms can be

[Callers] What Dancers Need to Know and Gender Free Calling

So, what do dancers need to know in order to progress through a duple contra dance? (1) At the end of a swing, who finishes on which side. Thus we need some words and concept of these two roles, whether  men and women, larks and ravens, or P's and Q's.  (This seems  really important when

Re: [Callers] Another approach to Gender Free calling

Aahz suggested Purrple and Green. I think Aahz should be minding P's and Q's rather than P's and G's  Michael Fuerst      802 N Broadway      Urbana IL 61801  217 239 5844 "Whenever Dan Savage and Miss Manners agree, take their advice!" --Sigrid Ellis

Re: [Callers] Another approach to Gender Free calling

How can one simply, consistently  and clearly designate two persons to participate in an allemande ? Michael Fuerst      802 N Broadway      Urbana IL 61801  217 239 5844 On Monday, June 1, 2015 5:41 PM, Ron Blechner via Callers wrote: RE:

Re: [Callers] Jets / rubies genderfree terms redux: gems?

If a our group of like minded people can't agree on terms to use when teaching relatively straightforward dances, can  we expect a nation to agree on such trivial issues like  use of force by police, national health insurance, income distribution, and money's influence in elections ?? Michael

Re: [Callers] Itty-bitty dances, triplets, odd numbers

back at any point. Is your partner in the opposite line from you or in the same line? Sent from Outlook _____________ From: Michael Fuerst via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2015 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [Callers] Itty-bitty dances, triplets, odd numb

Re: [Callers] Itty-bitty dances, triplets, odd numbers

Also, Rick Mohr has two excellent triplets:    http://rickmohr.net/Contra/DancesByType.asp#Introduction   Michael Fuerst       802 N Broadway      Urbana IL 61801  217 239 5844 On Sunday, May 3, 2015 3:20 PM, Michael Fuerst via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net>

Re: [Callers] Itty-bitty dances, triplets, odd numbers

A four  couple contra I call sometimes is "Vet's Revenge"  by Colin Hume  Duple Improper A1  Neighbor couples (1's with 2's, 3's with 4's)  star left        Middle couples (2's with 3's) star rightA2   Neighbor couples allemande left 1 1/2         Women chain to partnerB1    All four couples

Re: [Callers] Anyone seen this dance?

n 4/29/2015 9:53 PM, Winston, Alan P. via Callers wrote: "Dancing Near Amy". -- Alan On 4/29/2015 5:34 PM, Erik Erhardt via Callers wrote: Or "Dancing with Amy Olmos" Erik (505)480-4462  StatAcumen.com/dance On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Michael Fu

Re: [Callers] Anyone seen this dance?

Then it should be named "Almost Dancing With Amy" Michael Fuerst      802 N Broadway      Urbana IL 61801  217 239 5844 On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 7:29 PM, Linda Leslie via Callers wrote: Very close to Dancing with Amy, by Bill Olson.Linda On

Re: [Callers] How Would You Teach This Hey?

I would describe this dance as follows, and just emphasize to the dancers that all of  A2 must be done in the 16 counts of the second part of the dance, and let them work out the precise timing.  A1  N's B A2  Circle left 1/2       W lead partner to zig left, pass current Ns,  and slide right

Re: [Callers] How Would You Teach This Hey?

I   can't understand the dance as described. Michael Fuerst      802 N Broadway      Urbana IL 61801  217 239 5844 On Sunday, March 29, 2015 4:53 PM, Don Veino via Callers wrote: Another recent composition (thanks to Luke for getting me thinking

Re: [Callers] New vs. Variation

Actually all three dances from my previous message contain  the 32 count sequence         Circle left, neighbors swing;  women chain over and back and also       Partners swing in center, end facing new neighbors and also the 16 count sequence      Do-si-do across once and a quarter to form one

Re: [Callers] New vs. Variation

Which of these improper dances  are the "same" ? All contain         the 32 count sequence:  Circle left, neighbors swing;  women chain over and back and also       Partners swing in center, end facing new neighbors and also      Do-si-do across once and a quarter to form one long way

Re: [Callers] Giant dance database?

Actually a global contra dance database seems like a bad idea.   Who will decide what dances merit placement in the database? A much better idea is for CDSS to maintain a web page with either  copies of web page(s) with authors' dances, somewhat like Cary Ravitz now does:  

[Callers] This might provide insight on how to teach....

.. dancers the repeating sequence of a contra dance  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABuKR0hUdu8     Michael Fuerst      802 N Broadway      Urbana IL 61801   217-239-5844___ Callers mailing list Callers@lists.sharedweight.net

[Callers] Why is teaching a repeating 30-32 second sequences of relatively simple dance moves so complicated?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWK5bzWkiuE     Michael Fuerst      802 N Broadway      Urbana IL 61801   217-239-5844 Links to photos of many of my drawings and paintings are at www.ArtComesFuerst.com___ Callers mailing list