Re: [caret-users] nifti images

2006-11-14 Thread Mateus Joffily

Hi Donna,

Thanks for your help. I am sending you two histograms of 3D_resliced.nii:
(1) histogram_resliced_1.jpg is the same histogram you already sent to me;
(2) histogram_resliced_2.jpg is the histogram of 3D_resliced.nii after 
resampling at 1x1x1mm with Caret.


We can see that the spikes disapear in (2). It looks like much closer to 
the histograms described in your 'Peak Tweaking' document. As I don't 
have much experience with image segmentation, I was wondering if there 
was any problem with my images. I am glad to know that they look fine 
for you.


May be the problem is the one pointed by Simon. If this is the case, 
adjusting the histogram bins could minimize the effect. Do we have 
control over the histogram bins with Caret interface?


Thanks,
Mateus



Dierker wrote:


Hi Mateus,

I can't address your original problem with the NIfTI 
orientation/rotation, but I did have a look at your volumes, and this 
statement confuses me:


The histogram of my images (3D_original.nii and 3D_resliced.nii) 
shows several noisy sharp peaks. 


The attached captures show the histograms of 3D_original.nii 
(histogram_orig.jpg) and 3D_resliced.nii (histogram_resliced.jpg).  
The original has smoother looking peaks, but both have discernible 
gray and white matter peaks.  Neither look particularly bothersome.


Could you be more clear about what concerns you?

On 11/13/2006 05:43 AM, Mateus Joffily wrote:


John,

May I profit from the fact that I have already uploaded my images to 
ask you one more question about them? The histogram of my images 
(3D_original.nii and 3D_resliced.nii) shows several noisy sharp 
peaks. Do you know what do they mean? I know that, if I reslice the 
3D_resliced.nii to 1x1x1mm voxels size with Caret, they disappear. 
Thanks.


Mateus

John Harwell wrote:


Hi Mateus,

Can you upload the nifti volume that is not displayed correctly in  
Caret at http://pulvinar.wustl.edu/cgi-bin/upload.cgi;.  Also, can  
you capture and upload an image of the volume displayed correctly 
in  SPM5 so that I know how it should appear.


After uploading the files, please email me the names of the files.   
It may be a few days before I can look into this problem.


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John Harwell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
314-362-3467

Department of Anatomy and Neurobiology
Washington University School of Medicine
660 S. Euclid Ave.Box 8108
St. Louis, MO 63110   USA

On Nov 10, 2006, at 9:42 AM, Mateus Joffily wrote:


Hi,

I am having some trouble to load nifti images with caret5. The  
problem is the following:


1) When I try to load an image that has a rotation specified in 
the  header, Caret seems not to apply it properly. The displayed 
image  shows a strange orientation and the voxels size is wrong.


2) However, when the same image is resliced and no rotation is  
specified in its header, Caret displays the image correctly, the  
voxels size are correct and the image origin is also correctly  
located.


Those same images, (1) and (2), are both correctly displayed with  
SPM5.


The images extension is .nii, so I don't think this should be a  
problem related to image format interpretation (like interpreting  
nifti images as analyze and ignoring part of the header information).


Does anyone else has experienced this problem?  Thanks for your help.

Mateus
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inline: histogram_resliced_1.jpginline: histogram_resliced_2.jpg

Re: [caret-users] nifti images

2006-11-14 Thread John Harwell

Hi Mateus,

I think I have the problem corrected and here is how 3D_original.nii  
appears in Caret.  If the images look good to you let me know which  
operating system you are using and I will make an update available  
for you to download.  This problem only occurred if the X-axis was  
not left/right, the Y-axis was not posterior/anterior, or the Z-axis  
not inferior/superior.


inline: pastedGraphic.tiff

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John Harwell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
314-362-3467

Department of Anatomy and Neurobiology
Washington University School of Medicine
660 S. Euclid Ave.Box 8108
St. Louis, MO 63110   USA

On Nov 13, 2006, at 3:33 AM, Mateus Joffily wrote:


Hi John,

I uploaded four files in Caret, their names are:

1) 3D_original.nii : original volume that doesn't display correctly  
in Caret (case 1 described in my previous message)

2) 3D_original_spm5.pdf : capture of 3D_original.nii display in spm5
1) 3D_resliced.nii : same original volume but resliced (case 2  
described in my previous message)

1) 3D_resliced_spm5.pdf : capture of 3D_resliced.nii display in spm5

Thank you very much.

Mateus


John Harwell wrote:


Hi Mateus,

Can you upload the nifti volume that is not displayed correctly  
in  Caret at http://pulvinar.wustl.edu/cgi-bin/upload.cgi;.   
Also, can  you capture and upload an image of the volume displayed  
correctly in  SPM5 so that I know how it should appear.


After uploading the files, please email me the names of the  
files.   It may be a few days before I can look into this problem.


--
John Harwell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
314-362-3467

Department of Anatomy and Neurobiology
Washington University School of Medicine
660 S. Euclid Ave.Box 8108
St. Louis, MO 63110   USA

On Nov 10, 2006, at 9:42 AM, Mateus Joffily wrote:


Hi,

I am having some trouble to load nifti images with caret5. The   
problem is the following:


1) When I try to load an image that has a rotation specified in  
the  header, Caret seems not to apply it properly. The displayed  
image  shows a strange orientation and the voxels size is wrong.


2) However, when the same image is resliced and no rotation is   
specified in its header, Caret displays the image correctly, the   
voxels size are correct and the image origin is also correctly   
located.


Those same images, (1) and (2), are both correctly displayed  
with  SPM5.


The images extension is .nii, so I don't think this should be a   
problem related to image format interpretation (like  
interpreting  nifti images as analyze and ignoring part of the  
header information).


Does anyone else has experienced this problem?  Thanks for your  
help.


Mateus
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