Hi Don,

              Alan said most of it already.

 

              You could potentially use any of Gate, Wheel, Wheel Around, 
Assisted Cast, Hand Cast, Hand Cast Off, Turn as a Couple!

 

              From Zesty Contras:

Hand Cast Off: Often shortened to “hand cast”, even though it is assisted.  
Dancers, hand in hand and with strong connection, follow the same path as in 
any conventional cast off.

Cast Off: As described in B&S. Note that two couples always participate, 
usually with connection between them.  In CAST AROUND, by contrast, those 
casting do not have connection with another couple and any movement by another 
couple is usually stated explicitly.

 

>From B&S (Balance and Swing by Ted Sannella):

CAST OFF: In a contra or triplet, a method of progression which can be danced 
in several ways. Most commonly, an active couple come up the center of the set 
until they are between the appropriate inactive couple and all four dancers 
face up. Each active dancer and the adjacent inactive dancer turn side by side 
three-quarters round, with the active dancer moving forward and the inactive 
dancer moving backward, until both dancers are in a line facing in, the active 
couple now below the inactives.  In an ARM-AROUND CAST OFF two dancers place 
their near arms around each other’s waists during the turn and in a HAND CAST 
OFF two dancers join near hands at shoulder height with elbows down. Either of 
these casts may also be referred to as an ASSISTED CAST OFF.

 

              We also have an Assisted Cast Off wherein the inactives put their 
hand on their hip and offer their elbow for the active to hook onto; this is 
more common in dances with a Gallop where there is a lot of momentum to 
redirect.

 

              You also could use “Wheel”, which B&S defines as “The same as 
TURN AS A COUPLE”.

TURN AS A COUPLE: A pair of dancers with nearest hands joined reverse direction 
by rotating as a unit, with the right hand person moving forward as the left 
hand person backs around. This movement is usually done in four counts of 
music. In a popular variation some dancers prefer to turn as a couple by having 
the lady go under their upraised joined hands as both dancers move forward.  
<<That is, of course, now much more common and known as a California Twirl!>>

 

              We tend to say “Wheel Around” rather than just “Wheel” these 
days, and indeed Modern Western Square Dance defines: 

Wheel Around

Dance action: The couple, working as a unit, turns around to the left (180 
degrees). The left-side dancer backs up while the right-side dancer moves 
forward. The pivot point is the handhold between the two dancers.

 

              MWSD also has:

Cast Off 3/4

>From a General Line, each half of the line works together: ... those in a 
>Couple turn, as a unit, away from the center of the line for 3/4 of a circle 
>(270 degrees).

 

              Historically, Wilson (1820) used Cast Off where we, today, would 
now just say Cast, to get the #1s to turn up and out and head down the outside 
of the set.

 

              But, ignoring Wilson, I would suggest that the key difference 
between a Gate and a (Hand) Cast (Off) is that in a Hand Cast one person has 
some significant momentum to redirect and the other starts stationary, while in 
a Gate both people start from similar (not necessarily identical) states.  A 
Wheel Around tends to be 180 degrees, a Hand Cast tends to be 270 degrees, and 
you are going for 360 degrees.

 

              So, I would say that, in your dance, Gate would be the best word 
to use; Hand Cast, while basically the same, is not quite the right term and is 
rarely used these days.

 

            Happy dancing,                          

                   John                                   

                                    

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From: Callers <callers-boun...@lists.sharedweight.net 
<mailto:callers-boun...@lists.sharedweight.net> > On Behalf Of Don Veino via 
Callers
Sent: 08 October 2018 06:21
To: Caller's discussion list <call...@sharedweight.net 
<mailto:call...@sharedweight.net> >
Subject: [Callers] Gate vs Hand Cast

 

You may have seen my "Feeling Gravity's Pull" which I posted at the end of the 
recent Mad Robin teaching thread.

 

In that dance, there's a move where partners are facing in side by side on the 
outside of the set (where the Gents have forward momentum and the Ladies 
neutral to backward momentum) and my intent was for them to rotate around their 
inside hand connection with the Gents going forward and Ladies backing up once 
around. (As opposed to the Gent walks a circle around the Lady.) So the net 
effect would be like a courtesy turn, in going around a central point between 
the dancers, just a little "wider."

 

I believe the correct term for this would be "Hand Cast" but I had a dancer who 
was adamant about it being a "Gate" in ECD so when I posted the dance that's 
the term I used. I've again done some googling and found no ready reference to 
a "Hand Cast" in ECD and only the slightest in a contra context, yet the term 
sticks in my mind.

 

What say ye? Is "Hand Cast" a thing and correct in this context?

 

Thanks,

Don

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