Re: What now?

2010-03-24 Thread Philippe Monnet
Having a new official release would be great especially since Sinatra published their 1.0 release yesterday. ;-) The new Rubyforge page would be nice but wouldn't a more marketing-centric site help increase adoption? On 3/23/2010 9:58 AM, Magnus Holm wrote: Indeed, but for now I think

Re: What now?

2010-03-23 Thread Magnus Holm
Indeed, but for now I think http://stuff.judofyr.net/camping-docs/ (or, the URL would actually be camping.rubyforge.org when released) would be enough. I think we're pretty much ready for a release. If you'd like, I could mark HEAD as 2.0.rc1 and push it out to Gemcutter. Then you guys who have

Re: What now?

2010-03-22 Thread Philippe Monnet
I like the idea of the site being built on Camping and combining mini-apps and static content all integrated with jQuery for example. I am currently running two Camping 2.0 apps on Heroku and they work great. Hosting on Heroku would be also be convenient because of the ability to add Git

Re: What now?

2010-03-21 Thread Philippe Monnet
I was wondering how we can help with next steps? I keep seeing all the attention going to the Sinatra framework (and Rails of course) and would love to help more with promoting Camping. It would be great if one of our web designer / Camping friend could help create a catchy visual for the

Re: What now?

2010-03-21 Thread Dave Everitt
Hi Philippe I am one of those Camping friends (although I've been too busy with clients just lately to do much). Although I just posted links to your Camping 'add-ons' to the wiki :-) I agree about Sinatra - from curiosity I've even dabbled with it myself (shame!), although it is nice

Re: What now?

2009-10-20 Thread Dave Everitt
okay - which of the proposed domains works best for you? - Dave Or better, get good search engine results without gaming the system, and just get people to link to it -- go talk it up, blog it up, and write some awesome stuff and post it! I'll certainly be linking to it from my blog.

Re: What now?

2009-10-20 Thread Dave Everitt
we have this wonderful tight knit little community at the moment which would be utterly obliterated by fame. See rubyonrails for details about why fame sucks. LOL! Good point! Magnus - great cartoon! More!! Okay, we don't need SEO :-) What motivation is there to be widely popular? In

Re: What now?

2009-10-20 Thread Matt Bunday
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 3:59 AM, Dave Everitt dever...@innotts.co.uk wrote: Okay, we don't need SEO :-) Regardless, it's not my impression that the domain name plays much role at all in Google's algorithm. After all, domain squatters nearly never show up on the first page of results, despite

Re: What now?

2009-10-20 Thread Dave Everitt
Okay, we don't need SEO :-) Regardless, it's not my impression that the domain name plays much role at all in Google's algorithm. After all, domain squatters nearly never show up on the first page of results, despite that most of the squatted domains are seen as valuable keyword wise. To

Re: What now?

2009-10-20 Thread Matt Bunday
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Dave Everitt dever...@innotts.co.uk wrote: keywords in the domain do help - I'm pretty sure spam is filtered by other means too - like hiding text, too much repetition, 'spam-like' terms. As well as inbound links (which I reckon won't be a problem), in my

Re: What now?

2009-10-20 Thread Dave Everitt
My partnership has VPS Dallas (Ubuntu) and London (Debian) servers from Rimuhosting. We're about to replace the former with a more updated system, so that could be an option, depending on where the most visitors are likely to come from. The London server has faster access for UK/European

Re: What now?

2009-10-20 Thread Jenna Fox
I really doubt we need something of that scale. A shared hosting account with passenger support would be fine and dandy for now. On 21/10/2009, at 8:08 AM, Dave Everitt wrote: My partnership has VPS Dallas (Ubuntu) and London (Debian) servers from Rimuhosting. We're about to replace the

Re: What now?

2009-10-19 Thread Dave Everitt
nice idea with the .ru = Ruby, although still doubtful that 'why' and 'went' are good for SEO (BTW you did mean 'camping', not 'caping' didn't you :-). I reckon: 2 domains, one obviously SEO-optimised (containing 'ruby, camping, framework'), forwarding to another memorable one we all like

Re: What now?

2009-10-19 Thread Julik Tarkhanov
On 19 Oct 2009, at 14:27, Dave Everitt wrote: nice idea with the .ru = Ruby, although still doubtful that 'why' and 'went' are good for SEO (BTW you did mean 'camping', not 'caping' didn't you :-). Registering domains in Russia is a bit risky IMO. -- Julik Tarkhanov m...@julik.nl

Re: What now?

2009-10-19 Thread Aria Stewart
On Oct 19, 2009, at 6:27 AM, Dave Everitt wrote: nice idea with the .ru = Ruby, although still doubtful that 'why' and 'went' are good for SEO (BTW you did mean 'camping', not 'caping' didn't you :-). I reckon: 2 domains, one obviously SEO-optimised (containing 'ruby, camping,

Re: What now?

2009-10-19 Thread Jenna Fox
Yeah, and besides, camping is not a business, it is an open source project of much niftiness. We do not need SEO, it does in fact not especially effect us how many people use our framework, except that we have this wonderful tight knit little community at the moment which would be utterly

Re: What now?

2009-10-19 Thread Magnus Holm
http://imgur.com/7gpQ4.png //Magnus Holm On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 22:44, Jenna Fox bluebe...@creativepony.com wrote: Yeah, and besides, camping is not a business, it is an open source project of much niftiness. We do not need SEO, it does in fact not especially effect us how many people use

Re: What now?

2009-10-19 Thread John Beppu
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Julik Tarkhanov julian.tarkha...@gmail.com wrote: On 19 Oct 2009, at 14:27, Dave Everitt wrote: nice idea with the .ru = Ruby, although still doubtful that 'why' and 'went' are good for SEO (BTW you did mean 'camping', not 'caping' didn't you :-).

Re: What now?

2009-10-19 Thread Christian Carter
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 5:06 PM, John Beppu john.be...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Julik Tarkhanov julian.tarkha...@gmail.com wrote: On 19 Oct 2009, at 14:27, Dave Everitt wrote: nice idea with the .ru = Ruby, although still doubtful that 'why' and 'went' are

Re: What now?

2009-10-19 Thread zimbatm
Regarding SEO, isn't it enough to have some links from the ruby community pointing to the camping homepage to have it on top-10 of ruby camping search results ? ___ Camping-list mailing list Camping-list@rubyforge.org

Re: What now?

2009-10-19 Thread zimbatm
In any case, I just secured whywentcamping.com. For now it redirects to camping.rubyforge.com ___ Camping-list mailing list Camping-list@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list

Re: What now?

2009-10-19 Thread Jenna Fox
Excellent news with the domain. :) I don't understand why we should care about search positioning. The site exists to give us users information. How do these sorts of frameworks gain popularity? word of mouth. Our website doesn't need to sell anything because more users is simply a burden

Re: What now?

2009-10-18 Thread Dave Everitt
Agreed, but ideally it would be great to have it updated as the dead links (redhanded.hobix.com, code.whytheluckystiff.net etc.) give the impression that Camping is neglected (also with the CHANGELOG frozen at 1.5 in 2006), and that's a bit sad for such a nice little framework! Perhaps the

Re: What now?

2009-10-18 Thread Julik Tarkhanov
On 18 Oct 2009, at 12:03, Dave Everitt wrote: Perhaps the community could list and collate the necessary changes/ updates on each page, then updating could be shared (I'd be more than willing to do updates)? A new site shared over githubz would be nice. -- Julik Tarkhanov m...@julik.nl

Re: What now?

2009-10-18 Thread Philippe Monnet
I like the idea of updating the rubyforge site, but having a main site to publicize Camping would be a nice addition and would have the benefit of being easier for people to find or remember (especially if they are new to Ruby). I really like: * rubycamping.com *

Re: What now?

2009-10-18 Thread John Beppu
I like the domain whywentcamping.com . ___ Camping-list mailing list Camping-list@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list

Re: What now?

2009-10-18 Thread Dave Everitt
@Philippe: Agreed - if Camping is going to get any mindshare it does need a portal one-stop site. BTW rubyoncamping - ROC (as in 'solid as a...' :-? ) So... .com/org/net(all?) domain options (bearing in mind SEO- friendliness and availability) - [ ] = add a score out of 10: rubycamping.com

Re: What now?

2009-10-18 Thread zimbatm
+1 for whywentcamping.com ___ Camping-list mailing list Camping-list@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list

Re: What now?

2009-10-18 Thread Peter Retief
I need to know if _why is OK, I need a sign? 2009/10/18 zimbatm zimb...@oree.ch: +1 for whywentcamping.com ___ Camping-list mailing list Camping-list@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list

Re: What now?

2009-10-18 Thread Christian Carter
Another for whywentcamping.com We shouldn't try and make ourselves look like ROR, Camping is it's own crazy system. Christian Carter 612.327.5292 On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 3:53 PM, zimbatm zimb...@oree.ch wrote: +1 for whywentcamping.com ___

Re: What now?

2009-10-18 Thread Jenna Fox
I also like whywentcamping.com :) As for a sign, do not fret, for he is at a better place now, where there are plentiful tasty chickpea burgers, and friends and family. He just needed to not be _why for a while. We don't know how long, or for what reason, but he is certainly fine. :)

Re: What now?

2009-10-18 Thread Philippe Monnet
rubycamping.com [9] campingframework.com [2] rubyoncamping.com [10] whywentcamping.com [1] (cute but I wonder if people may skip the site link by thinking it has nothing to do with Ruby) I feel that having the word Ruby in the name would be good for SEO and more likely to incite people not

Re: What now?

2009-10-18 Thread Dave Everitt
Below: collated results for a Camping domain name, have added my prefs and all others. Perhaps we can increment/decrement these scores from now on to get a final result ;-) [Philippe]: I feel that having the word Ruby in the name would be good for SEO and more likely to incite people not

Re: What now?

2009-10-18 Thread Jenna Fox
There is the option of whywentcaping.ru, though it is at a cost of $29.99 US. I don't know, I really like those sorts of domains that use the [cc]TLD as a part of the name, though sadly, http:// whywentcampi.ng/ seems to already be taken (though unused... and.. nigerian..). I like .net

Re: What now?

2009-10-15 Thread John Turner
2009/9/13 Dave Everitt dever...@innotts.co.uk: or could they be elsewhere? And which of the many, many finds out there when you search e.g. 'Camping Ruby' are 1.9/2.0 relevant? Etc. Ummm [thinks]... rubycamping.com, campingruby.com, campingframework.com or (my favourite) camping3k.com/org/net

Re: What now?

2009-10-15 Thread Dave Everitt
Nice alternative... all that's needed is a chosen domain, a friendly host and to share out the webmastering :-) With a little commitment from a couple of people, I'd provide the hosting and domain. or could they be elsewhere? And which of the many, many finds out there when you search

Re: What now?

2009-10-15 Thread Matt Bunday
I'm new to Camping (played around with some small apps, but nothing impressive), but I'd be more than happy to be webmaster. If I could get someone to work with, that'd be even better, of course. On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:48 AM, Dave Everitt dever...@innotts.co.uk wrote: Nice alternative... all

Re: What now?

2009-10-15 Thread Dave Everitt
Hi Matt - great, that's a start. One more person and we're there! - Dave I'm new to Camping (played around with some small apps, but nothing impressive), but I'd be more than happy to be webmaster. If I could get someone to work with, that'd be even better, of course. Nice alternative... all

Re: What now?

2009-09-13 Thread Dave Everitt
Just in case anyone comes to visit and doesn't realise Camping has it's own repo at Github (the chosen option in this thread, thanks to Magnus) here's the URL: http://github.com/camping/camping/ To promote Camping (e.g. I just mailed ruby-toolbox.com to suggest adding it), I usually point

Re: What now?

2009-08-28 Thread zimbatm
+1 for camping/camping at github . Also, why not use the github pages to host the camping website ___ Camping-list mailing list Camping-list@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list

Re: What now?

2009-08-21 Thread Dave Everitt
I'm for this option: camping/camping - Create a new user. ___ Camping-list mailing list Camping-list@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list

Re: What now?

2009-08-21 Thread Jeremy McAnally
I'm for this option: camping/camping - Create a new user. Yup I like that option, too. --Jeremy -- http://jeremymcanally.com/ http://entp.com/ http://omgbloglol.com My books: http://manning.com/mcanally/ http://humblelittlerubybook.com/ (FREE!)