Re: restful camping with reststop
I actually have a reststop app up and running fine with Camping 2.0 (check
out Taskr at http://github.com/zuk/taskr). Tthe catch is that it's a version
of 2.0 that I forked about this time last year, and looking at the github
graph, Magnus has committed a whole slew of changes since then. So whatever
broke Reststop must have been committed in the last 10 months or so.
To be honest over the last year I've mostly switched form Camping to Sinatra
(and lately to Node.js, which is really really cool by the way). The problem
with Camping, for me, is that trying to extend it is a nightmare. I learned
this the hard way while writing Reststop and Picnic.
Anyway I have a bit of time right now, so since there seems to be some
interest, I'll pull down the latest version of Camping and see if I can make
it work with Reststop. I should also move Reststop to github while I'm at
it.
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Philippe Monnet r...@monnet-usa.comwrote:
Hi David,
I had played with RESTstop on the old Camping maybe six months ago.
I have now started to take a look at what the issues are about.
So far I have found a few things like:
In reststop.rb:
- the service method needs to retrieve the REQUEST_METHOD using
@env['REQUEST_METHOD']
-the condition on the if statement on the last m.capture line of the
render method needs to be adjusted (not sure what a[0] should be replaced
with. So far I have temporarily replaced the line by:
s = m.capture{send(:layout){s}} if m.respond_to?(:layout)
In the blog.rb example
- the version number for camping needs to be updated
- require 'camping/db' should be removed since now obsolete
- require 'markaby' needs to be added
So far I can bring up the app in a browser, login, add a post.
But if I use Restr I can only do a GET. The PUT currently fails with a 401.
I will continue to try figuring it out over the next week or so.
It would be great if the initial author could help us out.
Philippe
On 3/12/2010 8:04 AM, David Susco wrote:
Has anyone managed to get camping to work with reststop using 1.9.354?
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Re: restful camping with reststop
I find extending Camping apps to be quite easy, since it's all classes and
modules, but I can understand that extending Camping itself can be
difficult/weird. That said, I think a lot can be solved by defining
#included and #extended. It would be great if you could tell us a bit
exactly the problems you faced. We still have 1k left.
Don't hurry, though. Let's get 2.0 out first.
// Magnus Holm
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 16:07, Matt Zukowski m...@roughest.net wrote:
I actually have a reststop app up and running fine with Camping 2.0 (check
out Taskr at http://github.com/zuk/taskr). Tthe catch is that it's a
version of 2.0 that I forked about this time last year, and looking at the
github graph, Magnus has committed a whole slew of changes since then. So
whatever broke Reststop must have been committed in the last 10 months or
so.
To be honest over the last year I've mostly switched form Camping to
Sinatra (and lately to Node.js, which is really really cool by the way). The
problem with Camping, for me, is that trying to extend it is a nightmare. I
learned this the hard way while writing Reststop and Picnic.
Anyway I have a bit of time right now, so since there seems to be some
interest, I'll pull down the latest version of Camping and see if I can make
it work with Reststop. I should also move Reststop to github while I'm at
it.
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Philippe Monnet r...@monnet-usa.comwrote:
Hi David,
I had played with RESTstop on the old Camping maybe six months ago.
I have now started to take a look at what the issues are about.
So far I have found a few things like:
In reststop.rb:
- the service method needs to retrieve the REQUEST_METHOD using
@env['REQUEST_METHOD']
-the condition on the if statement on the last m.capture line of the
render method needs to be adjusted (not sure what a[0] should be replaced
with. So far I have temporarily replaced the line by:
s = m.capture{send(:layout){s}} if m.respond_to?(:layout)
In the blog.rb example
- the version number for camping needs to be updated
- require 'camping/db' should be removed since now obsolete
- require 'markaby' needs to be added
So far I can bring up the app in a browser, login, add a post.
But if I use Restr I can only do a GET. The PUT currently fails with a
401. I will continue to try figuring it out over the next week or so.
It would be great if the initial author could help us out.
Philippe
On 3/12/2010 8:04 AM, David Susco wrote:
Has anyone managed to get camping to work with reststop using 1.9.354?
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Re: What now?
Indeed, but for now I think http://stuff.judofyr.net/camping-docs/ (or, the URL would actually be camping.rubyforge.org when released) would be enough. I think we're pretty much ready for a release. If you'd like, I could mark HEAD as 2.0.rc1 and push it out to Gemcutter. Then you guys who have 2.0 apps could do a gem install camping --pre and make sure everything works. If everything seems fine we can release it :) // Magnus Holm On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 04:16, Philippe Monnet r...@monnet-usa.com wrote: I like the idea of the site being built on Camping and combining mini-apps and static content all integrated with jQuery for example. I am currently running two Camping 2.0 apps on Heroku and they work great. Hosting on Heroku would be also be convenient because of the ability to add Git contributors and because of the ease of deployment. On 3/21/2010 3:58 PM, Dave Everitt wrote: Hi Philippe I am one of those Camping friends (although I've been too busy with clients just lately to do much). Although I just posted links to your Camping 'add-ons' to the wiki :-) I agree about Sinatra - from curiosity I've even dabbled with it myself (shame!), although it is nice that Camping still has a small community feel. Perhaps some _why-type cartoons (along the lines you suggest) might be the right way forward for a 'This is Camping' website. Or just keep things clean and minimal. As for content, that was covered in another post to the list some time ago, as was a domain name. Magnus has the substance (tutorial, examples, etc.) and a nice CSS style for the blog example. Maybe start with a developed version of the Camping blog on Heroku (free) so we can each add Camping-related posts to keep things fresh? It's just making enough time to put it all together... I'd be happy to chip in, but what's the best way to build a whole site that uses Camping - a collection of apps and generated static pages? I once used Camping 1.5 (running as CGI) as an easy way to make a simple multipage wireframe mockup, but... Dave I was wondering how we can help with next steps? I keep seeing all the attention going to the Sinatra framework (and Rails of course) and would love to help more with promoting Camping. It would be great if one of our web designer / Camping friend could help create a catchy visual for the site. How about a night time view of a camp fire with a tent and maybe a small projector with a big silver screen where we could display rotating content / slides? Any other crazy concepts? Philippe ___ Camping-list mailing list Camping-list@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list ___ Camping-list mailing list Camping-list@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list ___ Camping-list mailing list Camping-list@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list
Re: restful camping with reststop
Hey Magnus, while we have your attention, in 2.0 how do I get access to
e['REQUEST_METHOD'] inside the 'service' method? Trying to figure this out
as we speak...
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Magnus Holm judo...@gmail.com wrote:
I find extending Camping apps to be quite easy, since it's all classes and
modules, but I can understand that extending Camping itself can be
difficult/weird. That said, I think a lot can be solved by defining
#included and #extended. It would be great if you could tell us a bit
exactly the problems you faced. We still have 1k left.
Don't hurry, though. Let's get 2.0 out first.
// Magnus Holm
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 16:07, Matt Zukowski m...@roughest.net wrote:
I actually have a reststop app up and running fine with Camping 2.0 (check
out Taskr at http://github.com/zuk/taskr). Tthe catch is that it's a
version of 2.0 that I forked about this time last year, and looking at the
github graph, Magnus has committed a whole slew of changes since then. So
whatever broke Reststop must have been committed in the last 10 months or
so.
To be honest over the last year I've mostly switched form Camping to
Sinatra (and lately to Node.js, which is really really cool by the way). The
problem with Camping, for me, is that trying to extend it is a nightmare. I
learned this the hard way while writing Reststop and Picnic.
Anyway I have a bit of time right now, so since there seems to be some
interest, I'll pull down the latest version of Camping and see if I can make
it work with Reststop. I should also move Reststop to github while I'm at
it.
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Philippe Monnet r...@monnet-usa.comwrote:
Hi David,
I had played with RESTstop on the old Camping maybe six months ago.
I have now started to take a look at what the issues are about.
So far I have found a few things like:
In reststop.rb:
- the service method needs to retrieve the REQUEST_METHOD using
@env['REQUEST_METHOD']
-the condition on the if statement on the last m.capture line of the
render method needs to be adjusted (not sure what a[0] should be replaced
with. So far I have temporarily replaced the line by:
s = m.capture{send(:layout){s}} if m.respond_to?(:layout)
In the blog.rb example
- the version number for camping needs to be updated
- require 'camping/db' should be removed since now obsolete
- require 'markaby' needs to be added
So far I can bring up the app in a browser, login, add a post.
But if I use Restr I can only do a GET. The PUT currently fails with a
401. I will continue to try figuring it out over the next week or so.
It would be great if the initial author could help us out.
Philippe
On 3/12/2010 8:04 AM, David Susco wrote:
Has anyone managed to get camping to work with reststop using 1.9.354?
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Re: restful camping with reststop
@env['REQUEST_METHOD'] is the HTTP method send by the client, @method is the
method (in lowercase) Camping is going to run (r404 for 404 etc.)
// Magnus Holm
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 17:01, Matt Zukowski m...@roughest.net wrote:
Hey Magnus, while we have your attention, in 2.0 how do I get access to
e['REQUEST_METHOD'] inside the 'service' method? Trying to figure this out
as we speak...
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Magnus Holm judo...@gmail.com wrote:
I find extending Camping apps to be quite easy, since it's all classes and
modules, but I can understand that extending Camping itself can be
difficult/weird. That said, I think a lot can be solved by defining
#included and #extended. It would be great if you could tell us a bit
exactly the problems you faced. We still have 1k left.
Don't hurry, though. Let's get 2.0 out first.
// Magnus Holm
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 16:07, Matt Zukowski m...@roughest.net wrote:
I actually have a reststop app up and running fine with Camping 2.0
(check out Taskr at http://github.com/zuk/taskr). Tthe catch is that
it's a version of 2.0 that I forked about this time last year, and looking
at the github graph, Magnus has committed a whole slew of changes since
then. So whatever broke Reststop must have been committed in the last 10
months or so.
To be honest over the last year I've mostly switched form Camping to
Sinatra (and lately to Node.js, which is really really cool by the way). The
problem with Camping, for me, is that trying to extend it is a nightmare. I
learned this the hard way while writing Reststop and Picnic.
Anyway I have a bit of time right now, so since there seems to be some
interest, I'll pull down the latest version of Camping and see if I can make
it work with Reststop. I should also move Reststop to github while I'm at
it.
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Philippe Monnet
r...@monnet-usa.comwrote:
Hi David,
I had played with RESTstop on the old Camping maybe six months ago.
I have now started to take a look at what the issues are about.
So far I have found a few things like:
In reststop.rb:
- the service method needs to retrieve the REQUEST_METHOD using
@env['REQUEST_METHOD']
-the condition on the if statement on the last m.capture line of the
render method needs to be adjusted (not sure what a[0] should be replaced
with. So far I have temporarily replaced the line by:
s = m.capture{send(:layout){s}} if m.respond_to?(:layout)
In the blog.rb example
- the version number for camping needs to be updated
- require 'camping/db' should be removed since now obsolete
- require 'markaby' needs to be added
So far I can bring up the app in a browser, login, add a post.
But if I use Restr I can only do a GET. The PUT currently fails with a
401. I will continue to try figuring it out over the next week or so.
It would be great if the initial author could help us out.
Philippe
On 3/12/2010 8:04 AM, David Susco wrote:
Has anyone managed to get camping to work with reststop using 1.9.354?
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Re: restful camping with reststop
Okay got it... but as I look at this a bit more, the ridiculous things I had
to do to make Reststop work (for Camping 1.0) are all coming back to me.
As I recall, the root of all evil was Camping#goes. I had to override it in
order to inject the Reststop code into Camping. Camping#qsp was the second
evil, and I see that it's now gone. I'm looking around now to see what
you've done to replace it (I take it Rack took care of some of that).
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Magnus Holm judo...@gmail.com wrote:
@env['REQUEST_METHOD'] is the HTTP method send by the client, @method is
the method (in lowercase) Camping is going to run (r404 for 404 etc.)
// Magnus Holm
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 17:01, Matt Zukowski m...@roughest.net wrote:
Hey Magnus, while we have your attention, in 2.0 how do I get access to
e['REQUEST_METHOD'] inside the 'service' method? Trying to figure this out
as we speak...
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Magnus Holm judo...@gmail.com wrote:
I find extending Camping apps to be quite easy, since it's all classes
and modules, but I can understand that extending Camping itself can be
difficult/weird. That said, I think a lot can be solved by defining
#included and #extended. It would be great if you could tell us a bit
exactly the problems you faced. We still have 1k left.
Don't hurry, though. Let's get 2.0 out first.
// Magnus Holm
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 16:07, Matt Zukowski m...@roughest.net wrote:
I actually have a reststop app up and running fine with Camping 2.0
(check out Taskr at http://github.com/zuk/taskr). Tthe catch is that
it's a version of 2.0 that I forked about this time last year, and looking
at the github graph, Magnus has committed a whole slew of changes since
then. So whatever broke Reststop must have been committed in the last 10
months or so.
To be honest over the last year I've mostly switched form Camping to
Sinatra (and lately to Node.js, which is really really cool by the way).
The
problem with Camping, for me, is that trying to extend it is a nightmare. I
learned this the hard way while writing Reststop and Picnic.
Anyway I have a bit of time right now, so since there seems to be some
interest, I'll pull down the latest version of Camping and see if I can
make
it work with Reststop. I should also move Reststop to github while I'm at
it.
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Philippe Monnet
r...@monnet-usa.comwrote:
Hi David,
I had played with RESTstop on the old Camping maybe six months ago.
I have now started to take a look at what the issues are about.
So far I have found a few things like:
In reststop.rb:
- the service method needs to retrieve the REQUEST_METHOD using
@env['REQUEST_METHOD']
-the condition on the if statement on the last m.capture line of the
render method needs to be adjusted (not sure what a[0] should be replaced
with. So far I have temporarily replaced the line by:
s = m.capture{send(:layout){s}} if m.respond_to?(:layout)
In the blog.rb example
- the version number for camping needs to be updated
- require 'camping/db' should be removed since now obsolete
- require 'markaby' needs to be added
So far I can bring up the app in a browser, login, add a post.
But if I use Restr I can only do a GET. The PUT currently fails with a
401. I will continue to try figuring it out over the next week or so.
It would be great if the initial author could help us out.
Philippe
On 3/12/2010 8:04 AM, David Susco wrote:
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Re: restful camping with reststop
Alright I spent a few hours trying to see if I can make things work with
2.0.
I was able to make some progress (mostly thanks to Magnus' help!) but ran
out of time before I could get things runnings.
Here's the result:
http://gist.github.com/341555
I'm not sure when I will get a chance in the near future to play around with
this again, but if someone wants to take it and run with it I'd be happy to
help.
Matt.
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Magnus Holm judo...@gmail.com wrote:
code = %q{
# This Ruby code will be called everytime Camping.goes is called.
# And Camping is replaced with the app module, so you can do stuff like:
def Camping.foo
puts Hello World!
end
# You probably just want to do:
module Camping
include MyExtension
end
}
# For Camping.goes
Camping::S code
# For previus Camping.goes
Camping::Apps.each { |app| app.module_eval(code.gsub(Camping, app.to_s))
}
As for qsp, it's replaced by Rack::Utils.parse_query. This creates a
regular Hash though, so I've written a Base#n to convert it to Camping::H.
# Before:
hash = Camping.qsp(hoho=1)
# Now: (inside an instance of a controller)
hash = n(Rack::Utils.parse_query(hoho=1))
// Magnus Holm
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 17:23, Matt Zukowski m...@roughest.net wrote:
Okay got it... but as I look at this a bit more, the ridiculous things I
had to do to make Reststop work (for Camping 1.0) are all coming back to me.
As I recall, the root of all evil was Camping#goes. I had to override it
in order to inject the Reststop code into Camping. Camping#qsp was the
second evil, and I see that it's now gone. I'm looking around now to see
what you've done to replace it (I take it Rack took care of some of that).
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Magnus Holm judo...@gmail.com wrote:
@env['REQUEST_METHOD'] is the HTTP method send by the client, @method is
the method (in lowercase) Camping is going to run (r404 for 404 etc.)
// Magnus Holm
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 17:01, Matt Zukowski m...@roughest.net wrote:
Hey Magnus, while we have your attention, in 2.0 how do I get access to
e['REQUEST_METHOD'] inside the 'service' method? Trying to figure this out
as we speak...
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Magnus Holm judo...@gmail.comwrote:
I find extending Camping apps to be quite easy, since it's all classes
and modules, but I can understand that extending Camping itself can be
difficult/weird. That said, I think a lot can be solved by defining
#included and #extended. It would be great if you could tell us a bit
exactly the problems you faced. We still have 1k left.
Don't hurry, though. Let's get 2.0 out first.
// Magnus Holm
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 16:07, Matt Zukowski m...@roughest.netwrote:
I actually have a reststop app up and running fine with Camping 2.0
(check out Taskr at http://github.com/zuk/taskr). Tthe catch is that
it's a version of 2.0 that I forked about this time last year, and
looking
at the github graph, Magnus has committed a whole slew of changes since
then. So whatever broke Reststop must have been committed in the last 10
months or so.
To be honest over the last year I've mostly switched form Camping to
Sinatra (and lately to Node.js, which is really really cool by the way).
The
problem with Camping, for me, is that trying to extend it is a
nightmare. I
learned this the hard way while writing Reststop and Picnic.
Anyway I have a bit of time right now, so since there seems to be some
interest, I'll pull down the latest version of Camping and see if I can
make
it work with Reststop. I should also move Reststop to github while I'm at
it.
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Philippe Monnet
r...@monnet-usa.com wrote:
Hi David,
I had played with RESTstop on the old Camping maybe six months ago.
I have now started to take a look at what the issues are about.
So far I have found a few things like:
In reststop.rb:
- the service method needs to retrieve the REQUEST_METHOD using
@env['REQUEST_METHOD']
-the condition on the if statement on the last m.capture line of
the render method needs to be adjusted (not sure what a[0] should be
replaced with. So far I have temporarily replaced the line by:
s = m.capture{send(:layout){s}} if m.respond_to?(:layout)
In the blog.rb example
- the version number for camping needs to be updated
- require 'camping/db' should be removed since now obsolete
- require 'markaby' needs to be added
So far I can bring up the app in a browser, login, add a post.
But if I use Restr I can only do a GET. The PUT currently fails with
a 401. I will continue to try figuring it out over the next week or so.
It would be great if the initial author could help us out.
Philippe
On 3/12/2010 8:04 AM, David Susco wrote:
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Re: restful camping with reststop
Sorry that link should be: http://gist.github.com/341555#file_reststop2.rb
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Matt Zukowski m...@roughest.net wrote:
Alright I spent a few hours trying to see if I can make things work with
2.0.
I was able to make some progress (mostly thanks to Magnus' help!) but ran
out of time before I could get things runnings.
Here's the result:
http://gist.github.com/341555
I'm not sure when I will get a chance in the near future to play around
with this again, but if someone wants to take it and run with it I'd be
happy to help.
Matt.
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Magnus Holm judo...@gmail.com wrote:
code = %q{
# This Ruby code will be called everytime Camping.goes is called.
# And Camping is replaced with the app module, so you can do stuff like:
def Camping.foo
puts Hello World!
end
# You probably just want to do:
module Camping
include MyExtension
end
}
# For Camping.goes
Camping::S code
# For previus Camping.goes
Camping::Apps.each { |app| app.module_eval(code.gsub(Camping, app.to_s))
}
As for qsp, it's replaced by Rack::Utils.parse_query. This creates a
regular Hash though, so I've written a Base#n to convert it to Camping::H.
# Before:
hash = Camping.qsp(hoho=1)
# Now: (inside an instance of a controller)
hash = n(Rack::Utils.parse_query(hoho=1))
// Magnus Holm
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 17:23, Matt Zukowski m...@roughest.net wrote:
Okay got it... but as I look at this a bit more, the ridiculous things I
had to do to make Reststop work (for Camping 1.0) are all coming back to me.
As I recall, the root of all evil was Camping#goes. I had to override it
in order to inject the Reststop code into Camping. Camping#qsp was the
second evil, and I see that it's now gone. I'm looking around now to see
what you've done to replace it (I take it Rack took care of some of that).
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Magnus Holm judo...@gmail.com wrote:
@env['REQUEST_METHOD'] is the HTTP method send by the client, @method is
the method (in lowercase) Camping is going to run (r404 for 404 etc.)
// Magnus Holm
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 17:01, Matt Zukowski m...@roughest.net wrote:
Hey Magnus, while we have your attention, in 2.0 how do I get access to
e['REQUEST_METHOD'] inside the 'service' method? Trying to figure this out
as we speak...
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Magnus Holm judo...@gmail.comwrote:
I find extending Camping apps to be quite easy, since it's all classes
and modules, but I can understand that extending Camping itself can be
difficult/weird. That said, I think a lot can be solved by defining
#included and #extended. It would be great if you could tell us a bit
exactly the problems you faced. We still have 1k left.
Don't hurry, though. Let's get 2.0 out first.
// Magnus Holm
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 16:07, Matt Zukowski m...@roughest.netwrote:
I actually have a reststop app up and running fine with Camping 2.0
(check out Taskr at http://github.com/zuk/taskr). Tthe catch is that
it's a version of 2.0 that I forked about this time last year, and
looking
at the github graph, Magnus has committed a whole slew of changes since
then. So whatever broke Reststop must have been committed in the last 10
months or so.
To be honest over the last year I've mostly switched form Camping to
Sinatra (and lately to Node.js, which is really really cool by the
way). The
problem with Camping, for me, is that trying to extend it is a
nightmare. I
learned this the hard way while writing Reststop and Picnic.
Anyway I have a bit of time right now, so since there seems to be
some interest, I'll pull down the latest version of Camping and see if
I can
make it work with Reststop. I should also move Reststop to github while
I'm
at it.
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Philippe Monnet
r...@monnet-usa.com wrote:
Hi David,
I had played with RESTstop on the old Camping maybe six months ago.
I have now started to take a look at what the issues are about.
So far I have found a few things like:
In reststop.rb:
- the service method needs to retrieve the REQUEST_METHOD using
@env['REQUEST_METHOD']
-the condition on the if statement on the last m.capture line of
the render method needs to be adjusted (not sure what a[0] should be
replaced with. So far I have temporarily replaced the line by:
s = m.capture{send(:layout){s}} if m.respond_to?(:layout)
In the blog.rb example
- the version number for camping needs to be updated
- require 'camping/db' should be removed since now obsolete
- require 'markaby' needs to be added
So far I can bring up the app in a browser, login, add a post.
But if I use Restr I can only do a GET. The PUT currently fails with
a 401. I will continue to try figuring it out over the next week or so.
It would be great if the initial author could help us out.
Philippe
On 3/12/2010 8:04 AM, David Susco wrote:
Has anyone
