Thank you! That sure does look like the same dance except B2 (or in the
original, C1!)
On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 6:36 PM
wrote:
> Send Callers mailing list submissions to
> callers@lists.sharedweight.net
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>
> http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> callers-requ...@lists.sharedweight.net
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
> callers-ow...@lists.sharedweight.net
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of Callers digest..."
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
>1. Coconut Cream Puff vs Pie + choreographer? (Liz Burkhart)
>2. Re: Coconut Cream Puff vs Pie + choreographer? (Winston, Alan P.)
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 20:36:43 -0400
> From: Liz Burkhart
> To: callers@lists.sharedweight.net
> Subject: [Callers] Coconut Cream Puff vs Pie + choreographer?
> Message-ID:
> 2syxfyof6be8bprm2ncqnbvhomdkd3t+fmztr8...@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> I have found two identical dances. First I collected Coconut Cream Puff by
> Nils Fredland, then I lost the card, and in the process of looking for it
> online, discovered Coconut Cream Pie by Lynn Ackerson. It is the same
> dance:
>
> 4 Facing 4
> A1 Lines of 4 go forward and back
> middles star R once
> A2 Partner allemande L 1 1/2
> new middles star R once
> B1 Partner balance & swing
> B2 All 8 circle L 1/2 (4 places)
> Balance ring, partner California twirl
>
>
> So who really wrote it? Does anyone know why there are two names and two
> choreographers attributed?
> -- next part --
> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
> URL: <
> http://lists.sharedweight.net/pipermail/callers-sharedweight.net/attachments/20190529/f1d8bc55/attachment-0001.html
> >
>
> --
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 00:41:03 +
> From: "Winston, Alan P."
> To: "callers@lists.sharedweight.net"
> Subject: Re: [Callers] Coconut Cream Puff vs Pie + choreographer?
> Message-ID:
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> My understanding is that Lynn adapted Ron Beeson's dance, Apple Pie
> Quadrille, by changing B2 into a can't-fail circle progression from a
> "Devil's Backbone" progression.
>
> I'm going to guess that Nils called it at a dance and somebody
> misattributed the dance to him and got the name wrong.
>
> Here's the notation Ridge Kennedy posted for Apple Pie Quadrille on the
> trad-dance-callers list:
>
>
> APPLE PIE QUADRILLE
> Ron Beeson (via Ridge Kennedy)
> Four Facing Four
>
> Called by Kathy Anderson at Buffalo gap 2002
> Ask for lively music that's a bit silly to suit the dance.
>
> A-1 Lines of Four, Forward and Back
> (Reminder - this is original direction!) (8)
>
> Center Four (dancers in the middle of each line of four):
> Star Right Once Around (8)
>
> A-2 Partners Allemande Left Once and a Half (8)
>
> Ends (Original ends of each line of four, now Center Four)
> Star Right Once Around (8)
>
> B-1 Partners balance and swing (16)
>
> B-2 "End Man" (Man on left end of line):Lead back over left shoulder to
> invert line. Lead around the *other* end of the other line and all
> face original direction and a new line of four. (16)
>
>
> Notes: Tricky Part: Leading the line back and around is counter-intuitive.
> End man starts turning in opposite direction that his line is progressing.
>
>
> Original dance:
>
> A-1 Lines forward and back (8) All do sa do opposite dancer(8)
> A-2 Centre four star right (8) All allemande left with partner x
> 3/2 (8)
> B-1 New centre four star right (8) All swing partners (8)
> B-2 Circle left all eight once round(16)
> C-1 The left hand man casts left taking his line around the other line
> to face the next line (16)
>
>
>
> -- Alan
>
>
> On 5/29/2019 5:36 PM, Liz Burkhart via Callers wrote:
> I have found two identical dances. First I collected Coconut Cream Puff by
> Nils Fredland, then I lost the card, and in the process of looking for it
> online, discovered Coconut Cream Pie by Lynn Ackerson. It is the same dance:
>
> 4 Facing 4
> A1 Lines of 4 go forward and back
> middles star R once
> A2 Partner allemande L 1 1/2
> new middles star R once
> B1 Partner balance & swing
> B2 All 8 circle L 1/2 (4 places)
> Balance ring, partner California twirl
>
>
> So who really wrote it? Does anyone know why there are two names and two
> choreographers attributed?
>
>
>
> ___
> List Name: Callers mailing list
> List Address: Callers@lists.sharedweight.net Callers@lists.sharedweight.net>
> Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/callers@list
