Re: [Callers] terminology in Sicilian Circle

[John Rogers via Callers]

The term I use depends on what other dances I plan to be calling in the 
evening.  Sometimes it is neighbor, sometimes it is corner.

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> On Sep 20, 2017, at 6:35 AM, Jacob or Nancy Bloom via Callers 
>  wrote:
> 
> I don't think correctness needs to be considered. As long as the dancers 
> understand that they're going to do something with the person next to them 
> who isn't their partner, I'm happy, and either term conveys that.
> 
> Nowadays I think that I'm more likely to hear the word neighbor come out of 
> my mouth.
> 
> Jacob 
> 
>> On Sep 20, 2017 9:28 AM, "Sue C. Hulsether via Callers" 
>>  wrote:
>> Does anyone have an opinion about the use of the term “neighbor”  and the 
>> term “opposite” in a Sicilian Circle?
>> “Neighbor” is more correct from a contra perspective, but “opposite" feels 
>> more correct to me from a square dance perspective.
>> 
>> thanks,
>> 
>> sue
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Callers] terminology in Sicilian Circle

[Alan Winston via Callers]

In the 1980s in the SF Bay Area at English dances (which was where I saw 
Sicilian Circles regularly) "opposite" was the term generally used.  
Nowadays if I call an evening of longways dances and include one 
Sicilian, if I say "opposite" I get a lot of blank looks, so I say 
'neighbor' and the problem goes away.


"Opposite" seems like a self-descriptive term but if it's not getting 
used elsewhere in the evening it's a speed bump.


-- Alan


On 9/20/17 6:18 AM, Sue C. Hulsether via Callers wrote:
Does anyone have an opinion about the use of the term “neighbor”  and 
the term “opposite” in a Sicilian Circle?
“Neighbor” is more correct from a contra perspective, but “opposite" 
feels more correct to me from a square dance perspective.


thanks,

sue





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Re: [Callers] Multiple N swings / does this dance exist?

[Isaac Banner via Callers]

Hi Maia,

Here's one of my own -

*Grab Bag*
Contra/Dup Imp/Easy
A1
  LLFB
  (new) neighbor swing
A2
  Ladies RS full hey
B1
  Ladies pass right
  Partner turn right shoulder, swing
B2
  Circle left 3/4
  (same) neighbor swing
Notes
  I've found folks are also happy just skipping the right shoulder 'round /
gypsy in the B1 and going straight to the swing - either way works, your
mileage may vary.


On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 6:30 AM Angela DeCarlis via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Howdy Maia!
>
> "Cheat Lake Gypsies" sprung to mind.  I think I had it down as a Cary
> Ravitz dance, but on his website, it looks like it was done collaboratively
> by a group of folks at a dance weekend. Of course, the other annoying thing
> about this dance is that the title includes the G-word. I trust you'll
> handle that in some way that feels appropriate for you and your audience. :)
>
> Cheat Lake Gypsies
> Becket CCW
>
> A1 - Take hands in a ring and balance (4).
> - Ladies gypsy 1/2 (4).
> - Neighbors swing (8).
>
> A2 - Neighbors promenade around the full set (oval), counter-clockwise
> (6).
> - Ladies turn back to find a new neighbor (2).
> - (New) neighbors swing (8).
>
> B1 - Take hands with the full set and circle left (8).
> - Keep your neighbor and look for your partner to circle left 3/4 (8).
>
> B2 - Partners gypsy and swing (16).
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 8:07 AM, Linda Leslie via Callers <
> callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
>> Here are a few for you, Maia. Hope the workshop is a lot of fun!
>> Linda
>> ps: I have not seen your dance before…
>>
>> *Back from Vermont*
>> by David Zinkin
>> Contra/Improper/Int
>>
>> A1 ---
>> Neighbor swing
>> Long lines forward and back
>> A2 ---
>> Star right three-quarters to long waves (P right, gents out, ladies in)
>> Balance the long wave
>> Shadow allemande left once
>> B1 ---
>> Partner Balance and Swing
>> B2 ---
>> Circle left three-quarters
>> Swing same neighbor
>>   At ends, don't cross! shadow!
>>
>> *Got Nice Neighbors*
>> by Billy Boyer
>> Contra/Becket-CW/Easy
>>
>> A1 ---
>> Down the Hall four in line, turn as a couple, return
>> A2 ---
>> Circle left 3/4
>> (8) Neighbor swing
>> B1 ---
>> (8) Long lines, forward and back
>> (8) NEXT Neighbor swing*
>> B2 ---
>> (8) Ladies allemande Right 1-1/2
>> (8) Partner swing
>>
>> *Naked in California*
>> by Nils Fredland
>> Contra/Improper/Int
>>
>> A1 ---
>> Long lines forward and back
>> Neighbor swing
>> A2 ---
>> Ladies allemande right One-Half
>> Partner allemande left three-quarters
>> Shadow allemande right once and a half (ladies out, gents face in)
>> B1 ---
>> Long waves balance right, left, Slide right
>> Partner swing
>> B2 ---
>> Circle left three-quarters
>> Same neighbor swing
>>
>> *Around the Sound*
>> by Cary Ravitz
>> Contra/Becket-CW/Adv
>>
>> A1 ---
>> (var. on Give & Take): Long lines forward
>>  Neighbor gypsy 1/2, gent back up with N to swing (ladies side)
>> A2 ---
>> (8) 1/2 Hey, men passing left shoulders
>> Same Neighbor swing
>> B1 ---
>> Long lines forward, P gypsy 1/2 (same effect as pass thru, TA)
>> (8) Star Right 3/4
>> NEW GENTS alle L once (ladies step L to meet P)
>>
>> B2 ---
>> P B
>>
>> *CDS Reel*
>> by Ted Sannella
>> Contra/Improper/Easy
>>
>> A1 ---
>> Neighbor swing
>> Long lines forward and back (end join in)
>> A2 ---
>> Whole set circle left
>> Circle right
>> B1 ---
>> Star left three-quarters
>> Gents turn back and swing partner
>> B2 ---
>> Gents allemande left once and a half
>> Same neighbor Swing
>>
>>
>> On Sep 19, 2017, at 11:19 PM, Maia McCormick via Callers <
>> callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hey folks,
>>
>> Looking for a dance with multiple swings with the same N, and also
>> preferably a P b, for a workshop I'm running on in-dance communication.
>> Anyone have one to recommend?
>>
>> On a similar note, this is the dance I tossed off to fill this need: does
>> it exist? If not, tentatively titling it "Good Fences".
>>
>> Improper
>> A1: long lines forward and back
>> (new) N swing
>> A2: ladies chain to P
>> half hey (ladies pass R)
>> B1: P b
>> B2: gents alle. L 1 1/2
>> (same) N swing
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Re: [Callers] terminology in Sicilian Circle

[Mary Collins via Callers]

In the walk through I usually say the person who is NOT your partner is
your NEIGHBOR...do (whatever) with them...this sets the term and the
orientation in their mind

On Sep 20, 2017 9:35 AM, "Jacob or Nancy Bloom via Callers" <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> I don't think correctness needs to be considered. As long as the dancers
> understand that they're going to do something with the person next to them
> who isn't their partner, I'm happy, and either term conveys that.
>
> Nowadays I think that I'm more likely to hear the word neighbor come out
> of my mouth.
>
> Jacob
>
> On Sep 20, 2017 9:28 AM, "Sue C. Hulsether via Callers" <
> callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have an opinion about the use of the term “neighbor”  and the
>> term “opposite” in a Sicilian Circle?
>> “Neighbor” is more correct from a contra perspective, but “opposite"
>> feels more correct to me from a square dance perspective.
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> sue
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Sue Hulsether*
>> shulset...@mac.com
>>
>> www.suehulsether.com
>> 608-632-1267 <(608)%20632-1267>  Cell
>> 608-629-6250 <(608)%20629-6250>  Home
>> P.O. Box 363
>> Viroqua, WI 54665
>>
>>
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Re: [Callers] terminology in Sicilian Circle

[Jacob or Nancy Bloom via Callers]

I don't think correctness needs to be considered. As long as the dancers
understand that they're going to do something with the person next to them
who isn't their partner, I'm happy, and either term conveys that.

Nowadays I think that I'm more likely to hear the word neighbor come out of
my mouth.

Jacob

On Sep 20, 2017 9:28 AM, "Sue C. Hulsether via Callers" <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Does anyone have an opinion about the use of the term “neighbor”  and the
> term “opposite” in a Sicilian Circle?
> “Neighbor” is more correct from a contra perspective, but “opposite" feels
> more correct to me from a square dance perspective.
>
> thanks,
>
> sue
>
>
>
>
>
> *Sue Hulsether*
> shulset...@mac.com
>
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> 608-629-6250 <(608)%20629-6250>  Home
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Re: [Callers] Multiple N swings / does this dance exist?

[Angela DeCarlis via Callers]

Howdy Maia!

"Cheat Lake Gypsies" sprung to mind.  I think I had it down as a Cary
Ravitz dance, but on his website, it looks like it was done collaboratively
by a group of folks at a dance weekend. Of course, the other annoying thing
about this dance is that the title includes the G-word. I trust you'll
handle that in some way that feels appropriate for you and your audience. :)

Cheat Lake Gypsies
Becket CCW

A1 - Take hands in a ring and balance (4).
- Ladies gypsy 1/2 (4).
- Neighbors swing (8).

A2 - Neighbors promenade around the full set (oval), counter-clockwise (6).
- Ladies turn back to find a new neighbor (2).
- (New) neighbors swing (8).

B1 - Take hands with the full set and circle left (8).
- Keep your neighbor and look for your partner to circle left 3/4 (8).

B2 - Partners gypsy and swing (16).


On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 8:07 AM, Linda Leslie via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Here are a few for you, Maia. Hope the workshop is a lot of fun!
> Linda
> ps: I have not seen your dance before…
>
> *Back from Vermont*
> by David Zinkin
> Contra/Improper/Int
>
> A1 ---
> Neighbor swing
> Long lines forward and back
> A2 ---
> Star right three-quarters to long waves (P right, gents out, ladies in)
> Balance the long wave
> Shadow allemande left once
> B1 ---
> Partner Balance and Swing
> B2 ---
> Circle left three-quarters
> Swing same neighbor
>   At ends, don't cross! shadow!
>
> *Got Nice Neighbors*
> by Billy Boyer
> Contra/Becket-CW/Easy
>
> A1 ---
> Down the Hall four in line, turn as a couple, return
> A2 ---
> Circle left 3/4
> (8) Neighbor swing
> B1 ---
> (8) Long lines, forward and back
> (8) NEXT Neighbor swing*
> B2 ---
> (8) Ladies allemande Right 1-1/2
> (8) Partner swing
>
> *Naked in California*
> by Nils Fredland
> Contra/Improper/Int
>
> A1 ---
> Long lines forward and back
> Neighbor swing
> A2 ---
> Ladies allemande right One-Half
> Partner allemande left three-quarters
> Shadow allemande right once and a half (ladies out, gents face in)
> B1 ---
> Long waves balance right, left, Slide right
> Partner swing
> B2 ---
> Circle left three-quarters
> Same neighbor swing
>
> *Around the Sound*
> by Cary Ravitz
> Contra/Becket-CW/Adv
>
> A1 ---
> (var. on Give & Take): Long lines forward
>  Neighbor gypsy 1/2, gent back up with N to swing (ladies side)
> A2 ---
> (8) 1/2 Hey, men passing left shoulders
> Same Neighbor swing
> B1 ---
> Long lines forward, P gypsy 1/2 (same effect as pass thru, TA)
> (8) Star Right 3/4
> NEW GENTS alle L once (ladies step L to meet P)
>
> B2 ---
> P B
>
> *CDS Reel*
> by Ted Sannella
> Contra/Improper/Easy
>
> A1 ---
> Neighbor swing
> Long lines forward and back (end join in)
> A2 ---
> Whole set circle left
> Circle right
> B1 ---
> Star left three-quarters
> Gents turn back and swing partner
> B2 ---
> Gents allemande left once and a half
> Same neighbor Swing
>
>
> On Sep 19, 2017, at 11:19 PM, Maia McCormick via Callers <
> callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
> Hey folks,
>
> Looking for a dance with multiple swings with the same N, and also
> preferably a P b, for a workshop I'm running on in-dance communication.
> Anyone have one to recommend?
>
> On a similar note, this is the dance I tossed off to fill this need: does
> it exist? If not, tentatively titling it "Good Fences".
>
> Improper
> A1: long lines forward and back
> (new) N swing
> A2: ladies chain to P
> half hey (ladies pass R)
> B1: P b
> B2: gents alle. L 1 1/2
> (same) N swing
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[Callers] terminology in Sicilian Circle

[Sue C. Hulsether via Callers]

Does anyone have an opinion about the use of the term “neighbor”  and the term 
“opposite” in a Sicilian Circle?
“Neighbor” is more correct from a contra perspective, but “opposite" feels more 
correct to me from a square dance perspective.

thanks,

sue





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shulset...@mac.com

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Re: [Callers] Multiple N swings / does this dance exist?

[Linda Leslie via Callers]

Here are a few for you, Maia. Hope the workshop is a lot of fun!
Linda
ps: I have not seen your dance before…

Back from Vermont
by David Zinkin
Contra/Improper/Int

A1 ---
Neighbor swing
Long lines forward and back
A2 ---
Star right three-quarters to long waves (P right, gents out, ladies in)
Balance the long wave
Shadow allemande left once
B1 ---
Partner Balance and Swing
B2 ---
Circle left three-quarters
Swing same neighbor
  At ends, don't cross! shadow!

Got Nice Neighbors
by Billy Boyer
Contra/Becket-CW/Easy

A1 ---
Down the Hall four in line, turn as a couple, return
A2 ---
Circle left 3/4
(8) Neighbor swing
B1 ---
(8) Long lines, forward and back
(8) NEXT Neighbor swing*
B2 ---
(8) Ladies allemande Right 1-1/2
(8) Partner swing

Naked in California
by Nils Fredland
Contra/Improper/Int

A1 ---
Long lines forward and back
Neighbor swing
A2 ---
Ladies allemande right One-Half
Partner allemande left three-quarters
Shadow allemande right once and a half (ladies out, gents face in)
B1 ---
Long waves balance right, left, Slide right
Partner swing
B2 ---
Circle left three-quarters
Same neighbor swing

Around the Sound
by Cary Ravitz
Contra/Becket-CW/Adv

A1 ---
(var. on Give & Take): Long lines forward
 Neighbor gypsy 1/2, gent back up with N to swing (ladies side)
A2 ---
(8) 1/2 Hey, men passing left shoulders
Same Neighbor swing
B1 ---
Long lines forward, P gypsy 1/2 (same effect as pass thru, TA)
(8) Star Right 3/4 
NEW GENTS alle L once (ladies step L to meet P)

B2 ---
P B

CDS Reel
by Ted Sannella
Contra/Improper/Easy

A1 ---
Neighbor swing
Long lines forward and back (end join in)
A2 ---
Whole set circle left
Circle right
B1 ---
Star left three-quarters
Gents turn back and swing partner
B2 ---
Gents allemande left once and a half
Same neighbor Swing


On Sep 19, 2017, at 11:19 PM, Maia McCormick via Callers 
 wrote:

> Hey folks,
> 
> Looking for a dance with multiple swings with the same N, and also preferably 
> a P b, for a workshop I'm running on in-dance communication. Anyone have 
> one to recommend?
> 
> On a similar note, this is the dance I tossed off to fill this need: does it 
> exist? If not, tentatively titling it "Good Fences".
> 
> Improper
> A1: long lines forward and back
> (new) N swing
> A2: ladies chain to P
> half hey (ladies pass R)
> B1: P b
> B2: gents alle. L 1 1/2
> (same) N swing
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