[Callers] Dances and Creative Commons

[Chris Page via Callers]

Hi,

Does anyone have experience/advice using a creative commons license
with dance descriptions?

(asking for someone else)
-Chris Page
California
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Re: [Callers] New Dance?

[Chris Page via Callers]

There's a couple of versions of Spring Break:

https://web.archive.org/web/20150909222325/http://www.nilsfredland.com/files/2014/04/Dance-Compositions1.pdf

-Chris Page
San Diego
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[Callers] Caller's Box update - videos!

[Chris Page via Callers]

Michael Dyck and my contra dance database project, the Caller's Box,

http://www.ibiblio.org/contradance/thecallersbox/

now includes links for about 1,900 dances to about 8,000 youtube videos.

They're currently unsorted, but hopefully after a few random clicks on
the currently 115 identified videos of Gene Hubert's "Butter",
there'll be an interesting one.

-Chris Page
San Diego, CA
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Re: [Callers] Moves Following Box Circulate

[Chris Page via Callers]

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 3:38 PM Isaac Banner via Callers
 wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> I've felt like most box circulate dances use the circulate as a buildup into 
> a swing with someone. Looking at http://www.contra.dance/thecallersbox, there 
> are only 12 results for dances with a circulate that isn't followed by a 
> swing and 9 of those results don't include their choreography (grumble 
> grumble), so I can't actually confirm that they belong in the result set.
>
> I feel like there's a lot of potential for dances that have box circulates 
> followed by something other than a swing. Here are a few I've been messing 
> with:

It's hard.

Box circulates often tend to be done in pairs. And you can't (or
shouldn't) transition directly from swing to long waves. So, you've
already got:

Swing one
Eight-beat connector to swing two
Swing two
Eight beat (or 16) transition to long waves
Box circulate
Box Circulate

This leaves 8 to 16 beats to do something after the circulate, which
needs to go directly into a swing. You also need to fit in a
progression somewhere.

Or you could dispose of the neighbor swing, which gives you some
breathing room. The other issue is that the circulate is unusual
enough that it tends to be the signature figure of a dance, with other
figures supporting it.

I did write one, "Out of Circulation", which went from a circulate
directly into a half hey into a swing.

-Chris Page
San Diego
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Re: [Callers] Building to Contra Corners

[Chris Page via Callers]

Like many others, I recommend a triplet or 3-face-3. You're not going
out of your minor set, and not everyone's active all the time.

I recommend:
Corner Triplet (Linda Leslie)
Melanie's Triplet (Melanie Axel-Lute)
Microchasmic Triplet (Ann Fallon)

or

Down by the Riverside (3-face-3 by Melanie Axel-Lute)

I don't recommend Ted's Triplet #7, because it also includes a proper
right-and-left through, which many people these days are more
unfamiliar with than contra corners.

-Chris Page
San Diego, CA

On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 1:38 PM Hannah Chamb via Callers
 wrote:
>
> Hi all, first time posting here!
>
> I'm new-ish to calling and I've yet to call contra corners. I think I'm up 
> for the challenge and could teach the figure itself, but I still think it's a 
> tricky one for dancers in all but the most experienced crowds. A few callers 
> I know have advised me to build up to a challenging figure like contra 
> corners over the course of an evening by calling dances that echo the skills 
> the dancers will need later.
>
> With that in mind, what dances would you call early in the evening in a 
> mixed-level group that would help "teach" dancers the skills they need to be 
> successful at contra corners?
>
> I've been thinking I should include an easy proper-ish dance, and maybe a 
> dance with allemandes outside the minor set... anything else come to mind?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Hannah Chamberlain
> Westbrook, ME
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Re: [Callers] joke, and a request

[Chris Page via Callers]

I've written a few triple minors. The best are probably TLC Tempest and
Whirlpool.

http://chrispagecontra.awardspace.us/dances/index.htm#whirlpool
http://chrispagecontra.awardspace.us/dances/dlist2.htm#tlc-tempest

Both have very low piece count, and can be done in a regular evening.

Beyond that, I'd recommend "Good Times" by Al Olson, replacing the B2 with
(new) lines of three forward and back, ones swing.

-Chris Page
San Diego

On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 8:34 PM Judy Greenhill via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

>
> On a more serious note, I would like to get my local dance series doing
> more-well, actually some!-triple minors. Eventually I’d like to get them to
> at least tolerate some of the traditional dances, but the learning curve of
> triple minor +plus unfamiliar figures + no swing has always been just too
> steep for them to manage. I’ve gone through Zesty Contras for more modern
> triples but so far haven’t found one that I think will work-so, what are
> your favourite triple minors? What worked-and what didn’t-in introducing
> them to a crowd used to at least one swing in every dance, and everybody
> moving most, if not all of the time?
>
>
>
> Can include contra corners as they are pretty proficient-thanks to 3 years
> of including it every time I call!
>
>
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Re: [Callers] does this dance already exist?

[Chris Page via Callers]

In contra, I find 2 beats per pull-by and 1 beat per quarter turn
works out nicely.

When it's done with balances, and quick pull-bys, people can cheat by
trimming the balance times.

When it gets done as 8 beats for a square through four without
balances, the floor becomes rather choppy, to say the least.

-Chris Page
San Diego, CA
On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 7:57 AM Rich Sbardella via Callers
 wrote:
>
> In MWSD it is the fact that the dancers are not adjacent to each other, the 
> two beats allow them to get into the center and then they have 8 beats to 
> square thru.
> -Rich
>
> On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 2:48 AM Nick Cuccia via Callers 
>  wrote:
>>
>> Could hand technique be contributing to square thrus taking more than
>> two beats per exchange?  One of my long-past English dance instructors
>> taught pull-by hands as almost a quick handshake-and-release, where
>> you're no longer in contact by the time you're shoulder-to-shoulder.  If
>> the dancers maintain contact for longer than that, one of them is almost
>> certainly going to have less than a 1/4 turn after the exchange, while
>> the other will have more than a 1/4 turn.  I've observed this phenomena
>> even in 16-beat square thrus with balances preceding the first and third
>> exchanges.
>>
>> --Nick
>>
>> [Stuff below Rich's response snipped]
>>
>> On 09/08/2018 09:34 PM, Rich Sbardella via Callers wrote:
>> > The Callerlab timing chart has square thru taking 10 beats from a
>> > static square and 8 beats from (closer( facing couples such as they
>> > would be after the heads star thru.
>> >
>> > In the following square I would allow 10 beats.
>> >
>> > Heads Lead Right & Circle to a Line,
>> > Lines F
>> > 2 ladies Chain Across and Back
>> > Has Square Thru 4  (This square thru is from a line of four that is at
>> > the sides static position.
>> > Corner Swg & Promenade
>> >
>> > In the square, below, I would use 8 beats for the second square thru.
>> >
>> > Heads Sq Thru 4 (10)
>> > RH Star (8), LH Star (8)
>> > Corner DSD (6), Sq Thru 4 (8)
>> > Can Swg (8), Promenade (16)
>> >
>> > In this square the dancers start the second square thru nose to nose
>> > rather than across the set.
>> >
>> > Most contra would be starting a square thru from across the set, so 10
>> > is a good number, if it starts after a balance, 8 would be wiser.
>> >
>> > Rich
>> >
>>
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Re: [Callers] Square Dance Choruses

[Chris Page via Callers]

Try reading here, starting at page 60:

https://www.library.unh.edu/special/forms/rpdlw/syllabus2005.pdf

Also, Tom HInds wrote a book about them:

https://www.cdss.org/vm-store/store-home/books/give-me-a-break-a-collection-of-64-new-england-style-square-dance-breaks-115-detail

Cheers,
-Chris Page
San Diego
On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 4:19 AM Liam Binley via Callers
 wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I have been calling for about a 18 months now, mostly Contra, with a bit of 
> ECD mixed in for good measure. The one thing I haven’t tried yet is American 
> format squares(chorus, figure, figure, chorus, etc)! So, I have some square 
> figures that I’d like to try, but I’m a bit stuck on choruses. Has anyone got 
> any good, interesting, but simple choruses that can be easily done ‘on the 
> call’?
>
> Many Thanks,
> Liam Binley.
>
> liam.bin...@me.com
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[Callers] New contra dance database

[Chris Page via Callers]

Michael Dyck and I have done a thing:

http://www.ibiblio.org/contradance/thecallersbox/

This (mostly) contra dance database 12,000 dances:
5,000 dances with viewable instructions
4,000 more dances with links to instructions

Current search options include author, title, formation, and figures.
You can search the figures of dances even when we don't have
permission to show the figures.


This will always be a work in progress, but hopefully it's good enough to use.

Have fun!

(and a lot of questions should be answerable by the FAQ on that site.)

-Chris Page and Michael Dyck

p.s.
This has been (and continues to be) a long-term project. Michael and I
started formally working on this back in April of 2015, but I started
building my database back in November of 2010.
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Re: [Callers] Contras with square dance figures

[Chris Page via Callers]

If it can be done with four people, it's likely been put in a contra
by _someone_.

Some other moves that I don't think anyone's mentioned yet:

Cloverleaf
Grand right and left
Lady around two/gent cut through
Orbit (many dances) (derived from Spin the Top via Fenterlarick)

And some more obscure ones:

Two-leaf clover
Dip and dive
Roll the barrel
Mountain style do-si-do
All eight spin the top
Spin the top
Catch all Eight (as in "Dancing Bear")
Do paso
Dixie style to a wave
Scoot back
Half sashay
Veer

In some contras written by Contralab folks, you have all sorts of
stuff, including

Run
Trade the wave
Sweep a quarter
Walk and dodge
Wheel and deal
Shuffle the deck
Diamond circulate
Explode

And plugging some of my own really weird dances, I've got:

Not Your Average Joe: Birdie in the cage
Rufty Rainbows: Rainbow stroll
TLC Tempest: Three ladies chain
Two Steps Forward: Ladies center/gents sashay
Wagon Reel: Wagon wheel

(One could even argue "Ladies chain" is this fancy new quadrille
figure that got introduced into contras.)

-Chris Page
San Diego


On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 12:51 PM, Rachel Shapiro via Callers
 wrote:
> Hi all,
> I'm in search of contras that have borrowed interesting figures from
> traditional and modern western square dances. Do you have any favorites
> you're willing to share? I've got Rang Tang Contra and some dances with
> Dixie Twirls. Lots with Box the Gnat and Swat the Flea. Any others you love?
> Thank you!
> Rachel Shapiro Wallace
>
>
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Re: [Callers] Folk Festival - Easy Contra dances to teach Beginners

[Chris Page via Callers]

On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 9:00 AM, John Sweeney via Callers
 wrote:
> Hi Lorraine,

As a clarification, this is not my version of Ellen's Green Jig.

It was developed by another San Diego caller, Graham Hempel, by taking
the A1/A2 of Broken Sixpence
and putting it in Ellen's Green Jig.

Cheers,
-Chris Page
San Diego

>
> Flirtation Reel is great and I use this a lot with beginners as well – the
> Chris Page version:
>
>
>
> = = = = = = = = =
>
> Ellen's Green Jig (by Roy Dommett)
>
> Contra; Improper
>
>
>
> A1:Neighbour Dosido; Partner Dosido
>
> A2:#1s Balance & Swing (Step, Kick) – finish facing down
>
> B1: Circle Left; Circle Right – keep holding hands in the Circle
>
> B2: Duck for Oysters: #2s Arch - #1s Peek; #1s Arch - #2s Peek
>
>   #2s Arch over #1s who pass through to New Neighbours
>
>
>
> "Duck for the oyster, dive for the clam, duck through the hole in the old
> tin can."
>
>
>
> Alt (Chris Page):
>
> A1:Dosido Neighbour; Men Dosido
>
> A2:Ladies Dosido; #1s Swing, end facing down
>
>
>
> = = = = = = = = =
>
>
>
>   I hope that helps.
>
>
>
> Happy dancing,
>
>John
>
>
>
> John Sweeney, Dancer, England   j...@modernjive.com 01233 625 362 & 07802
> 940 574
>
> http://www.modernjive.com for Modern Jive Events & DVDs
>
> http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent
>
>
>
> From: Callers  On Behalf Of Lorraine
> Sutton via Callers
> Sent: 24 July 2018 15:49
> To: Callers@lists.sharedweight.net
> Subject: [Callers] Folk Festival - Easy Contra dances to teach Beginners
>
>
>
> Hello All,
>
>
>
> I am calling a 2 hour Intro to Contra dance at an Ontario Canada
> Festival. ( more a music focus than a dance focus, at this festival)
>
>
>
> I would appreciate hearing from you as to contra dances ( lws proper &
> Improper) that you have found successful with very novice dancers and why
> you think those dances work for beginners.(I love Larry Jennings definition
> of easy vs complicated )
>
>
>
> I do plan on doing some non progressive lws as well as a both a circle and a
> Sicilian  circle in the program mix , to get the concept of progression.
>
>
>
> Thanks so much.
>
>
>
> Lorraine Sutton  ( lorrainesutt...@gmail.com )
>
>
>
>
>
> ...
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Re: [Callers] Star 1/2 -> Star 1/2?

[Chris Page via Callers]

Just a heads-up.

There's a number of ECD dances, especially 4-couple set dances, that have a
sequence of progressive 1/2 stars.

When teaching them, I find them to be the hardest part of the dance for dancers,
and where it's most likely to break down.

So the difficulty level may be more than you expect.

-Chris Page
San Diego

On Sat, Apr 21, 2018 at 7:05 PM, Luke Donforth via Callers
 wrote:
> I was recently thinking about star to star transitions. There are lots of
> great dances that go star 1x to opposite hand star 1x (such as Lisa
> Greenleaf's "Poetry in Motion", Robert Cromartie's "Al's Safeway Produce",
> Linda Leslie's "Burlington Spirit"...); and then there are the star -> same
> hand star dances (Mike Richardson's "Star Trek", my "Voyager", Dugan
> Murphey's "The Next Generation"...)
>
> Are there dances that use star just half way -> with next, opposite hand
> star 1/2 way? I'm envisioning something with a bit of a zig-zag feel, but
> that could be done in crowded dance halls where you don't want folks
> swooping out laterally (like John Coffman's "Boys of Urbana"), but more
> connected than a single file promenade snake like Cary Ravitz's "March of
> the Coffee Zombies".
>
> Are there already dances out there like this?
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Re: [Callers] alphabet breaks

[Chris Page via Callers]

Searching

https://squaredancehistory.org/items/search/

for "allemande alphabet"

gives the appropriate links.

-Chris Page
San Diego

On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 8:08 PM, Mac Mckeever via Callers
 wrote:
> I am trying to collect the series of square breaks based on various letters
> of the alphabet - I believe there are a bunch oft them.
>
> I can only remember allemand X and allemand R
>
> Who has others?
>
> Mac Mckeever
>
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Re: [Callers] New (?) 4x4 contra

[Chris Page via Callers]

Having tested something like this a decade ago, I can report from
painful experience
that the half hey takes about 12 beats, not 8.

"Harvest Hey" by Erik Hoffman gets the timing right.

-Chris Page
San Diego

On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 6:04 PM, Luke Donforth via Callers
 wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I was playing around with a new (?) composition; and since it's a 4x4, it's
> unlikely I'll get a house-party together to test it any time soon. I'd
> appreciate feedback on flow (would it work), timing (is it too much?) and
> how you'd teach it. I'm especially curious if something similar exists in
> the square dance repertoire; specifically the figure used in B1
>
> Tamlin's Cross
> Bent 4x4 (i.e. 4x4 formation, but with couples facing into the middle on an
> X, instead of straight up and down in lines of four)
>
> A1
> (4) All 8 go into the middle and shout
> (4) Gents roll partners away on the way out
> (8) Neighbor Do-Si-Do
> A2
> (16) Neighbor Balance and Swing (square the set and face in)
> B1
> (8) Gents left hands across star 1x
> (8) start passing neighbor you swung by right, all 8 half hey through,
> then turn away from neighbor you swung
> B2
> (16) Partner Balance and Swing
> End the swing facing new couple, having swapped sides with your trail-buddy
> couple
>
> For the half hey through, all 8 folks are moving at the same time. At the
> end of A2, there are couples in head and side position (nobody is with their
> partner). The heads are heying up and down, while the sides are heying
> across. When four people of the same role come into the middle, what would
> normally be a left shoulder pass is (in my mind's eye) half of a left hand
> star
>
> I look forward to hearing your thoughts.
> Thanks
>
> --
> Luke Donforth
> luke.donfo...@gmail.com
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[Callers] Fwd: More substitute terms for the g-word

[Chris Page via Callers]

-- Forwarded message -
From: Chris Page 
Date: Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Callers] More substitute terms for the g-word
To: Michael Barraclough 


And could we please do this under a separate thread so it doesn’t drown out
the original question?

-Chris Page
San Diego


On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 1:44 PM Michael Barraclough via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Could someone please explain to me why the word gyp*** is considered a
> racial slur. I note that the body that represents gyp***s in the USA calls
> itself the Gypsy Council USA and in the UK it is the Gypsy Council. This is
> the term they have chosen to represent their ethnicity and they seem to be
> proud of it. Who are we to disagree?
>
> Michael Barraclough
> http://michaelbarraclough.com
>
>
> On 03/14/2018 01:33 PM, Rich Sbardella via Callers wrote:
>
> I think having a word that sounds similar is an asset, not a liability.  I
> have used look-see quite successfully.  In years, few will know that a
> "look-see" used to be called as a G...  I have also used Walk 'round with
> no problem.
>
> My initial attempt was Hipsy, but Linda Leslie quickly, and prudently
> discouraged such usage.
>
> Rich
>
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 4:25 PM, Martha Wild via Callers <
> callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
>> I don’t see that if you substitute a term that ends with a long e it
>> should be nixed just for that reason. OK, maybe kipsy might be considered
>> just a euphemism. But "Look-see", as described by Susan Michaels, has the
>> virtue of involving the fact that you are looking at the other person, and
>> seeing them. Why shouldn’t we choose a term that’s easier to substitute and
>> remember to use like “Look-see” instead of the bland, cold, bulky,
>> impossible to shorten, “right shoulder round” (or left shoulder round).
>> Martha
>>
>> > On Mar 14, 2018, at 1:11 PM, Kalia Kliban via Callers <
>> callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > I appreciate the point that several have made that a term that sounds
>> just like gypsy isn't a reasonable substitute.  Fair enough.  The search
>> continues...
>> >
>> > Kalia in Sebastopol
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Re: [Callers] Looking for "fun" dances

[Chris Page via Callers]

Ninepins?

-Chris Page
San Diego, CA

On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 10:23 AM, Sue via Callers
 wrote:
> Sure they're all fun (we hope). I'm looking for a few dances that are
> particularly playful, quirky, sillysomething that typically gets the
> dancers laughing.
>
> You get the idea. What are your favorites?
>
> Sue Gola
> Princeton, NJ
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Re: [Callers] Holiday Contra

[Chris Page via Callers]

Time to flog one of mine:

Christmas Stars
Improper

A1 Ones star left 1 with woman two (M1 behind partner)
   Ones star right 3/4 with man two (W1 behind partner)
   Man one cross set to original place
A2 Neighbor gypsy
   Neighbor swing
B1 Circle left 3/4
   Partner swing
B2 Ladies chain
   Long lines forward and back


It's trickier than it looks, because it's different for the ones and the twos.

And it's best to demo the A1.

-Chris Page
San Diego

On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Rich Sbardella via Callers
 wrote:
> Does anyone have a couple of easy holiday themed contras to share?
> Thanks,
> Rich
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Re: [Callers] New Dance to Share

[Chris Page via Callers]

Pat Shaw's "The American Husband" -- and all of the rest of his dances
-- can be found at this wonderful, fairly recent website:

http://www.patshaw.info/dances/

--Chris Page
San Diego

Re: [Callers] Pousette between mad robins

[Chris Page via Callers]

Songbird by Cary Ravitz
Rough Ride by Tom Hinds

-Chris Page
San Diego

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Ron Blechner via Callers
 wrote:
> Choreography question:
>
> Anyone encounter any dances with a mad robin, half pousette, into a mad
> Robin with new neighbors?
>
> Thanks,
> Ron Blechner
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Re: [Callers] Favorite relatively Modern ECD

[Chris Page via Callers]

Here's a useful starting source:

http://dancevideos.childgrove.org/ecd/ecd-modern

If you want a broader range (though you'll have to google/check books
for instructions and such), try:

http://lambertvillecountrydancers.org/videolist3.html


-Chris Page
San Diego, CA

On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 10:49 PM, Erik Hoffman via Callers
 wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I’m going to lead an English dance in early February. I’ve led English once
> or twice, and mostly stuck with The Playford Collection, and some Pat Shaw
> dances. I wouldn’t mind collecting a few more modern dances.
>
> Please feel free to either post them to the list, or send to me directly:
>   e...@erikhoffman.com
>
> And, of course, please include the music.
>
> Thanks,
> ~Erik Hoffman
>Oakland, CA
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Re: [Callers] A Lot of "Don't Know" dances

[Chris Page via Callers]

I've only answered the ones I know.


On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Erik Hoffman via Callers
 wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> In my book of collected dances I have a bunch of “Don’t knows.” Some have
> more info, like “from Kathy Anderson.” In an attempt to get names and
> choreographers in one fell swoop, I’m putting them all here. All help is
> appreciated!
>
> Don’t Know Yet #0, from ???
> Becket
> Don’t know
> A1Wmn Allemande Rt 1½; Half Hey (Nb st Lft sh)
> A2  NbrB
> B1  on Lft Diag: Women Chain—to Shdw; (w/ Shdw) Across: Right & Left
> Thru
> B2  LLF Partner Swing


My Right Hand Man (Roger Auman)


>
> Don’t Know #4
> Improper
> Don’t know
> A1  DSD Nbr;  Sw Nbr
> A2  R Thru Acrss; Star Lft ¾, end in a wave on the Wm’s side Pt in
> left, Shdw in Rt
> B1  BAL the wave, Al Rt Shdw; Sw Pt
> B2  Circle Lft 1¼; CA twirl Pt
>

Slight variant of "A Precarious Balance" by Becky Hill. (Original has
Neighbor balance and swing)

> Don’t Know Yet #5 from Cis Hinkle
> Improper
> Kathy Anderson
> A1  Ones split the Twos (with hands? Gate?): Mirror DSD (or gate?) to
> Circle;  BAL the Ring, Pt Rollaway with a Half Sashay Acrss
> A2  DSD Nbr to a Wave, Mn in Center;  Ry O’Mr BAL (to put Wm in center)
> B1  Wm Al Lft 1½;  Sw Pt
> B2  Prom Pt;  Circle Lft ¾, Twos Arch, Pop the Ones through
> From Cis Hinkle at Harvest Moon

Maybe "Early Morning Swim"?
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/rec.folk-dancing/O1hia3fo16c/fO-hV67EezAJ


>
> Don’t Know from Briefcase #1
> Improper
> Me?
> A1  Ptnella BAL Twice
> A2  BAL the Ring, CA Twril Pt;  Sw Nbr
> B1  Mn Al Lft 1½;  Sw Pt
> B2  Wm Chain;  Half Hey, Wm start, Rt shoulder
> From a green piece of paper, the 2000 Echo Summit dance schedule.  I should
> email Susan Kevra (the other caller) and see if she knows about this dance.

Greenfield Petronella by Chris Ricciotti

>
> Don’t Know Yet From Andy Wilson—June 1, 
> Imp
> A1  “Hey” along lines: Pass Nb Rt, next Lft, 3rd Rt Shoulder Turn, pass
> next Left, to
> Current Nbr
> A1   w/ Current Nbr, ½ Rt Sh Turn then “Stalk”: Wm crosses, Mn follows
> to other
> side;  Nb Sw
> B1  Circle Lft ¾;  Pt Sw
> B2  Star Lft ¾; turn to face Nbr: BAL, Pull by w/ Rt
> Says, Beware to start the “Hey” with the Right Shoulder. Could that last
> Balance & Pull By be with the Left?

Looks like a variant of "A Rare Bird" by Bob Isaacs.
Original has A1 gypsy instead of right-hand turn, B2 of
Long lines, star left 3/4, pull by left.


>
> Don’t Know Yet From Cis Hinckle @ Harvest Moon
> Improper
> A1  BAL & Sw Nbr
> A2  LLF with Wm Rolling Away with a Half Sashay (left);  LLF with Mn
> Rolling Away with a Half Sashay (Rt, same Nbr)
> B1  Wm Al Rt 1½;  Sw Pt
> B2  Wm Chain;  Star Left

"Rollin' and Tumblin'" by Cis Hiinkle.

>
> Don't Know Yet from Dean Alemain
> Becket
> A1  Crcl Lft ¾;  Nb Sw
> A2  LLF Mn Al Lft 1½
> B1  Pt BAL & Sw
> B2  Mn Cross (4), Wm Cross (4); Hands Across Rt Star
> Single File lead to next couple (Mn in lead)

"Fun Dance for Marjorie" by Bob Golder.

>
> Don’t Know Yet From Gordy Euler—Oct 17, 2012, in Berk
> Imp
> A1  Bal Ring, w/ Pt, CA Twirl, turn alone to face in
> Bal Ring, w/ Nb, CA Twirl, (I think:) turn alone to face in
> A2  Bal Ring, w/ Pt, Ca Twirl to face new Nb;  that New Nb Sw
> B1  Circle Lft ¾;  Pt Sw
> B2  Wm Chain;  LLF w/ Rollaway
> (or, I think, LLF Wm Chain /w Rollaway)

"California Twirlin'" by Janet Levatin

>
> Don’t Know Yet from Kathy Anderson @ BDD 9
> Improper
> Al Olson
> A1  (Remember this Nbr) LLF  BAL Towards Nbr One, Back, Roll Away
> with Half Sashay
> A2  (still in lines) BALt  towards Nbr Two, Away, Sw Nbr Two
> B1  Mn Al Lft 1½;  Sw Pt
> B2  (with Nbr Two) Star Lft ¾;  Sw Nbr One
> From Kathy Anderson at the Brattleboro Dawn Dance, May 29, 2000


"Backstitch" by Al Olson


>
> Don’t Know Yet From Kathy Anderson @ M.T. #1
> Improper
> A1LLF w/ Rollaway; Women Chain
> A2Hey (Wm st Rt sh)
> B1Partner B
> B2Circle Left ¾; Neighbor Swing

"Rollin' to the Gray Eagle" by Hank Morris

>
> Don’t Know Yet From Kathy Anderson @ M.T. #2
> Improper
> A1Star Right; Neighbor Gypsy
> A2Circle Single File Left Half (still looking at Neighbor Women lead)
> (4)
>  Neighbor Gypsy (some more) (4);
>  Neighbor Swing
> B1Give & Take: Women pull Partner back
> B2Women Chain; Star Left

"Baridhara" by Chris Weiler.

>
> Don’t Know Yet From Mavis March 2 2016
> Improper
> A1 Nbr DSD; Nbr Swing
> A2 LLF  Wm chain (to Pt)—end in Ring
> B1 Ring Balance, Roll Nbr; Pt Swing
> B2 Circle Lft ¾;  Ring Balance, CA Twirl

Probably "Roll 12.5" by Chris Page, especially if he got it from Frannie Marr.

>
> Don’t Know Yet From Mike Richardson, MT 2001 #1
> Becket
> ???
> A1  Long Lines Forwad & Back;  Circle Left, Slide Lft (R T; Circle
> Slide, or LLF, 

Re: [Callers] Dance Variety

[Chris Page via Callers]

If you start from the common man-on-the-left, woman-on-the-right, and
circle left 3/4, the women have swapped sides.

Easiest fix is to have the women swap sides again somewhere else.

-Chris Page
San Diego, CA



On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Don Veino via Callers
 wrote:
>
> On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Rich Sbardella via Callers
>  wrote:
>>
>> Is this unique to my collection or this generally true of contra dances?
>
>
> I've had a similar observation (not in my deck necessarily but also from the
> dance programs I encounter on the floor) - in many cases the Ladies are the
> ones getting the run around/doing the most "single role" action. I haven't
> done the percentages, but to me it seems the Gents' same role action is
> typically limited to allemandes.
>
> This is something I've been using to inform my own dance compositions,
> creating either more even or Gents-heavy dances (featuring other moves)
> which could balance things out in aggregate.
>
> -Don
>

Re: [Callers] Recognize this?

[Chris Page via Callers]

St. Louis Cruise, by Roger Diggle. (Midwest Folklore)

(though the original has no ring balance in the B2)

-Chris Page
San Diego, CA

On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Amy Wimmer via Callers
 wrote:
> I've had this dance for years and don't know who wrote it or what it's
> called. Anyone know?
>
> Duple, improper
> A1 ladies chain up/down set to neighbor
>   Partner swing
> A2 circle L 3 places
>   Neighbor swing
> B1 long lines F & B
>   Ladies chain
> B2 circle L 1 1/4
>   Rings of 4 balance, California twirl
>
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Re: [Callers] Is this a new dance?

[Chris Page via Callers]

As a general comment, I actively dislike dances that try and squeeze
circle left 1 & 1/4 into eight beats.

One dance I was in (Dancing and the Road to Hell) led to arguments on
the dance floor.

-Chris Page
San Diego, CA

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 1:54 PM, via Callers
 wrote:
>  Not sure if this has already been written, but it fits a particular spot in
> an upcoming program:
>
> A1 LL FB
> Circle L 1.25 to face P on side
>
> A2 DSD P, Swing P
> (or Balance and Swing P)
>
> B1 LL FB
> Circle L .75 to face N on side
>
> B2 DSD N, Swing N
> (or Balance and Swing N)
>
>  Thanks for any enlightenment!
>
> Ann in hot, humid, Annapolis, MD
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Re: [Callers] tips for teaching dancing the "other" role?

[Chris Page via Callers]

One subtle thing that's different is progression instincts -- typically men's
role progress on the left, women's on the right. (Like with a final B2
of circle left 3/4, pass through).


The few times I've had everyone do a gender swap, I've gone with the
dance "Bicoastal Contra" by Pete Campbell.

http://lists.sharedweight.net/pipermail/callers-sharedweight.net/2008-April/009516.html

Two swings, one courtesy turn, a men's allemande, fairly simple
choreography -- and neither swing need end with the correct person on
the right.

-Chris Page
San Diego, CA


On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 11:32 AM, Susan Pleck via Callers
 wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I'm to lead a workshop/extended intro lesson at a local dance this Saturday
> on gender-free dancing/dancing the "other" role/switching roles.  Not having
> done this before, I'd appreciate any thoughts or advice about what this
> should include.  For the gender-free aspect, I'm not sure there's much to
> discuss, really; ir'd be more just giving dancers a chance to practice
> responding to different terms.  For dancing the other role, though, what
> points of emphasis do you think would be most useful?  Two that come to mind
> are swing positioning/giving weight, and figures such as a chain where the
> actions of the two roles are different.
>
> thank you!
> Susan Pleck
> Oakland, CA
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Re: [Callers] Grand Square in a contra?

[Chris Page via Callers]

The popular four-face-four is "Grand Square Contra"
There's also
"McQuillen Fancy" by Tony Saletan
"Bloom One" by Al Olson
"To Hans T" by Birgit Rasmussen
"To Torsten" by Birgit Rasmussen


There's a grid square by Bob Isaacs called "Grand Square Grid".

There's some contras that try and give the feel of Grand Square:
Bases Loaded
Fatal Attraction (Ravitz)
Mini Grand Swing (Hemphill)
Petite Square Contra (Tom Senior)
Square Off Reel (Gaudreau)
To Mette T (Rasumussen)

-Chris Page
San Diego

Re: [Callers] Reverse R/L thru?

[Chris Page via Callers]

For a), there's a couple of gender-swapped right and left throughs:.

"Convolution 2" by Merri Rudd
"House Husband's Reel" by Eric Conrad
"Jackson's Hornpipe" (traditional)
"Just Elegance" by Chris Page
"Pleasantly Surprised" by David Smukler
"Tuesday Child" by Brian Jones
"Women in Charge" by Melanie Axel-Lute
"Worth the Wait" by Tom Hinds

I don't know any in case b). It'd be awful confusing, kind of like a
petronella turn to the left, as there's nothing in the set-up of the
move  to force a clockwise courtesy turn.

In category c):
(often pairs of proper right and left throughs with different people
one the left/right at different times)

"Crestwood Reel" (traditional)
"The Double Plow" by Al Olson
"Double Plow #4" by Al Olson
"Elegance and Simplicity" (traditional)
"New Mountain Contra" by Al Olson
"On Alternate Sides" by Al Olson
"Path to the Past" by Chris Page
"Up to My Ears in Right and Left" by Larry Jennings

-Chris Page
San Diego, CA

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 8:04 AM, Maia McCormick via Callers
 wrote:
> Have you all encountered or written dances for a "reverse R/L through"?

Re: [Callers] here it is - sorry

[Chris Page via Callers]

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 7:55 AM, Michael Fuerst via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

>
> You owe everyone on this list an apology
>
>
>
And that's the problem right there. Demanding apologies or insisting people
will change their mind if you just reword things slightly is how the very
recent Facebook thread on gypsies piled up well over 100 messages per day.
At least till the thread's originator presumably deleted the entire thread
in exasperation.

Despite one's strongly held beliefs, there are others on the Internet who
hold contrary beliefs, and you're not guaranteed to change their minds. Or
any on-lookers, who after a certain point have abandoned the flame war's
sinking ship.

Contra is a folk process anyways, with not everyone even agreeing on
whether it's a "neighbor swing" or "corner swing" or "swing the one below."

And yet, people still contra dance.

-Chris Page
San Diego, CA

https://xkcd.com/386/

Re: [Callers] Fw: Novelty & Gimmick Contras

[Chris Page via Callers]

Keeping things fairly simple, here's some that I use:

Promenade the set:
Mesach's March (Tony Parkes)
Moody Street (Sue Rosen)
Jack's Gay Gordons Promenade (Jan Larsen)
Walk the Walk (Bob Isaacs)

Entire set circling:
CDS Reel (Ted Sannella)
To Turn a Phrase (Bob Isaacs)

Dublin Bay Down-the-hall Figure
Leaving Home (Al Olson)
Handsome Young Maids (Sue Rosen)

Gypsy Star
Woven Waves (Cary Ravitz)
Trip to IHOP (Danner Claflin)
My Hungarian Gypsy Star (Jim Hemphill)
Gypsy Madness (Bob Isaacs)

Hey for Three
A Delicate Balance (David Smukler)

Three Ladies Chain
TLC Tempest (Chris Page)

Pousette
Trust (Chris Page)

Gates
Bingham's Pie (David Smukler)
Kinematic Vorticity (Carol Ormand)

Swinging Star
Sanders' Swing (Chris Page)

Arch and pop under
Three's a Crowd (Paul Balliet/Lisa Greenleaf)

Basket swing
Mermaid's Basket (Gene Hubert)

Mountaineer loop
Partner's Delight (Judy Ogden?)

Birdie in the Cage
Square Peg in a Round Hole (Elio Lewis)

Single file Promenade
Travels with Rick and Kim (Shari Miller-Johnson)

Sashay
Gallop Speed (Chris Page) (a little tougher because of the double
progression)

-Chris Page
San Diego, CA








On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Rich Sbardella via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Mac,
> That is really what I was thinking of.
> Unique or seldom used figures.  (I call Roll Over Johannes with a rip 'n
> snort.)
> Add to that unusual sequences and progressions.
> Rich
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Mac Mckeever via Callers <
> callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
>> I don't think of those as novelty - but more dances with unique or seldom
>> used figures
>>
>> A couple that come to mind without digging too deep
>>
>> Gold Star Wednesday - by Dale Wilson - has a square dance figure that I
>> have not seen in any other contra
>> Deep Well by Kathy Anderson - unique way to get into a star
>> Down by the Riverside - Melony Axle Lute - fun 3 face 3
>> A Valentine Surprise - Eric Hoffman - recently posted on this group - has
>> large set prominade
>>
>> Mac McKeever
>>
>>
>>
>> - Forwarded Message -
>> *From:* Rich Sbardella via Callers 
>> *To:* Caller's discussion list ;
>> trad-dance-call...@yahoogroups.com
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 16, 2016 1:13 PM
>> *Subject:* [Callers] Novelty & Gimmick Contras
>>
>> Here I am with another question.  I learn so much from these threads.
>>
>> What are some easy, but good, novelty, or gimmick contras.  To elaborate,
>> I mean contras that have unusual moves, or contras that use basic moves in
>> unusual ways.
>>
>> Maybe Ovals, Wholeset Promenades, Old-Timey square dance moves?
>> Two of my favorites are "Hot Buttered Rolls" and "Roll Over Johannes"
>>
>> Rich Sbardella
>> Stafford, CT
>>
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Re: [Callers] Contras for Slip Jigs - other than Fan in the Doorway?

[Chris Page via Callers]

Rick Mohr has "The Joy of Six", also AABBCC.

Then there's a number that are AABB

Mark Richardson has written several: "Hardiman the Fiddler", "Here's to 40
More", "Another Jig Will Do", "The Peacock Follows the Hen."

Yoyo Zhou has written at least two: "Green Dreams" and "Waxmyrtle."

Martha Wild has done "Mad, Mad World" to slip jigs by removing the gypsies.

And I've written and tested ten:

http://chrispagecontra.awardspace.us/dances/dlist2.htm#slip%20jig%20contras

(It's been an interest of mine.)

-Chris Page
San Diego, CA



On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 1:59 PM, The Witful Turnip via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

>
>
> Hi gang,
> Anyone know of any other contra dances written for slip jigs?  Please pass
> them along.
> Thanks so much,
> Bev
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Re: [Callers] Calling to a square dance crowd

[Chris Page via Callers]

I'd really recommend talking to the organizers. And possibly watching one
of their normal events.

Here's some of my thoughts on potential biggies:

-You and the band will likely need to supply and run your own sound system.

-Many people will likely keep the same partner throughout the evening.

-The expected flow of the evening is very different -- typically they're
used to doing two dances with the same partner of about 6-10 (?) minutes,
and then a rest break. Potentially involving snacks. Rinse and repeat.

-Swings are neither expected nor required. Without further instruction,
they'll go just once around, twirl, and stop.

-Be very careful about too much consecutive clockwise motion.

-You may have to adjust for the age level of the group. In general, MWSD
groups tend to be older.

-They're really not used to hearing the phrase of the music.

-Dropping out the calls may be traumatic for some.

-Contra is much more aerobic than squares.

Good luck,
-Chris Page
San Diego, CA

On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 3:28 PM, Joseph Erhard-Hudson via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> I've been pretty low-key on calling for several years now, just a few
> local dances a year. Years ago I did close to one gig a month at home and
> around my local region, but cut back due to busy life. Now I've accepted an
> invitation for a regular gig that's going to be a bit different, so I'm
> back on this email list, and I seek your advice.
>
> A few people from the nearby Western Square Dance group came to one of our
> local contra dances where I was calling, and had such a fun time they have
> invited me, and the band from that evening, to come and do a monthly series
> in their hall, promoted and sponsored by them. The band and I decided we'd
> give it a shot.
>
> I've had barely any exposure to Western Square Dance, but I know their
> education system is formalized, calling is improvised, and the music is
> mostly recorded; whereas in contra dancing the education is more by
> assimilation, the calling is mostly fixed within a given dance, and the
> music is live and improvised. I anticipate we may feel like strange cousins
> to each other. Do any of you have any experiences or thoughts about
> crossing over into this parallel universe of traditional dancers? I'm
> particularly concerned about how I can best help them feel comfortable with
> the way Contra Dance is done, and how I can be a gracious presence in their
> space.
>
> Bonus question: they want to know how to split the gate, since they don't
> have experience paying bands. Your thoughts?
>
> Best regards,
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Re: [Callers] Easy petronella with long lines

[Chris Page via Callers]

Bristol Turns, by John Nance.

You could turn the balance and swing to do-si-do and swing.

-Chris Page
San Diego, CA

On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 6:53 PM, Alexandra Deis-Lauby via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> I've had a request for a dance for a flash mob that has petronellas, Long
> lines, and if possible, a do si do.  Most of the people learning it are
> folk dancers but not contra dancers.
> Does such dance exist?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
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Re: [Callers] recognize this dance?

[Chris Page via Callers]

"Rings and Things" by Tom Lehmann.

-Chris Page
San Diego, CA

On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 7:21 AM, jwcontrahands4 via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> hi,
> I'm new to the list.  Is there an archive of old discussions?  Also, does
> anybody recognize this dance sequence?
>
> improper duple
> a1:circle left, swing neighbor
> a2:women chain, half hey W right shoulder
> b1: partner balance and swing
> b2: balance a ring, petronella spin right, balance ring again, partner
> calif twirl
>
> It's so generic that I can't believe that it hasn't been invented already.
>
>
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Re: [Callers] That g word

[Chris Page via Callers]

On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 6:10 PM, Aahz Maruch via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Sounds like you're policing what other people choose to spend their time
> on.  Oddly enough, I've seen comments like yours countless times when the
> subject lands on sexism, racism, homophobia, and so on.  What I find
> especially interesting is that these types of comments are louder when
> it's a subject that isn't "generally recognized" to be hurtful.  In my
> own lifetime, I've watched the discussion shift significantly when the
> subject is homophobia, and I currently watch appalled as fatphobia is
> still considered acceptable (with constant deprecatory comments similar
> to yours).
>


Or we're just tired of hearing the same arguments back and forth. Does one
person's sixth email on the same topic really help?

(See also long conversations from October 2015, November 2015, and hundreds
of Facebook posts.)

There's times when you reach a point where you won't convince each other
for now. Meanwhile it drowns out a once productive list into raw noise.

I'm now skimming the archives back from a few years ago, and miss the days
when there was more discussion of various topics. The list was originally
created to well, to do this:

http://www.sharedweight.net/index.php?pagestate=about

Curmudgeonly,
-Chris Page
San Diego, CA

Re: [Callers] Fwd: Petronella spin, no chain or allemande?

[Chris Page via Callers]

One or more petronellas without chains, allemandes, gypsies, or
immediately followed by a swing:


A Cactus for Kacie (LeGrone)
Arrythmia (Flaherty)
Capulets Welcome (Donforth)
Don't Let Her Go (Nordson)
Dopeca (Sweeney)
Dryden Lake (Leslie)
Flurry (Flaherty)
Fun With Alex (Leslie)
Get Your Twirl On (Nordson)
Ho Ho Ho (Flaherty)
In the Swim (Isaacs)
The Itchy Bug Reel (Hemphill)
Love at First Swing (Isaacs)
Lover's Circle (Flaherty)
Millbrae (Zhou)
Molaro (Flaherty)
Mountain Ridge (Boyer)
Mystery Dance #4 (Leslie)
Newlywed's Jig (Widmer)
On the Red Line (Gorrindo)
Out Bound (Flaherty)
Paper Plate #8: Ring of Fire (Graham)
Passable Petronella (Donforth)
Petronella's Pin (Colestock)
Remebering Alan (Meechan)
Rory O'Nella (Grisanti)
Somerville Strut (Blechner)
Spring Break (Fredland)
Square Peg in a Round Hole (Lewis)
Thank God It's Monday! (Isaacs)
The Weaving Wyandottes (Hemphill)
Trance (Flaherty)
Twirling Nella (Donforth)
Untitled alternating Dixie twirl petronella (Zhou)
Valentine Stomp (Larsen)
Winter Wind (Ravitz)


Cheers,
-Chris Page
San Diego



















On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 7:21 PM, Ron Blechner via Callers
 wrote:
> Thanks for all the suggestions, all.
>
> Heartbeat Contra is a very good one, a favorite of many, and in my box. I
> guess I should have specified "no gypsy" as well.
>
> I have Newlywed's Jig - perhaps I don't call that enough.
>
> Petronella’s Pin and Fun With Alex seem like no-brainers to add, and Love at
> First Swing as a nice fairly-easy-but-something-unusual dance. (I personally
> don't like the petronella-to-swing, sorry Bob!)
>
> Anything with 4 Petronella spins doesn't really fit my programming style.
>
> Best,
> Ron
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Linda Leslie 
> Date: Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 10:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [Callers] Petronella spin, no chain or allemande?
> To: Ron Blechner 
> Cc: callers 
>
>
> Here are a couple for you.
> Warmly, Linda
>
>
> Petronella’s Pin
> by Dave Colestock
> Contra/Improper/Easy
>
> A1 ---
> Ring Balance, Petronella spin
> Ring Balance, Petronell spin
> A2 ---
> Ring Balance
> Neighbor swing
> B1 ---
> Give & Take to ladies side & swing
> B2 ---
> Circle left three-quarters
> Ring Balance
> Pass thru
>
> Newlywed's Jig
> by Mark Widmer
> Contra/Improper/Easy
>
> A1 ---
> Long Lines Forward and Back
> Neighbor Swing
> A2 ---
> Circle left three-quarters
> Gents do si do*
> B1 ---
> Partner Balance and Swing
> B2 ---
> Ring Balance, Pet Twirl
> Ring Balance
> Ladies roll away with a half sashay with neighbor (to the left)
>
> Love at First Swing
> by Bob Isaacs
> Contra/Improper/Easy
>
> A1 ---
> (8) Balance the ring and twirl to the right
> (8) Balance the ring and twirl to the right
> A2 ---
> Balance the Ring
> California Twirl
> New Neighbor swing
> B1 ---
> Circle Left 3/4
> Partner swing
> B2 ---
> Down the hall, four in line
> Gent #2 Right hand high, left low, gent 1 TA
> Return*  (bend the line and restart the dance with these N’s)
>
> Lanny's Back
> by Erik Weberg
> Contra/Improper/Int
>
> A1 ---
> Neghbor gypsy  (Or B)
> (8) Neighbor swing
>
>
>
> A2 ---
> (8) Circle Left 3/4
> (8) Partner swing
> B1 ---
> Ring Balance
> Ladies cross by the right
> Ring Balance
> Gents cross by the right
> B2 ---
> Ring Balance
> Petronella twirl
> Ring Balance
> California Twirl
>
> Fun with Alex
> by Linda Leslie
> Contra/Becket-CW/Int
>
> A1 ---
> Long lines forward & back
> Circle left three-quarters (Flatten to a wave)
> A2 ---
> Balance the wave
> Walk forward
> New Neighbor swing (face across)
> B1 ---
> Ring Balance
> Partner roll away across the ring
> Ring Balance   Petronella twirl
> B2 ---
> Partner Balance & Swing
>
> Cure for the Claps,The
> by Bob Isaacs
> Contra/Improper/Easy-Int
>
> A1 ---
> Ring Balance, Petronella twirl
> Partner Swing
> A2 ---
> Ring Balance, Petronella twirl
> Neighbor Swing
> B1 ---
> Four in line down the hall, turn alone, return
> B2 ---
> Circle left once
> Ring Balance
> California Twirl
>
> On Dec 13, 2015, at 10:13 PM, Ron Blechner via Callers
>  wrote:
>
> Any suggestions for your favorite easy or intermediate Petronella spin dance
> with no chain, no allemandes?
>
> Thanks,
> Ron Blechner
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Re: [Callers] Dances with R & L Thru

[Chris Page via Callers]

A few more:

A Bevy of Butterflies (Bob Isaacs/Chris Page)
Brimmer and May Reel (Dan Pearl)
Gene's Genius (Tony Parkes)
Goosebumps (Bob Isaacs)
Graceful Reel (Jan Larsen)
Little Girl With the Curl (Bob Isaacs)
Love thy Neighbor (Bill Pope)
R VIII (Steve Zakon-Anderson)
Right Thought (Yoyo Zhou)
Rod's Grits (Bill Olson)
Sweet Treats (Bob Isaacs)
True Grit (Chris Page)

-Chris Page
San Diego, CA

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 5:22 AM, Rich Sbardella via Callers
 wrote:
> I am looking for a few good contras with a R & L Thru that do not contain a
> Ladies chain.  Any suggestions?
> Peace,
> Rich
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Re: [Callers] Advice about "gypsy"

[Chris Page via Callers]

"Gypsy" comes from Cecil Sharp, when he was trying to name a figure that
appeared in the literature of two dancers going around each other.

My hearsay understanding is that he named it after some Romani dances he
knew of where partners didn't touch each other.

-Chris Page
San Diego, CA

On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 12:12 AM, Amy Wimmer via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> I taught a dance this evening that included a ladies' gypsy. I received
> the email below a few minutes ago. In teaching it I wanted to convey that
> it is a flirty, eye contact sort of move. This person was obviously
> offended. I am at a loss for how to respond, except to apologize for
> offending.
>
> I'm pretty sure I described the move accurately. I meant absolutely no
> offense. I didn't make up the name for the move, but don't want to make
> excuses. Does this move need a new name? How would you respond?
>
> -Amy
> Seattle
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *Subject:* *First time at your event*
>
> This evening, I came to one of your dances for the first time. I was
> impressed by the friendliness of the dancers, the quality of the musicians,
> and the overall fun of the dance.
>
> And then we got to a dance in which we were told we would be learning a
> step named after an offensive term for Romani people. And I felt
> uncomfortable. And then when the step was taught, it became clear that the
> term was so named based on stereotypes of Romani women as being overly
> sexual. And I became more uncomfortable.
>
> I assume that this was not done maliciously, but rather out of an
> unawareness of the ways that that term has been used to denigrate Romani
> people throughout history (much the same way that many other racial slurs
> have been used in the past by well-meaning people before they became aware
> that those terms were hurtful and harmful to those disadvantaged groups).
>
> Nonetheless, it felt shockingly offensive to me, all the more so in the
> context of a community that appeared to be so welcoming and accepting.
>
> Until that point, I had a very enjoyable time dancing at your event. I've
> been a dancer in a variety of communities for many years now, and aside
> from that issue, this was probably the best first experience I've had when
> meeting a new dance community. It was a shame that some presumably
> unintentional racial insensitivity had to ruin what was otherwise such a
> positive experience.
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Re: [Callers] shadow swings

[Chris Page via Callers]

And yet, they're done. I know Carol Ormand writes and calls them. This
Saturday at the contra weekend I attended, a national caller called "Head
of the Bed."

Yes, we've heard your opinion. Avoiding shadow swings be perfect for you,
but it may not be for others. And I'd like to hear from the others, rather
than having you (or someone else) try and shut down the conversation by
repeatedly making absolute statements.

There is more than one correct point of view.

(Personally I almost never** use shadow swings, so I don't have much to
contribute to this particular conversation. But I enjoy listening to
others.)


-Chris Page
San Diego

** And yet I'm guilty of having written one, and called it at NEFFA. I've
got my own hypocrisy.



On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Michael Fuerst 
wrote:

> Chris:  The indicates that someone in 2008 (Dave Eisenstadter) other than
> the composer (Nils Fredland)  not call this dance written in 2003.
> Everyone has become more aware since then.
> One wonders if Nils still calls this dance
>
> Michael Fuerst  802 N Broadway  Urbana IL 61801  217 239 5844
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, September 9, 2015 4:38 PM, Chris Page 
> wrote:
>
>
> Sigh. See "Head of the Bed", written by Nils Fredland.
>
> http://www.library.unh.edu/special/forms/rpdlw/syllabus2008.pdf#page=49b
>
> -Chris Page
> San Diego
>
>

Re: [Callers] shadow swings

[Chris Page via Callers]

Sigh. See "Head of the Bed", written by Nils Fredland.

http://www.library.unh.edu/special/forms/rpdlw/syllabus2008.pdf#page=49b

-Chris Page
San Diego



On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Michael Fuerst via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> David:Really, would you ever call a dance with a shadow swing?
>
> None of our most respected caller (those who are invited as the featured
> caller at various weekends)   never (or darned close to never).
> I don't ever  recall attending a weekend  when the featured caller used a
> shadow swing.
>
> Michael Fuerst  802 N Broadway  Urbana IL 61801  217 239 5844
>
>
>
>

Re: [Callers] counterclockwise momentum?

[Chris Page via Callers]

Here's a starter list of counterclockwise moves:

Circle right
Allemande left
Star left
Seesaw
Star promenade when the center person has left hands
Gypsy left
Counterclockwise roll away
Rory o' More spin to the left
Swat the flea

Also pretty much:
Ladies chain
Right and left through
Promenade
Hey (passing right in the center)
Contra corners

For half the dancers:
Orbit
Square through
Crosstrails through
Half figure eight
California twirl/star through

-Chris Page
San Diego


On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Lindsey Dono via Callers <
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> Hi Callers,
>
> There are a number of dances that have significant clockwise momentum; I
> try to label such dances so I don't call them back to back. However, I'd
> like to identify a collection of dances with the *least* clockwise movement
> (beyond swinging in the other direction).
>
> Which moves are CCW? I realize that this depends somewhat on how the move
> is danced.
>
>  Have you IDed any dances as particularly good to call after a very
> clockwise one?
>
> Thanks!
> Lindsey
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Re: [Callers] Origins of East Meets West

[Chris Page via Callers]

Herbie Gaudreau had a monthly column "Contra Corner" in the square dance
magazine, "The New England Caller" from 1955 to roughly 1967. That magazine
is now archived online:

http://www.sdfne.org/Default.aspx?TabId=373
http://www.squaredance.ws/

The down-the-hall version appears in the May 1955 issue, page 33.

The ladies chain version appears in the November 1960 issue, page 48. It's
marked as "East Meets West (revised)".

There might be more info in Gaudreau's book, "Modern Contra Dancing,"
though I don't have a copy.

-Chris Page
San Diego, CA

Re: [Callers] Itty-bitty dances, triplets, odd numbers

[Chris Page via Callers]

Beneficial Triplet by Al Olson. A very nice one.

-Chris Page
San Diego


On Friday, May 8, 2015, jill allen via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Kalia,
>
> Since no one has mentioned it and to honor Larry Jennings, I will share
> this triplet I love with a zipper!  That is, I am pretty sure it's written
> by Larry.  Does anyone know the title?
> Jill Allen
>
> Triplet (by Larry Jennings?)
> proper
>
> A1 all pass ptr by RH
> all who can, pass person on L diag by LH
> all pass person straight across by RH
> L diag by LH
> A2  across by RH
> L diag by LH
> bal ptr, box the gnat
> B1 B & S ptr ending proper
> B2  bottom cpl lead up the middle, turn alone and lead back down the middle
> cast with 2nd (now at bottom) cpl to end in 2nd place*
>
> *end:  33
> 11
> 22
>
>
> On May 3, 2015, at 2:53 PM, Kalia Kliban via Callers wrote:
>
> I just called a tiny dance last night, and went through several of my
> triplets along with a big pile of English 3-couple dances that we did to
> old-time tunes (that was a little weird for me but the dancers enjoyed
> them, so what the heck).  I was grateful to have the few triplets I had,
> and I'd like to expand my collection.  The ones I used were Microchasmic,
> David's Triplet #7 and Ted's Triplet #24, which all have distinctive bits
> in them (contra corners, round two/drop through, and a cast to invert then
> 1s lead up, respectively).  I like triplets that have some choreographic
> substance to them, something for the dancers to chew on.
>
> Do you have favorites you enjoy dancing as well as calling?  I get the
> impression sometimes that triplets are "that thing you do to fill time
> until the real dancing starts," but 3-couple sets can be a whole lot of
> fun.  And sometimes they can save your butt as a caller.
>
> We had lots of odd numbers last night, so in addition to the triplets and
> 3-couple English dances I used dances like Domino 5 (5 dancers) and Pride
> of Dingle (for 9).  For a short while we had 4 couples and did contras but
> most of the evening was "other."  Got any good dances for odd numbers?
>
> Kalia
>
>
>

Re: [Callers] Chinese Fan from Square dance

[Chris Page via Callers]

Another thing to consider is progressing on to the next. Chinese Fan
is fuzzy about where moves end, as the star turns. So you need to have
dancers promenade "to progressed places", rather than just circling
halfway or some such. I've found dancers have great trouble with this,
at least partly because 4-face-4 is an uncommon formation, so they
can't just progress by autopilot.

Some of my biggest and most memorable crashes when testing dances have
resulted from this problem.

-Chris Page
San Diego

Re: [Callers] Anyone seen this dance?

[Chris Page via Callers]

This is very similar to "Random Acts of Kindness" by David Glick. (See
the 2003 RPDLW syllabus.)

"Random Acts" adds long lines before the chain, and cuts 8 beats off
the partner swing.

-Chris Page
San Diego

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 5:25 PM, Perry Shafran via Callers
 wrote:
> Since folks generally check here to see whether dance compositions have
> already been written, I thought I might as well.  Tentatively calling this
> "Charm City Contra".
>
> Becket dance
>
> A1 Circle L 3/4
> Pass thru, swing next N
> A2 L chn
> LH star
> B1 Al rt shadow #1 to wavy line, gents facing in
> Bal wave, spin rt
> B2  Bal & Sw P
>
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Re: [Callers] Recognize this dance?

[Chris Page via Callers]

Wind in the Grass by Tom Calwell.

-Chris Page
San Diego

On Monday, April 27, 2015, Tepfer, Seth via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Anyone know title/author of this dance?
> Formation: Becket
>
> A1 - Face old neighbors across set. Women walk forward to a wavy line,
> while men walk backward to a long wavy line with men in next set. Balance
> the waves.
> Allemande right 1 1/4 with person in your right hand. If no one in your
> right hand, stay where you are.
> A2 - Hey on right diagonal(neighbor pass left)
> B1 - Neighbor balance and swing
> B2 - Circle left 3/4, partner swing.
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Re: [Callers] How Would You Teach This Hey?

[Chris Page via Callers]

There's a few weave-the-line to hey transitions.

Bob Isaacs (in "From Here to Infinity"?) has you follow the momentum
of the weave-the-line to interact with the person on the side, letting
go just a little early. If the weave the line was with your partner,
and it was a zig left, zag right progression, then the first hey pass
would be neighbor right.

I experimented last month with a Joyride-type hey entry (pousette,
weave the line, and couples do-si-do are very similiar), where the
center people curve around each other. In this case you'd step to a
left-handed wave, and the center people would curve around each other
by passing right shoulders. (The experiment didn't quite work because
a lot of dancers panicked by progressing indecently. But a similar
type-thing is on my site called "Slalom Slide".)

But you've got a slightly different entry, where you break a little
earlier, and centers pass each other face-to-face to start the hey.
Teaching this is ... tricky, but it reads like it flows well.

It's interesting how many different hey entries work. For me it's the
timing that's the most challenging with the weave the line/hey
transition.

-Chris Page
San Diego

On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Don Veino via Callers
 wrote:
> Another recent composition (thanks to Luke for getting me thinking about
> Zig-Zags!), called this to good feedback earlier this month.
>
> Only tricky part of the teaching was the A2 through B1 Hey entry... how
> would you teach this? I generally hate breaking the flow of a dance in a
> walk-through if possible to maintain it, but some folks got lost when I
> first taught it as "...Hey - Gents pass left shoulders across, Pass Partner
> Right..."
>
> My current thinking is to form a teaching-only wave across with Gents by
> left in center, have them note the side Gent is on (will Swing P back here
> when meet second time), drop hands and start the Hey.
>
> Thanks,
> -Don
>
> PS: At least one dancer needed re-assurance that passing through in reverse
> of progression was correct the first time around. :)
>
> Hey, Let's Zig-Zag!
> [Type]: Contra[Formation]: Duple Improper[Author]: Don Veino
> [Status]: DV::
> [Comments]: Zig-Zag into Hey dance (first of it's kind?). Tricky two
> forward, one back progression.
> ::
> [A1]:
> (4,12) NEIGHBOR BALANCE, SWING
> ::
> [A2]:
> (4,4) CIRCLE LEFT 1/2, Ladies lead P ZIG LEFT [past CURRENT Ns]
> (4) ZAG RIGHT [passing NEXT Ns, to face 3rd Ns] and SEPARATE from P
> #PROGRESSION 1&2
> (4) HEY 1/8, GENTS START BY LEFT [across set, GL, PR, etc.]
> ::
> [B1]:
> (8) HALF HEY [so 5/8 total, until meet P 2nd time]
> (8) PARTNER SWING [on Lady's home side]
> ::
> [B2]:
> (4,4) RING BALANCE, LADIES ROLL GENTS [DIAGONALLY back-to-back across set,
> NO Half Sashay] *OR* Alternate: Gents Cross by Right
> (4,4) RING BALANCE, PASS THROUGH [Up/Dn] in REVERSE of progression
> #DE-PROGRESSION
> ::
> [Notes]: TEACH - NEVER OUT - do what those in the dance want you to do at
> ends! End effects TBC, but expect it is to wait out with Lady on Left ready
> to Zag right towards the Hey.
> Can have dancers swap places up/down with their N after hands-4 - this is
> the direction they'll come into the A1 Balance. Linda Leslie suggested a B2
> Gents cross in place of my original draft's Gents See-Saw 1+1/2, added a
> Gents Roll Away option for more connection.::
> [Tunes]: ::
> [Provenance]: From author. Composed 2/23/2015. First called Scout House
> 3/9/15 with Gents Cross in B2::
> [Tags]: DI, Intermediate-Advanced, DV::
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Re: [Callers] New Dance: Dirty Rotten Double Crosser

[Chris Page via Callers]

On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Aahz Maruch via Callers
 wrote:

> You definitely need to be careful explaining this -- I think of Cross
> Trail as leaving dancers facing the same direction, although your variant
> is also common.  (No idea which is more common, particularly given the
> collapse of "Cross Trail" in general.)
>

Cross Trails facing the same direction is something I've only
encountered in the MWSD Callerlab Advanced definitions. (And even
there, I understand, that decision was contentious.) Every instance
I've seen in a contra dance of crosstrails through has dancers facing
the next. (Pass right across, face along, pass left along the set, and
on to the next.)

My main concern with the dance is the timing. Four beats is fast,
though at least you can steal some timing from the balances.

-Chris Page
San Diego
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Re: [Callers] Giant dance database?

[Chris Page via Callers]

During the recent caller's survey, I think a database of dances was at
the top of the list of what online resource callers wanted.

There have been several attempts at creating a dance database over the
past decade-plus. They have all fizzled out, primarily for lack of
volunteers with sufficient drive, free time, and coding experience to
create such a beast.

(Data entry and getting permissions requires less technical skill, and
can be farmed out amongst a larger committee.)

-Chris Page
San Diego

On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Maia McCormick via Callers
 wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm currently in programming school casting about for programming projects,
> and I had the idea of a giant searchable contradance database, where you can
> filter by move combination, etc.
>
> My question: is this something people would be interested in having? Or does
> it run the risk of infringing on intellectual property, or shortchanging
> dance writers on book sales, etc.? (Obviously no dances would be included
> without the author's permission, but it may be that making a huge ton of
> dances freely available and searchable in one place online would be a death
> blow to published books of dances, or have some other negative effect I'm
> not foreseeing right now...)
>
> Anyway: does anyone have any thoughts on this project?
>
> Cheers,
> Maia
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