Re: [Callers] Gypsy perception

2015-11-03 Thread John Meechan via Callers
November 2015 19:22 To: Donald Perley Cc: callers Subject: Re: [Callers] Gypsy perception To quote the Gypsy Council website you have shared: "In the UK today we are proud to be Gypsy's but in Europe many people regard the term Gypsy as a term of abuse and prefer to be called Roma or to be c

Re: [Callers] Gypsy perception

2015-11-03 Thread Harris Lapiroff via Callers
To quote the Gypsy Council website you have shared: "In the UK today we are proud to be Gypsy's but in Europe many people regard the term Gypsy as a term of abuse and prefer to be called Roma or to be called by the name of their individual group,

Re: [Callers] Gypsy perception

2015-11-03 Thread Donald Perley via Callers
I'd say I'm putting it in the context of a bigger picture, in multiple dimensions. I would call diving right into which phrase should replace gypsy before there is any agreement that it should be replaced passive-aggressive. Go ahead and discuss.. as someone else posted, a national group in

Re: [Callers] Gypsy perception

2015-11-03 Thread Ron Blechner via Callers
Donald, I am reading your comments as an attempt solely at shutting up other people. Is this your intent? It also comes off pretty passive aggressive. That is *not* appreciated and *not* helpful. Disagree all you like, but if you don't want to participate in a discussion, please don't interfere

Re: [Callers] Gypsy perception

2015-11-03 Thread Donald Perley via Callers
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Aahz Maruch via Callers > I have to admit that technically your argument is correct WRT me, but > that's because I haven't been contra dancing at all (except for Queer > Contra Dance Camp). Instead, I've been focusing my time/energy on > learning to call MWSD,

Re: [Callers] Gypsy perception

2015-11-02 Thread Yoyo Zhou via Callers
Hi folks. I was so ready to be done with this discussion, but. Regardless of your views on the matter at hand, the goal of this discussion list is to be a place for respectful exchange of ideas. After all, we welcome even the most naive questions from the most novice callers, because we are here

Re: [Callers] Gypsy perception

2015-11-02 Thread Aahz Maruch via Callers
On Mon, Nov 02, 2015, Donald Perley wrote: > > It often seems like people on contra email lists and facebook get more > joy from seeking problems to fix it through political correctness than > they do from dancing itself. I'm sure it seems that way to *you*. Then again, I'm sure you used the

Re: [Callers] Gypsy perception

2015-11-02 Thread Donald Perley via Callers
It often seems like people on contra email lists and facebook get more joy from seeking problems to fix it through political correctness than they do from dancing itself. On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 8:16 PM, Tom Hinds via Callers wrote: > No Aahz my logic is broken.

Re: [Callers] Gypsy perception

2015-11-01 Thread Tom Hinds via Callers
No Aahz my logic is broken. Our perceptions and experiences are different. You said, The question isn't whether using "gypsy" generates negative stereotypes but whether using the word reminds people of existing negative stereotypes and whether the people referred to by the word have