Re: [Carbon-dev] Qpid Frustration

2011-04-01 Thread Dimuthu Leelarathne
Hi, On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Pradeep Fernando prad...@wso2.com wrote: +1 agreed with danushka. Adding default configuration is not the solution for what dimuthu has encountered. In this case dimuthu is responsible for making the stratos distribution. Anybody working on wso2 product

Re: [Carbon-dev] Qpid Frustration

2011-04-01 Thread Dimuthu Leelarathne
Hi On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Danushka Menikkumbura danus...@wso2.comwrote: But I think we have a fundamental issue in the way we build products. We manually copy stuff (mostly configuration files) from the generated carbon distribution to the product pack we build. As I learned from

Re: [Carbon-dev] Qpid Frustration

2011-04-01 Thread Pradeep Fernando
hi, On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Dimuthu Leelarathne dimut...@wso2.com wrote: Hi, On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Pradeep Fernando prad...@wso2.com wrote: +1 agreed with danushka. Adding default configuration is not the solution for what dimuthu has encountered. In this case dimuthu is

Re: [Carbon-dev] Qpid Frustration

2011-04-01 Thread Manjula Rathnayake
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Dimuthu Leelarathne dimut...@wso2.comwrote: Hi, On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Pradeep Fernando prad...@wso2.comwrote: +1 agreed with danushka. Adding default configuration is not the solution for what dimuthu has encountered. In this case dimuthu is

Re: [Carbon-dev] Qpid Frustration

2011-04-01 Thread Danushka Menikkumbura
As I believe adding configuration files into a product is the responsibility of the product team. Not yours. In fact what we do is to add an entry into the bin.xml to copy qpid configuration files into the product distribution from the carbon core distribution that is built in the middle (which is

Re: [Carbon-dev] Qpid Frustration

2011-04-01 Thread Manjula Rathnayake
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Manjula Rathnayake manju...@wso2.comwrote: On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Dimuthu Leelarathne dimut...@wso2.comwrote: Hi, On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Pradeep Fernando prad...@wso2.comwrote: +1 agreed with danushka. Adding default configuration is

Re: [Carbon-dev] Qpid Frustration

2011-04-01 Thread Srinath Perera
Hi Danushka, We have to agree what is the unit of sharing in our platform. I am think that is the component, and if so, adding the component should be good enough to install something. If feature is the unit of sharing, what you say do make sense. --Srinath On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 10:47 AM,

Re: [Carbon-dev] Qpid Frustration

2011-04-01 Thread Sumedha Rubasinghe
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Danushka Menikkumbura danus...@wso2.comwrote: As I believe adding configuration files into a product is the responsibility of the product team. Not yours. Dhanushka, I don't understand your statement. What we build is small pieces of a platform. The products

Re: [Carbon-dev] Qpid Frustration

2011-04-01 Thread Danushka Menikkumbura
As I believe adding configuration files into a product is the responsibility of the product team. Not yours. Sumedha, Let me rephrase. You do not have to do anything extra to get Qpid to work in your product. In fact it is installable as a feature. What I meant was when we pack our

Re: [Carbon-dev] Qpid Frustration

2011-03-31 Thread Paul Fremantle
Has anyone tested adding Qpid using p2 as a feature into a product that doesn't have it? Does that work? Paul On 31 March 2011 06:59, Tharindu Mathew thari...@wso2.com wrote: I updated bam and built and I believe this is fixed now. All qpid configs are in place, so we are good. Also, as I

Re: [Carbon-dev] Qpid Frustration

2011-03-31 Thread Pradeep Fernando
hi, it is working fine when it is installed as a feature. (they copu the conf files using p2.inf). feature manager and the feature installation during the product building uses the same strategy. --Pradeep ___ Carbon-dev mailing list

Re: [Carbon-dev] Qpid Frustration

2011-03-31 Thread Paul Fremantle
Is there a way to hard-code defaults that the code uses when it can't find the conf files? I know a lot of systems do that (even Axis2 if I remember correctly). We could print a line to INFO log saying we are using built in defaults. Paul On 31 March 2011 07:25, Pradeep Fernando prad...@wso2.com

Re: [Carbon-dev] Qpid Frustration

2011-03-31 Thread Sameera Jayasoma
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Paul Fremantle p...@wso2.com wrote: Is there a way to hard-code defaults that the code uses when it can't find the conf files? I know a lot of systems do that (even Axis2 if I remember correctly). We could print a line to INFO log saying we are using built in

Re: [Carbon-dev] Qpid Frustration

2011-03-31 Thread Afkham Azeez
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Paul Fremantle p...@wso2.com wrote: Is there a way to hard-code defaults that the code uses when it can't find the conf files? I know a lot of systems do that (even Axis2 if I remember correctly). We could print a line to INFO log saying we are using built in

Re: [Carbon-dev] Qpid Frustration

2011-03-31 Thread Danushka Menikkumbura
a) it is your responsibility! b) we have to fix this. Installing means adding the component, nothing else. OK. Let me give you an example. If you use an installer that comes with a piece of software to install it, you do not have to worry about copying libraries or configuration files,

Re: [Carbon-dev] Qpid Frustration

2011-03-31 Thread Pradeep Fernando
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Danushka Menikkumbura danus...@wso2.com wrote: a) it is your responsibility! b) we have to fix this. Installing means adding the component, nothing else. OK. Let me give you an example. If you use an installer that comes with a piece of software to install

[Carbon-dev] Qpid Frustration

2011-03-30 Thread Dimuthu Leelarathne
Hi, I am having a really hard time coping with Qpid instability. I did an svn up yesterday and build everything. Since BAM didn't start up, I did an svn up of all Qpid related artifacts and build them again. But still BAM doesn't start up because of Qpid config files ! #$%$^%^%$#% Here are

Re: [Carbon-dev] Qpid Frustration

2011-03-30 Thread Afkham Azeez
Danushka or whoever is responsible for creating these issues, please fix this asap. We don't want to see this tomorrow morning ! On Mar 30, 2011 10:39 PM, Dimuthu Leelarathne dimut...@wso2.com wrote: Hi, I am having a really hard time coping with Qpid instability. I did an svn up yesterday and

Re: [Carbon-dev] Qpid Frustration

2011-03-30 Thread Tharindu Mathew
Even though qpid files are not present BAM starts up. [2011-03-30 22:44:47,554] INFO {org.wso2.carbon.core.transports.http.HttpsTransportListener} - HTTPS port : 9443 [2011-03-30 22:44:47,555] INFO {org.wso2.carbon.core.transports.http.HttpTransportListener} - HTTP port: 9763

Re: [Carbon-dev] Qpid Frustration

2011-03-30 Thread Dimuthu Leelarathne
Hi, As Manjula pointed out (offline) I had to build features/event as well. Now the server starts. tx, dimuthu On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Tharindu Mathew thari...@wso2.com wrote: Even though qpid files are not present BAM starts up. [2011-03-30 22:44:47,554] INFO

Re: [Carbon-dev] Qpid Frustration

2011-03-30 Thread Danushka Menikkumbura
The event team has repeatedly pointed out that qpid gets installed as a result of installing event. No product does use qpid alone as far as I know. Even in that case it is your responsibility to install what you need. Also you guys not reading mails is your problem. I do not want to pay the price

Re: [Carbon-dev] Qpid Frustration

2011-03-30 Thread Dimuthu Leelarathne
Hi, On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:46 PM, Danushka Menikkumbura danus...@wso2.comwrote: The event team has repeatedly pointed out that qpid gets installed as a result of installing event. No product does use qpid alone as far as I know. Even in that case it is your responsibility to install what

Re: [Carbon-dev] Qpid Frustration

2011-03-30 Thread Samisa Abeysinghe
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:46 PM, Danushka Menikkumbura danus...@wso2.comwrote: The event team has repeatedly pointed out that qpid gets installed as a result of installing event. No product does use qpid alone as far as I know. Even in that case it is your responsibility to install what you

Re: [Carbon-dev] Qpid Frustration

2011-03-30 Thread Danushka Menikkumbura
Hi Samisa, I hope your meant self-containing configuration files. I tried that but failed as the root configuration file uses two other files in it which are compiled by the configuration builder when the configuration context is built. This was fixed across products. The issue was not building

Re: [Carbon-dev] Qpid Frustration

2011-03-30 Thread Danushka Menikkumbura
copes qpid configuration files into the product. I meant to say qpid libs. Thanks, Danushka ___ Carbon-dev mailing list Carbon-dev@wso2.org http://mail.wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/carbon-dev

Re: [Carbon-dev] Qpid Frustration

2011-03-30 Thread Samisa Abeysinghe
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 6:52 AM, Danushka Menikkumbura danus...@wso2.comwrote: Hi Samisa, I hope your meant self-containing configuration files. I tried that but failed as the root configuration file uses two other files in it which are compiled by the configuration builder when the

Re: [Carbon-dev] Qpid Frustration

2011-03-30 Thread Srinath Perera
Danushka, to our carbon story to hold we have to be able to compose components. That means defaults should be right, and Qpid MUST work out of the box (whether it is added) directly, through eventing, or indirectly by something else. So a) it is your responsibility! b) we have to fix this.

Re: [Carbon-dev] Qpid Frustration

2011-03-30 Thread Tharindu Mathew
I updated bam and built and I believe this is fixed now. All qpid configs are in place, so we are good. Also, as I showed you in my earlier mail, even if qpid can't find the configs the server does not fail, which is the proper thing that should happen. It would be good if everyone else also see